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    Account No. 1

    HBOS – MASTERCARD CREDIT CARD

    Type of account: BOS CREDIT CARD
    Date commenced:- MARCH 1996
    Approx balance:- £11,500
    Last full payment paid:- 2009
    Arrangement or not paying: Had an arrangement with Apex Credit Management for reduced payments in Dec 2008 for approx 6 months

    Status:- No Default on Experian – Never received a Default Notice or Termination Letter, I would say approx going by statements default approx March 2008.

    Account owner:- Apex Credit Management – Assigned October 2008

    2008
    March - Got into financial difficulty due to giving up work to look after Hubby. Sent umpteen letters and phone calls to BOS to try an come to some arrangement, they wouldn’t listen (Sound familiar) – NO JOY.
    October - Received Letter of Assignment from Apex and BOS – Debt Sold to Apex Credit Management.
    Oct 2008/April 2009 – Paid reduce monthly installments to Apex.

    2009
    May – Sent CCA Request to Apex.
    September Received set of T & C’s from Apex.
    October – Replied to Apex advising them CCA request in Dispute.
    November – Received CCA/Application Form.
    December–Sent In Dispute Letter to Apex.
    December –Receivedletter fromApex put hold on account.

    2010
    January – Received another copy of CCA/Application for & T & C’s exact same as before.
    January - Sent Account In Dispute Letter.
    January –Received letter from Apex, they are satisfied they have addressed all issues Account No Longer In Dispute.
    February - Received Letter from Apex to contact them.
    March-Sent letter reiterating Account In Dispute.
    March -Received Threat of Action Letter.
    April – Received Debtors Notice threatening Legal Action.
    April - Received Letter from Pinnacle Legal Recoveries on behalf of Apex keen to discuss payment, reduce settlement figure.
    April -Sent letter to Pinnacle to advise them Account in Dispute.
    May - Received letter from Pinnacle ‘NOTICE OF LEGAL ACTION’.
    May - Received from Pinnacle ‘LETTER BEFORE ACTION’.
    May - Received letter from Apex Full payment within 72 hours or else. (Ignored)
    November -Received Letter from Apex Legal Action to commence, threat of Charging Order. (Ignored)

    November - Received letter from Pinnacle legal action to commence.
    November -Sent letter welcoming legal action.
    February- Received letter from Apex ‘PROTECT YOUR CREDIT RATING’ (Too LATE)

    2012
    February - Sent letter advising of Hubby’s Medical circumstances.
    March - Received letter from Apex they have sent for another copy of the CCA to BOS to check queries and require documentation of Hubbys medical condition.

    March - Sent CCA to Niddy for checking.....And NIDDY SAYS....
    April - Sent Missing Prescribed T & C to APex as advised by Niddy.
    April - Received letter from APex stating all diferent section so fCCA Act and requesting I contact them to pay (But as you can see Niddy deemed UE so guess who won't be contacting them - Letter Ignored on Niddy's advice)

    2013
    July - Recieved letter from Apex stating they have written on numerous occaions and unfortunately I have not replied (all lies, sent letter Niddy complied to thier last letter)
    July - Sent letter referring them to previous letters amd say no further correspondence will take place with Apeex until they acknowledge all points in previous letters. (They receieved letter 18/7/13)
    July - Received letter dated 18/7/13 same day they received above letter from me. Again their letter satting Tried to contact us and not been able to talk to us (lies) We have responsibilty to pay outstanding balance, giving us 14 days to resolve matter.
    Last edited by Miss Muddled; 22 July 2013, 09:23. Reason: Updated

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    Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

    Account No. 2

    BOS – OVERDRAFT

    Type of account: BOS OVERDRAFT
    Date commenced:- ????
    Approx balance:- £3,000
    Last full payment paid:- November 2009
    Arrangement or not paying:– Not Paying

    Status:- DEFAULT NOTICE FEBRUARY 2009 (TERMINATED ACCOUNT 16 DAYS EARLY OF REMEDY DATE)

    Account owner:- Wescot Credit Services

    2008
    November – Received letter from BOS withdrawing our Overdraft
    December - Received 4 more letters demanding repayment of overdraft

    2009
    January - Received letter demanding repayment.
    February - Received Default Notice - Remedy 21st March 2009.
    March - Received Termination Notice 16 days early.
    March - Received letter from Albion Collections Demanding Payment.
    April - Received Letter from Albion Collections “Call Us”.
    April - Received letter from Albion Collections “Contact Us”.
    May - Received Letter from Albion Collection “Further Action”
    June - Received Letter Blair Oliver Scott “Door step threat”Court Action.
    June - Made arrangement to pay £50 per month.
    November – Couldn’t keep up payments (Demand letter from Blair Oliver Scott.

