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    Hi Niddy, I found you here after noticing you weren't posting on the MSE forums any more.

    I have had a long-standing dispute with Egg over enforceability of a card from 2003. I made my original CCA request a couple of years ago and what they sent me had the usual issues - "approved limit" and reconstituted documents rather than an original agreement. The usual to-ing and fro-ing ensued.

    However, as the amount was less than 10k, I remember being advised to consider reaching a settlement with them. I was also concerned about blotting my clean CRA files (I couldn't give a monkey's now as I never intend to get in debt ever again in my life)and about "late fees" and interest being applied if I stopped making payments.

    Then came the Slater v Egg judgement, which I know has put a lot of people off fighting even though it is not directly relevant to cases such as mine. But the problem is that the only legal opinion that actually matters is that of the judge on the day and I was worried about having to pay their legal fees on top if the judge sided with them.

    So I thought I would be pragmatic and get some debt counsellors to get the account frozen and negotiate reduced payments or a substantially reduced full and final settlement.

    I had been assured the account was frozen while it was "on hold". It has since been passed to a DCA and I was sent a demand to pay the full outstanding balance, which was nearly £600 more than it was in February.

    This has pissed me off big time, as the whole point of getting the debt counsellors involved was to avoid precisely this kind of extortion!

    I have maintained in all correspondence with Egg that I considered the account to be unenforceable. And quite frankly, I want to resume the unenforceability route as I don't see that I have anything to lose now.

    I've deliberately kept details out of this post for obvious reasons, but will happily email you Jpegs of the alleged "agreement" and correspondence if you would like to see them.

    I'd just like some advice here on whether or not it is advisable to resume unenforceability instead of continuing with these debt counsellors.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by Never-In-Doubt; 20 July 2011, 12:16. Reason: editing OP threads!

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    Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

    Hi again,

    Long time no see

    Ok, so why did you use these idiots when you had us guys from mse/lb/here etc that would have done the same, with a better result - for less hassle?

    Anyway, why not send me a copy of what you have and lets have a mooch - email: agreements@all-about-debt.co.uk

    Cheers
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    • #3
      Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

      Initial email sent.

      It was the Slater v Egg judgement that did it for me - the impression from MSE, CAG etc for a while after that seemed to be that all bets were off.

      I don't really want to diss the debt counsellors as they came highly recommended to me by others, they're not the usual shysters. I'm unhappy with the way my particular case has been handled but I don't think they're idiots like some of the other ones are.

      One of the problems has been Egg trying to undermine the whole thing by different departments claiming they had not been contacted by the counsellors or hadn't had my client authority etc.

      But anyway, I've tried playing nice with the extortionists and got nowhere, so I want to resume playing hardball.

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      • #4
        Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

        You have just found out that the financial industry does not understand the word nice and fair.

        You have to be hardball and fight them with the same stick they use.

        The days of the nice bank manager are long gone.

        Welcome back to AAD where help and advice is in abundance.

        Regards

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        • #5
          Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

          Originally posted by evilcartman View Post
          Initial email sent.

          It was the Slater v Egg judgement that did it for me - the impression from MSE, CAG etc for a while after that seemed to be that all bets were off.

          I don't really want to diss the debt counsellors as they came highly recommended to me by others, they're not the usual shysters. I'm unhappy with the way my particular case has been handled but I don't think they're idiots like some of the other ones are.

          One of the problems has been Egg trying to undermine the whole thing by different departments claiming they had not been contacted by the counsellors or hadn't had my client authority etc.

          But anyway, I've tried playing nice with the extortionists and got nowhere, so I want to resume playing hardball.
          Mate, no offence but most debt counsellors are the same - anyway, that is by the by.....

          I'll check email later as bit busy (lunch calling) - will come back to you asap
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          • #6
            Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

            Originally posted by Never-In-Doubt View Post
            Mate, no offence but most debt counsellors are the same
            Cough cough! Watch it - I'm officially one now remember!

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            • #7
              Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

              Originally posted by caspar View Post
              Cough cough! Watch it - I'm officially one now remember!
              Nooo you're not mate, you're one of us in disguise which makes you sound
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              • #8
                Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

                Originally posted by caspar View Post
                Cough cough! Watch it - I'm officially one now remember!
                Heaven help the creditors when you get going
                When you have nothing you have nothing to lose

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                • #9
                  Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

                  Originally posted by Susie View Post
                  Heaven help the creditors when you get going
                  Not like that haha - he's just better equipped with knowledge to win things for people, as he can think outside the box and has hands on experience of fighting banks - unlike most of the councellors out there..........
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                  • #10
                    Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

                    Sorry it's taken so long to come back on this!

                    The DCA are being complete dicks, so I hope you do find the CCA paperwork unenforceable as I look forward to playing hardball with them.

                    Emailed Niddy.
                    Last edited by evilcartman; 15 September 2011, 16:36.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

                      Originally posted by evilcartman View Post
                      The DCA are ... complete dicks
                      They're not!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

                        Originally posted by evilcartman View Post
                        Sorry it's taken so long to come back on this!

                        The DCA are being complete dicks, so I hope you do find the CCA paperwork unenforceable as I look forward to playing hardball with them.

                        Emailed Niddy.
                        Can you just do a mini diary for us matey - provide the info as detailed here (but add to this thread and we'll tidy up later) ---> allaboutFORUMS - View Single Post - Unenforceability Diaries - Read me First!

                        Cheers
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                        • #13
                          Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

                          Originally posted by Never-In-Doubt View Post
                          Can you just do a mini diary for us matey - provide the info as detailed here (but add to this thread and we'll tidy up later) ---> allaboutFORUMS - View Single Post - Unenforceability Diaries - Read me First!

                          Cheers
                          Nice one, Niddy.

                          Should I keep any info that identifies me out of it or is that not something I need to worry about?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Want to resume unenforceability route

                            Originally posted by evilcartman View Post
                            Nice one, Niddy.

                            Should I keep any info that identifies me out of it or is that not something I need to worry about?
                            Oh god no - nothing personal mate!

                            All we need is the type of account, balance and stuff like that lol - do not mention account numbers or names (of you)...

                            Just the actual account specifics mate.... open forum remember
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