Re: mehim's UE Diary
Took me a few days to digest all the shit Cabot sent me in this letter. They are magicians, they have produced a recon for an agreement with CCAM (Progressive Credit Ltd wtf are they?) and a recon for CITI. I know CITI sold to OPUS but I have lost rack.
I also know I never signed any agreement with CCAM or Progresive Credit LTD. so where this recon comes from god only knows.
Not sure where I go with this one apart from ignoring it and going away on holiday.
Any suggestions gratefully received.
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CITI Credit Card
start : Nov 2005
bal : £7,000 Now £7900+
last full : Sept 2009
present : not paying
status : default Unenforceable
dca : OPUS Now Cabot
2009
Feb 25th
I contacted a Claims Management Company.
Mar 15th
I agreed to sign up for 3 cards.
Mar
Letter from CMC advising me claim was going ahead and not to sign anything from CITI, to pass all correspondence from CITI to them ASAP
May 26th
Letter from CMC saying nothing had been received from CITI. They wrote telling them it was unenforceable as CITI had not complied within the time limit. Told me I could stop paying but would get loads of hassle. I kept paying meantime.
Loads of calls from CITI which I stonewalled referring them to the CMC
Aug 26th
Letter from solicitors acting on behalf of the CMC informing me that they would be writing to CITI asking for the account to be cancelled, if not they would be raising a court action.
Oct 1st
Letter from CMC saying they had the paperwork from CITI and the agreement was unenforceable. Again said I could stop paying it but I would get loads of hassle and they would default me. I stopped paying
2010
Jan 23rd
Letter asking for payment.
Jan 29th
Letter informing me that the complaint was dealt with, also a copy letter sent to the CMC informing them why the case was closed.
Feb 3rd
Letter for payment and informing me that service fees were being added.
Feb 23rd
Letter asking for payment within 7 days.
March 23rd
Letter Pending Default.
April 9th
Letter informing me of account transferring to CC Asset Management Ltd (CCAM)CITI would service the account until the transfer takes place.
May 5th
Letter from CITI defaulting the account dated 5th, remedy date 28th
May 27th
Cabot welcoming letter, informing me that they have bought my account that I held with OPUS Credit Card??
June 4th
CITI Terminated the agreement.
June 25th
Collect Direct demanding payment within 4 days on behalf of CITI
June 30th
Cabot asking for information regarding my query (think I answered the phone to them).
July 2nd
Personal Rep letter from Collect Direct, 5 days to pay.
July 15th
Collect Direct saying they are not going to enter into protracted correspondence with me, I should contact them and that CITI is prepared to offer a substantial discount to settle this account.
July 28th
HL Legal acting on behalf of Collect Direct who are acting on behalf of CITI give me 7 days to pay or they recommend to their client court action.
2011
March 29th
Panic Stations Letter from accountancy firm informing me that the CMC dealing with this for me had gone down the tubes.
March 30th
Letter to Accountants asking for my money back was ignored. Solicitor had already advised me there was no money.
April 13th
Bigger panic Letter from solicitors acting for the CMC, basically saying as there was no longer an indemnity, they could not advise me to go to court.
April 20th
Letter from me to CMC, that went bust, returned, no longer there.
May 10th
Took stock, decided after reading all the bumph from MBNA and friends that if they were so sure of their facts, they would have taken action 2 years ago. Decided to fight on.
Aug 18th
Sent SAR to CITI
Aug 24th
Letter from CITI they dont know who I am.
Aug 30th
Sent them name and DOB
Sept 20th
Letter from Cabot, telling me they acquired the original Credit Agreement from OPUS Credit Card. Included was a copy of an OPUS credit card agreement with a card number I had never seen before.
Sept 23rd
Letter from OPUS thanking me for my SAR?? Also included was a copy letter dated 10th August from them informing me that I could not send a SAR to CITI
Oct 3rd
Letter from Cabot putting the account on hold for 14 days.
Oct 17th
Sent Cabot a letter regarding the ones I had received from them, informed them I had never had an account with OPUS, never sent them a SAR
Oct 17th
Sent letter to OPUS pointing out the early dated one, informing them I would be taking no instructions from them on who I could send a SAR to. Also pointed out that this account was in dispute.
Oct 19th
Letter from Cabot saying they believe the information sent resolves the dispute, account on hold a further 14 days.
Oct 21st
Letter from OPUS regarding my complaint.
Oct 23rd
Letter sent to Cabot warning them that I may initiate legal action if they choose to ignore my dispute and attempt enforcement.
Oct 24th
Letter from Cabot confirming that they bought the account may 13th and any dispute is with them. Also included another copy of the OPUS agreement.
