EU referendum: Cameron announces date of vote

[Still Waving]

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Cameron and Osborne behaving like a pair of muggers. Cameron threatening those with pensions and Osborne threatening those on disability benefits. Despicable.

[Pixie]

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Cameron and Osborne behaving like a pair of muggers. Cameron threatening those with pensions and Osborne threatening those on disability benefits. Despicable.

What else would you expect from those two?

[Still Waving]

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I expect you have already seen this -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-ve-voted.html

[nanna58]

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That's scary , the next thing would be European tax code .What was Eddie Izzard on there for.? Sorry but he does my head in .

[nanna58]

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I've been thinking ,. If we vote out wonder if government will do a deal anyway and we'll stay In.

[Phoenix]

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I've been thinking ,. If we vote out wonder if government will do a deal anyway and we'll stay In.

I bet they will - and we will never know the gory details!

He's desperately looking for scare tactics , praying we vote out x

Think you are right, S2M - I am sure Cameron really wants "out" but daren't admit it!

At least we only have just over a week left of all this posturing and stupid scare-mongering!

[nanna58]

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Thank the lord Phee xx

[Still Waving]

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I've been thinking ,. If we vote out wonder if government will do a deal anyway and we'll stay In.

I think what happened in Norway was that the people rejected the EU, but the government went ahead and negotiated the free-market deal which still saddled the Norwegian people with a lot of EU regulation.

It's already been suspected that this government will, in the event of a Brexit vote, still negotiate something which keeps the UK shackled.

[nanna58]

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I expect so SW. I don't like the stuff that is being kept back till after Thursday, unnerving.Osbourne has decide if we come out there will be a 40m black hole from somewhere, Grayling says utter rubbish.

57 mps signed a letter to Osbourne saying that will not back him or any austerity budget , effectively ripping up the Tory manifesto.T Tories finished?

[Still Waving]

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That Osborne is an absolute four-letter-word.

[nightwatch]

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Don't know if any of you have seen this on facebook, an interesting read

Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds.
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently. Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.
I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there.
I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.
Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't. If you think the EU is a good idea,
1/ You haven't read the party manifesto of The European Peoples' Party.
2/ You haven't had to deal with EU petty bureaucracy tearing your business down.
3/ You don't think it matters.

[nanna58]

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What a buggering Boston read ,we knew some but not all of it ,what a debacle. xx

[Still Waving]

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http://a.msn.com/r/2/AAh1uEt?a=1&m=EN-GB

[Phoenix]

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Impressive post, NW - but very depressing!

And as for Georgie Porgie going round threatening tax rises and benefit cuts - words fail me! Thought we were in a democracy and this sort of thing had to be voted through.

Must admit that I had a little chuckle at the shouting match on the Thames, between Farage and Bob Geldof - added a bit of light-heartedness to the proceedings (Since when has Bob Geldof been on the side of the establishment?)

Just started watching David Dimbleby interviewing Michael Gove - quite impressed with Gove so far (and it is a far better alternative to unlimited boring football!)

[nanna58]

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Personally I think Gove looks promising, more like a pm.I wasn't keen but have been impressed by him.xx