Work have pulled a fast one here.....

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Blimey.... what a mess!

The umbrella company covers loads of smaller ones, so I can't think that they'd play silly b*ggers with HMRC but my tax coding is definitely the same both before and after taking on this new role.

[SXGuy]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

they've had it for two years

so surely it would have appeared in a tax code by now?

regardless of the tax position, you can't just withdraw a benefit without notification and discussion

Oh i see what you mean, well yes then if it ran for 2 years, you would have seen a tax code change in the 2nd and 3rd year.

[SXGuy]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Blimey.... what a mess!

The umbrella company covers loads of smaller ones, so I can't think that they'd play silly b*ggers with HMRC but my tax coding is definitely the same both before and after taking on this new role.

HMM im not an expert with umbrella companies, so there may well be a loop hole that gets them out of the "benifits in kind" senario which would reduce your tax code.

Usually, most if not all benifits in kind, is taxable, but umbrella companies skirt around the law by their very nature, so they may well know a way around it that im unsure of.

[julian]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

It does seem that the tax man will be a little more than interested in this case. The HR intern may be in for a telling off.

The tax deduction is why husband and wife, who are both eligible for 'free' healthcare normally do not both claim. As the spouse or family subscription is generally cheaper and therefore attracts less tax, all other things being equal they would tend to take the scheme from the person with the lowest tax code. Tax on a subscription of £1400 pa on 40% is £560 or a mere £280 on a 20% tax code.

If they have not charged you tax directly, the company must have paid it on your behalf . That is tantamount to an annual pay increase/decrease of say £1400, more if you are prone to chronic illness and accident, as private medical insurance for a company is spread over the all staff, but an individual subscriber pays more for not being fit. As SXGuy says, contact your union or staff association if you get no joy from HR.

TastyJane seems to be an HR person. Perhaps you should PM?.

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Oh i see what you mean, well yes then if it ran for 2 years, you would have seen a tax code change in the 2nd and 3rd year.

I can only recall one tax code change but it was to everyone's advantage and not the other way around. I also seem to recall something about being expected to notify HMRC ourselves but may have this mixed up with something else.... as often, people take on a second role where I work and need to declare this separately.

I will be raising the tax code issue with HR this week though if no-one sorts this out at work.

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

It does seem that the tax man will be a little more than interested in this case. The HR intern may be in for a telling off.

The tax deduction is why husband and wife, who are both eligible for 'free' healthcare normally do not both claim. As the spouse or family subscription is generally cheaper and therefore attracts less tax, all other things being equal they would tend to take the scheme from the person with the lowest tax code. Tax on a subscription of £1400 pa on 40% is £560 or a mere £280 on a 20% tax code.

If they have not charged you tax directly, the company must have paid it on your behalf . That is tantamount to an annual pay increase/decrease of say £1400, more if you are prone to chronic illness and accident, as private medical insurance for a company is spread over the all staff, but an individual subscriber pays more for not being fit. As SXGuy says, contact your union or staff association if you get no joy from HR.

TastyJane seems to be an HR person. Perhaps you should PM?.

Yes.... they do pay it on our behalf, which means I've had an indirect pay cut really.

Not happy.

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

**Update**

Following a number of emails sent to all and sundry and my boss on the phone to HR on Monday morning, I had a reply saying that my health policy would be reinstated as soon as possible and that it had been an admin. error..... As soon as it's been reinstated, the claim could then be honoured.

Hmmm.

I am happy for myself but not for the other poor b*ggers who've had claims rejected and done nothing about it. In fact, several people have been at my workplace for around two years now and never been sent any health policy documents at all. Why do people not complain about these things? No new staff employed since September have been included in the health policy either.

I know for a fact this was to save money on the set-up of this new part of where I'm based..... but as long as my claim is paid, I won't rattle any cages.

I'll let you know when I get another update.

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

I'm surprised you're still in a job

But well done on fighting for your rights....

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

TastyJane seems to be an HR person. Perhaps you should PM?.

Spot on, indeed she is - she has already offered to help people who need HR queries answered which is great.

Thanks for remembering this and pointing it out

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

I'm surprised you're still in a job

But well done on fighting for your rights....

If I hadn't calmed down before Monday morning, I might not be.

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

If I hadn't calmed down before Monday morning, I might not be.

In a perverse kinda way would it have been such a bad thing, being you bloody hate it (or the management at least)!

But seriously, well done for sorting it. As you say, sometimes you gotta think of No1 and get yours sorted and leave other staff to fight their own corner....

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

In a perverse kinda way would it have been such a bad thing, being you bloody hate it (or the management at least)!

But seriously, well done for sorting it. As you say, sometimes you gotta think of No1 and get yours sorted and leave other staff to fight their own corner....

I do it for the money now; sad but true..... This has been the most frustrating year I've had for a long, long time and my heart's not been in it this year.

However, I do know that internal posts are coming up in yet another subsidiary workplace in about a month or so..... which should get me away from my current boss quite nicely

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Yea, I know what you mean. A lot of people are now just shutting up and getting on with things cos they rely on the cash. The 'love of the job' has gone from a lot of employers, sadly though I actually love my job and wouldn't change it right now.

It suits my lifestyle and allows me a lot of freedom so it's fine for me, plus the wages aren't too bad either

But most the people around me (not same job as me) do nothing but whine all day. Weird....

Good luck on internal transfer

[julian]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Make sure your manager does not apply before you send in your application.......

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Make sure your manager does not apply before you send in your application.......

He can't..... lol...... he's actually in charge of the subsidiary place where I'm at now. "In charge" my ass though....