Oct26th:
Letter from OPUS saying they bought the account from CITI in March
Oct 31st
Letter from Cabot saying they have contacted Bank of Scotland (OPUS) for a copy of the agreement
Nov 2nd
Sent letter to data controller at CITI regarding no reply to my SAR
Nov 8th
Letter from Cabot apologising for delay in replying as original lender (CITI, OPUS, Bank of Scotland??? take your pick)was having a delay in retrieving the info.
OPUS called and asked me to verbally request a SAR from them which I did.
Nov 29th
Uncomplete SAR received from OPUS which included a recon OPUS agreement. It also had this in the letter,
"I hope the information that I have provided you will assist you and be beneficial with your current dispute with CITI."
Card number different from the CITI number. Also a recon copy agreement from CITI
Dec 1st
Letter from Cabot apologising for the delay in getting the requested information. "We shall continue to request the information from the original lender."
Dec 13th
More SAR information from OPUS.Statements from Feb 2006. Amazingly, Citi stopped sending statements may 2010, OPUS show them for Oct/Nov 2010 from CITI and then shows statements from OPUS from Jan 2011 to Nov 2011 none of which show penalty interest and none off which I have ever seen before. None of the statements have been sent to me since May 2010
2012
Jan 17th
Letter from Cabot with a recon agreement from OPUS with their card number I have never had. Also a sheet showing penalty interest being added monthly since may 2011. Also referring to my s78 request.
Jan 31st
Letter to CITI regarding my SAR giving them 14 days to send the information or I report them for non-compliance.
Jan 31st
Letter to Cabot pointing out it was their Data Controller who asked me to verbally request a SAR from them, it was not under s78. Asked them to kindly reply to my SAR to CITI which they now appeared to have. Gave them 14 days or reporting them for non-compliance.
Jan 31st
Letter to Data Controller at OPUS pointing out the information I had specifically asked for in the SAR to CITI which they also now seemed to have a copy off.Also about the miraculous statements which they had conjured up, asked for an explanation regarding these mysterious statements. Gave him 14 days to reply and informed him I would be complaining to all the relevant authorities regarding these matters.
Feb 7th
Letter from cabot asking for a tenner for a SAR. Just going to write back telling them to get stuffed that as they know the account is in dispute. Should I be sending CITI another dispute letter re the ignored SAR
Feb 10th
CCA Request sent to CITI, bit late but what the hell. They will be even more confused than me.
Feb 11th
Reply from OPUS re incomplete SAR. they have me confused now. Told me the reason I never got statements during part of 2010 was I had a zero balance lol. I stopped paying in 2009 hmmmmmm
Feb 11th
Letter to Cabot re information not being supplied by all concerned.
EMAILING NIDDY
Feb 11th
Letter to Cabot telling them to get stuffed re another tenner for a SAR
Feb 12th:
Letter sent to Opus re UE from Templates.
Feb16th
Letter from Opus, They are unable to trace a copy of the signed application form and rabbiting on about their procedure has always been to obtain a signature before entering into an agreement. I never had a card with Opus, they bought an account from CITI.
EMAILING NIDDY
Niddy says
Feb 20th
Email from Cabot,
"The Cabot Financial Group recently bought the account you held with Opus Credit Card and we`ve tried contact previously. It`s now vital that you contact us urgently to discuss your account.
If you don`t contact us to agree a suitable repayment plan we`ll have to move your account to the next stage of our collections process."
Feb 21st
Sent account in dispute letter to Cabot with a copy of the letter from OPUS.
Feb 21st
Reply from Cabot advising me that they sent a recon true copy of the agreement in January which for the avoidance of doubt complies with the Consumer Credit etc. Still asking for payment.
Feb 24th
Incomplete response to my CCA request. Ignoring till they respond.
Feb 28th:
Another letter from Cabot. A Final Response. Letter at post #87
Feb 29th
Final response template letter sent to Cabot.
March 15th:
Letter from Cabot which included a copy of the letter at post #87. They again say that they wont be corresponding with me in relation to this matter. Oh dear it is now nearly £8000 they want from me.
July 25th:
Letter from CITI, lol, Further to their letter dated 24th August 2011 they are still unable to identify an account with the details furnished and ask again for my full name etc. They want another tenner as they returned my original one.
July 28th:
Replied with a copy of the 30th August letter along with proof of posting and their signature accepting the letter.
16th Oct:
Letter from CITI enclosing statements for the account they couldn`t find.
2013
7th Feb:
Letter from Cabot informing me that they recently bought the account that I held with Opus and we have tried to contact you??
16th Feb:
Letter to Cabot informing them the dispute is still ongoing.
