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  • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

    That's a standard Crappy1 template - seen em before and will see em again - they're still wrong though

    Stand firm, send template as directed above
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    • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

      cheers xx toying with the idea of signing it Mr Sample now that would confuse them
      if you do it today and you like it you can always do it again tomorrow


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      • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

        Hi you clever lot
        I am going to send an harassment letter to Freds but i would like to include the number of different numbers they use and also the Mystery person and number they keep asking for
        so how does this sound?

        "All of the numbers you call me from have been logged not least the 0116 where you continue to ask for a stranger and give out a reference number"

        thanx xx
        if you do it today and you like it you can always do it again tomorrow


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        • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

          Originally posted by nanna58 View Post
          Sent Cap 1 missing PTs
          sent freds dispute letter

          From cap 1 today

          We have provided you with a copy of your defaulted terms and conditions of your original agreement and have fully complied with requirments of S78 of the cca act.

          You have failed to state why you allege that the agreement is improperly executed pursuant to section 61 of the cca act 1974
          the agreement was properly executed pursuant to the S61(1) OF THE CCA 1974

          it contains all the precribed terms

          embodies all the prescribed terms , conforms to the regs under s61(1)
          Then goes on to quote Waksman in Carey v HSBC ( long paragraph)

          "We do not retain the orignal signed agreement which is returned to us but scan the signature portion of the agreement and retain this with in our systems "
          Yes standard letter - called 'waffle & Chocolate sauce - waffle & cr*P' - Its up to them to prove/find - Not for you to tell them 'Why' you allege the agreement UE. Heck they live in Kinder Garden world.

          Received those letters from them before, if it has been deemed UE, then just take an ignore Pill and see what they'll send 'Delay the game, the closer UE ends'

          They just admitted that they don't keep a copy of the CCA, only your 'Signature' (so why keep a persons signature? what do they plan to do with that)

          Year later and not been in touch
          Last edited by 5corpio; 24 August 2012, 06:54.
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          • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

            Originally posted by nanna58 View Post
            Hi you clever lot
            I am going to send an harassment letter to Freds but i would like to include the number of different numbers they use and also the Mystery person and number they keep asking for
            so how does this sound?

            "All of the numbers you call me from have been logged not least the 0116 where you continue to ask for a stranger and give out a reference number"

            thanx xx
            why bother? You can mention it if you want, but there's really no need as they will not pay that much attention.... they're 'nice' like that you see
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            • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

              seeing that they are soooooo nice maybe a love letter, no you are right i wont bother
              if you do it today and you like it you can always do it again tomorrow


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              • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

                nice one 5corps yea i did pick up on that sentance x
                if you do it today and you like it you can always do it again tomorrow


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                • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

                  Originally posted by nanna58 View Post
                  Sent Cap 1 missing PTs
                  sent freds dispute letter

                  From cap 1 today

                  We have provided you with a copy of your defaulted terms and conditions of your original agreement and have fully complied with requirments of S78 of the cca act.

                  They "politely" refer me to the Key Financial information section on your credit agreement you will see specific details.

                  You have failed to state why you allege that the agreement is improperly executed pursuant to section 61 of the cca act 1974
                  the agreement was properly executed pursuant to the S61(1) OF THE CCA 1974

                  it contains all the precribed terms

                  embodies all the prescribed terms , conforms to the regs under s61(1)
                  Then goes on to quote Waksman in Carey v HSBC ( long paragraph)

                  "We do not retain the orignal signed agreement which is returned to us but scan the signature portion of the agreement and retain this with in our systems "
                  They then inform me how longi have had the card and never before have i questioned it.
                  also they have sent a sample copy of god knows what but it is titled Mr Sample!!!!
                  Then there is a blank application form ,they already sent this before with nothing more on than a tick by me in the NO box for PPI

                  THey also say they will continue to chase.

                  many thx
                  Sent off "Final Response UE CCA received" on 27/08/2012

                  Thier response today


                  "in regards to your claim your agreement is unenforceable i refer you to the decision of Mr Justice Faux in McGuffick v The royal bank of scotland and HH judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC(2009) " It was clearly established in McGuffick that the following steps do not amount to enforcement"

                  they then list reporting or threatening to report to a CRA

                  passing on personal data

                  demanding payment

                  issuing a default

                  instruct a third party to demand payment or otherwise seek to procure payment

                  Threatening legal action

                  Over tha page there are lots of goings on and on and on about Carey
                  and how it was established that a recon is ok a document need not be a single copy

                  in a nut shell it reads more informative than a threat and also it seems to be a template or standard reply
                  except they go on about the signature page , which btw was a tick in the no box for ppi

                  should i ignore or do i needto reply xxx
                  many thanks
                  if you do it today and you like it you can always do it again tomorrow


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                  • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

                    It's just their standard rubbish. I would just ignore if it were me.
                    Let your smile change the world but don't let the world change your smile


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                    • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

                      I think so Pix xxxxx
                      if you do it today and you like it you can always do it again tomorrow


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                      • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

                        Originally posted by nanna58 View Post
                        Sent off "Final Response UE CCA received" on 27/08/2012

                        Thier response today


                        "in regards to your claim your agreement is unenforceable i refer you to the decision of Mr Justice Faux in McGuffick v The royal bank of scotland and HH judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC(2009) " It was clearly established in McGuffick that the following steps do not amount to enforcement"

                        they then list reporting or threatening to report to a CRA

                        passing on personal data

                        demanding payment

                        issuing a default

                        instruct a third party to demand payment or otherwise seek to procure payment

                        Threatening legal action

                        Over tha page there are lots of goings on and on and on about Carey
                        and how it was established that a recon is ok a document need not be a single copy

                        in a nut shell it reads more informative than a threat and also it seems to be a template or standard reply
                        except they go on about the signature page , which btw was a tick in the no box for ppi

                        should i ignore or do i needto reply xxx
                        many thanks

                        Ignored above letter

                        received today from cap 1
                        they have informed Freds to act on their behalf they will be in touch shortly or i can ring them.
                        any response or wait till freds ring and send another "in dispute letter?"

                        thanks xxxx
                        if you do it today and you like it you can always do it again tomorrow


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                        • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

                          i'd wait until freds make contact then hit them with a sold in dispute

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                          • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

                            Never ring all in writing.
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                            • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

                              gangy i would never ring them ever in a millenium or a month of sundays xxxx
                              if you do it today and you like it you can always do it again tomorrow


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                              • Re: nanna58 UE Diary

                                Re crap one (supposed to be unleashing Freds)
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                                if you do it today and you like it you can always do it again tomorrow


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