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  • ohitsonlyme
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    Re: cabot and recon agreements

    Originally posted by evenlessdopey View Post
    all seems a trifle peculier, can you hang on and hopefully one of our clued up legal eagles will be along.

    have you CCAed them? yes recon of original recd and copy of current terms recon
    date of original card? pre 1999
    timeline of what's been happening to it? Passed to cabot october 2010 bulk centre claim recd from northampton june 2011
    Did you take proper legal advice before you went to court?no I had a cmc draft a defence but it was very poor and I have basically used other forums for help and advice[/COLOR]
    No rush on replies I only went to court today and dont need to request documents till November

    onlyme
    Last edited by ohitsonlyme; 20 October 2011, 19:42. Reason: typos

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  • MrsD
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    Re: cabot and recon agreements

    all seems a trifle peculier, can you hang on and hopefully one of our clued up legal eagles will be along.

    have you CCAed them?
    date of original card?
    timeline of what's been happening to it?
    Did you take proper legal advice before you went to court?

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  • MINNACK
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    Re: cabot and recon agreements

    if it was me i would complain about the judge and this rather odd behaviour

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  • ohitsonlyme
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    cabot and recon agreements

    Let battle begin!!

    Just back from court,for allocation hearing and directions. for a very old peoples bank credit card -no original cca only recon provided
    Before going in young guy solicitor or trainee before bar trys it on with me( A bit of a smarmy get if he is reading lol) to tell me that carey is applicable and they dont have to provide the original documents, this was a bulk centre claim and he also told me that PD 16.7. does not apply because of this!!quoting some other rule about it going through the bulk centre
    He also trys to do a deal with me to capitulate and make an arrangement with him as my case is fatally flawed whilst at the same time admitting that the agreement is unenforcable which means in his opinion on mcguffick that they can get a CCJ but not enforce it.I told him I didnt want to talk but would listen and agreed to let the judge make her mind up.

    The lady judge was very pleasant although it seemed to me that she didnt know consumer law that well and the claimant kept prompting that the recon is acceptable.I had recently spotted that the default notice I had recieved was issued whilst the account was in dispute this is acknowledged by a letter that they had not provided my agreement and were still looking for it and dated 6 months after the default notice (dated6th march but only allowing til22 march to pay arrears)
    As the judge was taking more notice of the claimant than me she accepted his argument that a recon needs to be provided and a copy of the default notice despite my best efforts to point her to PD 16.7
    I tried to tell her that this was not a section 78 issue but she was still using that as the basis hence the order to disclose only the recon

    They now have been ordered to disclose a recon of the agreement and the default notice and that a case management hearing is to follow
    The other side asked for a particular judge from the court to reside over the hearing, I thought that was unfair as it is probably pushing things their way but didnt argue the point
    As we were leaving the court room the judge asked the other side to hang back and had a 10-15 minute chat in private,I felt this was abit unusual and challenged young upstart on his way out but he simply implied it was a private conversation and nothing to do with the case

    Where do I go from here??

    onlyme
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