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    Does anyone have any experience of these? As my CCJ wasn't from a CCA, Spreadex are threatening to get one and I was told they are actually more powerful than a normal bailiff and just break in to take stuff??

  • #2
    Re: High Court Enforcement Officer

    I haven't had any deaings with them but have a look here and here

    Sorry if you've posted this elsewhere but have you not been paying your CCJ?
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    • #3
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      Thanks I've found this from your link - National 'standards' but aren't legally enforceable.

      Mode of entry
      57. Enforcement agents should not seek to gain peaceable entry to premises under
      false pretences; for example asking to use the toilet, or to use the telephone.
      They should be clear as to why they are seeking entry to the premises.

      58. Enforcement agents should only enter premises as part of the enforcement
      process.

      59. Enforcement agents must only use a door or usual means of entry to enter
      premises.

      60. A power to enter premises by force exists for the execution of High Court and
      County Court debts at business premises or at any premises where an
      enforcement agent is enforcing criminal penalties. This power should only be
      used to the extent that it is reasonably required and only after the debtor has
      been warned that the power exists and the consequences of a wilful refusal to
      co-operate.


      So is that high court debts anywhere, plus County at Business - or High Court & County at Business only? Not very clear???

      The website just says entry into residential is limited, but doesn't say what to! As I've got stuff in my house to sell on, I'd be better off paying to go bankrupt than dealing with these lot if they can break in (they won't know where I live, but it shouldn't take too much digging to find out!).


      Spreadex want £500 a month because I'm employed and they won't budge! So haven't had anything because I've only just got the new job.

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      • #4
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        £500 a month! Was that amount set by the judge determining the CCJ?
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        • #5
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          Originally posted by 1NightInIbiza View Post
          Does anyone have any experience of these? As my CCJ wasn't from a CCA, Spreadex are threatening to get one and I was told they are actually more powerful than a normal bailiff and just break in to take stuff??
          A HCEO serious, yes. They have very strict rules to abide by and Cloggy can probably help you run circles around them however the OC must first obtain a CCJ and you must fail the CCJ prior to any HCEO being instructed....
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          • #6
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            I think he's already got the CCJ and isn't paying it
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            • #7
              Re: High Court Enforcement Officer

              Originally posted by Pixie View Post
              I think he's already got the CCJ and isn't paying it


              However, if it is set too high then get to the court and change it via variation (??) to reduce the amount each month.....
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              • #8
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                Originally posted by 1NightInIbiza View Post
                The website just says entry into residential is limited, but doesn't say what to! As I've got stuff in my house to sell on, I'd be better off paying to go bankrupt than dealing with these lot if they can break in (they won't know where I live, but it shouldn't take too much digging to find out!). Spreadex want £500 a month because I'm employed and they won't budge! So haven't had anything because I've only just got the new job.
                Do you live alone or with another? If with another then see a solicitor and sign an undertaking that nothing in the house belongs to you..... they're buggered then

                However long term, I would redetermine the repayments, it's not up to Spreadex it is the judge who determines the amount you repay and they will not make you pay £500 a month mate - fact!
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                • #9
                  Re: High Court Enforcement Officer

                  Originally posted by Never-In-Doubt View Post
                  Do you live alone or with another? If with another then see a solicitor and sign an undertaking that nothing in the house belongs to you..... they're buggered then
                  Genius! All the best with this 1nightinIbiza
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                  • #10
                    Re: High Court Enforcement Officer

                    Thanks everyone. I found the form. What's the fee, can't see it. It just says 'You will have to pay a fee'.

                    http://hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.u...s/n245-eng.pdf

                    It doesn't look like that gives any details for my expenses. So do they just set an amount? Or do I include I&E from stepchange etc?

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                    • #11
                      Re: High Court Enforcement Officer

                      Ok my wonderful computer only downloaded half the form!

                      Looks like the full form is here: http://www.ashleypark.co.uk/%5CDocum...der_(N245).pdf and a £35 fee.

                      If I post that in on Tuesday will that then stop HCEOs or do I have to do more while waiting for it to be agreed etc?

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                      • #12
                        Re: High Court Enforcement Officer

                        I guess it's been sent? Please clarify.....

                        If so and the HCEO is onto you then ring and tell them you've made an application to vary the order and suspend HCEO bailiffs. Record the call if you can

                        Keep a copy by your door in case they do show up.
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                        • #13
                          Re: High Court Enforcement Officer

                          Thank you, so far all I have is a threat to involve HCEO's if they don't get their money in 14 days. After that I believe I get a notification that the HCEO's will be coming, before they do? By which time, the order will hopefully be sorted. I've got a copy of my form

                          Anyone know how long they usually take to respond?

                          Thanks

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                          • #14
                            Re: High Court Enforcement Officer

                            You'll be alright now (touch wood)

                            keep us updated
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                            • #15
                              Re: High Court Enforcement Officer

                              Thanks

                              I will soon not be at the address I've given, I'm hoping the decision comes through before I move out. I don't really want to keep paying for a mail redirect - although I may have to, nobody knows about this address and I don't want to update the bank etc. 2 adults live here (now 3) so there are no tax/benefits implications or anything like that, I just don't want any HCEO's/DCAs etc rocking up - and as my credit file is trashed there's no point being on the electoral roll until they force me to.

                              NID - what's the virtual address prices? I can't access the link on the homepage. I'd be interested in purchasing/seeing further details

                              Cheers

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