    2010
    Febrauary - Received Doorstep threat Letter
    March - Received Notice of Intended Court Action letter.
    April - Replied to Blair Oliver Scott advising them of Default/Termination fault.
    April - Received Letter from Robinson Way “Formal Demand for Payment”
    April - Replied advising Bad Default/Termination.
    April - Received Letter Rob Way “Immediate Action Required”
    May - Received letter Rob Way Account on Hold.
    May - Received letter Rob Way to contact BOS with dispute.
    July - Received letter Rob Way “House Visit Threat”
    August - Received letter Rob Way “Court Action Threat”
    August - Received Letter from Iqor “Demanding full payment”.
    August - Replied advising Iqor of Bad Default/Termination.
    October - Received letter from Geoffrey Park Bourne Sols demanding full payment.
    October - Replied to GPB Sols Bad Default/Termination.
    December - Received letter from Moorcroft “Intended Litigation”
    December - Replied to Moorcroft “Bad Default/Termination”.
    December - Sent Moorcroft “Hasselment letter”.
    December - Received letter from Moorcroft “Account on Hold”

    2011
    January - Received letter from Moorcroft “Contact BOS” (Ignored)
    January - Received Letter form Moorcroft “Possible Litigation”
    January - Received letter from Moorcroft “Contact BOS” (Ignored)
    February - Received letter from Moorcroft “Doorstep Threat/Payment Plan”
    February - Received letter from Moorcroft “Account on Hold”

    2012
    February - Received Notice of Assignment letter from BOS and Wescot
    February - Replied to Wescot with CCA request.
    April - Still no reply from Wescot regarding my CCA request in February (Hopefully haven't spoken to soon!!!)
    May: Spoken too soon, letter from Wescot arrived yesterday in reply to my CCA request in Febrruary, saying they have contacted HBOS for requested information.
    Last edited by Miss Muddled; 26 February 2014, 12:00. Reason: Updating

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    • #3
      Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

      Account No. 3

      HBOS – PREFERENCE ACCOUNT


      Type of account: BOS PREFERENCE ACCOUNT
      Date commenced:- MARCH 1996

      Approx balance: - £12,000

      Last full payment paid:- June2009

      Arrangement or not payingNot Paying

      Status:- Default Remedy Date 14/9/2009 - Terminated 11/9/2009.(3 Days Early)No Default on Experian Credit Record

      Account owner: - 1st Credit Returned to Account to HBOS

      NIDDY SAYS TOTALLY

      2012
      March - With Niddy's expertise help 1st Credit returned this account back to HBOS, now that tells us a story....Completely UE.
      April - All quiet on the western front no Contact from HBOS as yet (Hopefully not spoke to soon!!)
      Last edited by Miss Muddled; 5 May 2012, 09:05.

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      • #4
        Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

        Account No. 4

        HBOS – VISA CREDIT CARD

        Type of account:BOS CREDIT CARD

        Date commenced:-MARCH 1996

        Approx balance: - £10,000

        Last full payment paid:- A PPROX MARCH 2009

        Arrangement or not paying – NOT PAYING

        Status:-According to Experian 8/6/2009 Never received a Default Notice or Termination Letter, I.

        Account owner: -1st Credit – Returned Account HBOS



        NIDDY SAYS TOTALLY

        2012
        March -
        With Niddy's expertise help 1st Credit returned this account back to HBOS, now that tells us a story....Completely UE.

        April - All quiet on the western front no Contact from HBOS as yet (Hopefully not spoke to soon!!)
        Last edited by Miss Muddled; 5 May 2012, 09:06.

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        • #5
          Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

          Hiya Niddy
          Have sent Mastercard T & C's and last two letters from Apex and Pinnacle.

          Give me shout if you need anything else.

          Cheers

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          • #6
            Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

            Somebody's been busy

            Well done Miss Muddled!!!
            I take it no response from Westclots yet on the OD CCA request?
            Have you done a CCA request on the Halifax Visa CC?
            I have one of those..they can't find the agreement, sadly

            Shep x

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            • #7
              Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

              Originally posted by Shepherdess View Post
              Somebody's been busy

              Well done Miss Muddled!!!
              I take it no response from Westclots yet on the OD CCA request?
              Have you done a CCA request on the Halifax Visa CC?
              I have one of those..they can't find the agreement, sadly

              Shep x
              Good Morning Shep,

              No response from Wesclots as yet. Did a CCA request a few years ago to APex for the CC they sent me an application form with T & C's have sent to Niddy for his expert advice....fingers crossed.

              What a shame they can't find CCA for you..

              Cheers

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              • #8
                Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

                Originally posted by Miss Muddled View Post
                HBOS – MASTERCARD CREDIT CARD

                Account owner:- Apex Credit Management – Assigned October 2008

                2012
                February - Sent letter advising of Hubby’s Medical circumstances.
                March - Received letter from Apex they have sent for another copy of the CCA to BOS to check queries and require documentation of Hubbys medical condition.

                March - Sent CCA to Niddy for checking
                Ok this agreement is half the visa that we just had returned from 1st Credit yet they have different terms - funny if not believeable.

                Point is, send this back to Apex: ---> Our Templates | Unenforceability Templates | CCA Query - Missing Prescribed Terms

                This account (the visa & mastercard) are BOTH 1,000,000% unenforceable



                Why? Easy...

                Look at the agreement - what is the obvious error - look right at the very top? What is this 'page' exactly cos it aint a credit agreement regulated under the CCA1974 that's for sure ergo this is toilet roll right now and no matter what they do they will never be able to enforce this as there are no enforcement rights for such a breach, well there are but we'll get Paul on the case who will batter them into submission.

                Kiss bye bye to that visa and mastercard - they're now dead as far as I am concerned.

                Oh, they also never sent any terms from account inception, only a recon of current terms which don't correspond to the product you have - they're fucked, sorry but that's the only way to describe this.

                Why do you think 1st Credit sold it back to HBOS quick enough?

                As we always say, the devil is in the detail and the moment 1st Credit knew we had them by the balls they sold it back, shame cos now HBOS are left with that predicament

                As for the preference account, this is also 100% UE without seeing any paperwork, they always are as they are best described as a running credit at fixed rate which in essence means they'd need 3 sets of PT's at outset which was never the case so all these preference style accounts that were issued by barclays, cahoot, hbos and M&S are all UE - always.

                Good result for you
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                • #9
                  Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

                  Originally posted by Never-In-Doubt View Post
                  Look at the agreement - what is the obvious error - look right at the very top? What is this 'page' exactly cos it aint a credit agreement regulated under the CCA1974 that's for sure ergo this is toilet roll right now and no matter what they do they will never be able to enforce this
                  here is the proof of their mistake

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                  and here is what it should look like (although this is MBNA)...

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                    • #11
                      Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

                      Originally posted by Never-In-Doubt View Post
                      Ok this agreement is half the visa that we just had returned from 1st Credit yet they have different terms - funny if not believeable.

                      Point is, send this back to Apex: ---> Our Templates | Unenforceability Templates | CCA Query - Missing Prescribed Terms

                      This account (the visa & mastercard) are BOTH 1,000,000% unenforceable



                      Why? Easy...

                      Look at the agreement - what is the obvious error - look right at the very top? What is this 'page' exactly cos it aint a credit agreement regulated under the CCA1974 that's for sure ergo this is toilet roll right now and no matter what they do they will never be able to enforce this as there are no enforcement rights for such a breach, well there are but we'll get Paul on the case who will batter them into submission.

                      Kiss bye bye to that visa and mastercard - they're now dead as far as I am concerned.

                      Oh, they also never sent any terms from account inception, only a recon of current terms which don't correspond to the product you have - they're fucked, sorry but that's the only way to describe this.

                      Why do you think 1st Credit sold it back to HBOS quick enough?

                      As we always say, the devil is in the detail and the moment 1st Credit knew we had them by the balls they sold it back, shame cos now HBOS are left with that predicament

                      As for the preference account, this is also 100% UE without seeing any paperwork, they always are as they are best described as a running credit at fixed rate which in essence means they'd need 3 sets of PT's at outset which was never the case so all these preference style accounts that were issued by barclays, cahoot, hbos and M&S are all UE - always.

                      Good result for you
                      GOOD MORNING NIDDY

                      OMG, OMG, OMG.....pinch me I'm dreaming thats Brilliant News, we couldn't ask for better, this is the best news ever (apart from 1st Credits)your a Star Niddy, what else can we say.

                      Was at hospital most of the day yesterday/night yesterday, didn't have much time to get on here.

                      It's like we have been sent a Guardian Angel, to think that a few weeks ago we could have lost my Hubby to suicide as we thought we would lose our house because creeps like 1st Credit, Apex and other lowlife DCA telling us they could take our house, bankrupt us and such like and worst still, us totally believing them, until you came along Niddy.

                      You are DCA's and Banks etc.. worst nightmare, they have met their match, however to all of us on AAD you are a dream come true, as we were living in a nightmare before you started to kick arse.

                      You can described these agremnets in any form you like, if you say they are fucked then they are fucked....so in other words Apex 1st Credit and HBOS are full of carp.

                      Never, ever would we have known about these errors, as said before your a minefield of Information, a deadly weapon
                      I keep reading the post above I cant believe what I am reading you've not only made our day, it's like our Birthday, Christmas and Lottery (well we wish a lotery win) all at once, it's totally overwhelming.

                      Hubby does not surface till late (due to Meds) can't wait to let him read your post Niddy.....


                      Do you think we should wait until APex sends us another reply when they get, yet another copy of CCA before we send the Missing Prescribed Terms letter or just send right now ?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

                        Originally posted by Shepherdess View Post
                        Good Morning Shep

                        What do you think Shep, can you believe it, absolutely brilliant news. We also have a lot to thank you for, words can never express our gratitude.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

                          Hehe, it's brilliant Miss M. Here's to betterer and betterer nights' sleep for you and Hubby!
                          Me? nahh I just pointed you in the direction of Sir Niddy the Nid...slayer of assorted foes

                          Just glad the French Resistance style rescue mission was worthwhile, LOL.
                          I actually messaged our erstwhile undercover comrade to say "Zeee eagle haz landed"

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                          • #14
                            Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

                            Originally posted by Miss Muddled View Post
                            Do you think we should wait until APex sends us another reply when they get, yet another copy of CCA before we send the Missing Prescribed Terms letter or just send right now ?
                            No don't wait send it.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Miss Muddle's UE Diary

                              Well done,great news. So happy for you

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