1st March:
Letter from Cabot "Please call urgently and speak to one of their helpful customer advisors (SIC) regarding this account."
5th May:
Letter from Cabot offering 30% discount if I respond within 30 days from the day of the letter which is actually 26th April, yet received only today.
25th June:
Letter from Cabot telling me I owe money and they want a commitment to repay. If not they are going to move it to the next stage of their collection process.
30th Aug:
Letter from FIRE. NOTIFICATION OF INSTRUCTION TO COLLECT. due to my failure to pay this (alleged) debt, FIRE have been instructed by their client, CABOT FINANCIAL, to recover the full outstanding balance.
2nd Sept:
SWID off to Fire.
12th Sept:
Letter from fire in reply to my SWID, they are going to conduct a thorough investigation then come back asking me for cash lol
4th Oct:
Letter from Cabot referring to my SWID sent to FIRE. Upon reviewing their records they have addressed my concerns. With regard to my comments re CITI they want me to copy relevant documentation to them to enable them to investigate this further. This is their final response again lol.
start : Nov 2005
bal : £7,000 Now £7900+
last full : Sept 2009
present : not paying
status : default Unenforceable
dca : OPUS Now Cabot
2009
Feb 25th
I contacted a Claims Management Company.
Mar 15th
I agreed to sign up for 3 cards.
Mar
Letter from CMC advising me claim was going ahead and not to sign anything from CITI, to pass all correspondence from CITI to them ASAP
May 26th
Letter from CMC saying nothing had been received from CITI. They wrote telling them it was unenforceable as CITI had not complied within the time limit. Told me I could stop paying but would get loads of hassle. I kept paying meantime.
Loads of calls from CITI which I stonewalled referring them to the CMC
Aug 26th
Letter from solicitors acting on behalf of the CMC informing me that they would be writing to CITI asking for the account to be cancelled, if not they would be raising a court action.
Oct 1st
Letter from CMC saying they had the paperwork from CITI and the agreement was unenforceable. Again said I could stop paying it but I would get loads of hassle and they would default me. I stopped paying
2010
Jan 23rd
Letter asking for payment.
Jan 29th
Letter informing me that the complaint was dealt with, also a copy letter sent to the CMC informing them why the case was closed.
Feb 3rd
Letter for payment and informing me that service fees were being added.
Feb 23rd
Letter asking for payment within 7 days.
March 23rd
Letter Pending Default.
April 9th
Letter informing me of account transferring to CC Asset Management Ltd (CCAM)CITI would service the account until the transfer takes place.
May 5th
Letter from CITI defaulting the account dated 5th, remedy date 28th
May 27th
Cabot welcoming letter, informing me that they have bought my account that I held with OPUS Credit Card??
June 4th
CITI Terminated the agreement.
June 25th
Collect Direct demanding payment within 4 days on behalf of CITI
June 30th
Cabot asking for information regarding my query (think I answered the phone to them).
July 2nd
Personal Rep letter from Collect Direct, 5 days to pay.
July 15th
Collect Direct saying they are not going to enter into protracted correspondence with me, I should contact them and that CITI is prepared to offer a substantial discount to settle this account.
July 28th
HL Legal acting on behalf of Collect Direct who are acting on behalf of CITI give me 7 days to pay or they recommend to their client court action.
2011
March 29th
Panic Stations Letter from accountancy firm informing me that the CMC dealing with this for me had gone down the tubes.
March 30th
Letter to Accountants asking for my money back was ignored. Solicitor had already advised me there was no money.
April 13th
Bigger panic Letter from solicitors acting for the CMC, basically saying as there was no longer an indemnity, they could not advise me to go to court.
April 20th
Letter from me to CMC, that went bust, returned, no longer there.
May 10th
Took stock, decided after reading all the bumph from MBNA and friends that if they were so sure of their facts, they would have taken action 2 years ago. Decided to fight on.
Aug 18th
Sent SAR to CITI
Aug 24th
Letter from CITI they dont know who I am.
Aug 30th
Sent them name and DOB
Sept 20th
Letter from Cabot, telling me they acquired the original Credit Agreement from OPUS Credit Card. Included was a copy of an OPUS credit card agreement with a card number I had never seen before.
Sept 23rd
Letter from OPUS thanking me for my SAR?? Also included was a copy letter dated 10th August from them informing me that I could not send a SAR to CITI
Oct 3rd
Letter from Cabot putting the account on hold for 14 days.
Oct 17th
Sent Cabot a letter regarding the ones I had received from them, informed them I had never had an account with OPUS, never sent them a SAR
Oct 17th
Sent letter to OPUS pointing out the early dated one, informing them I would be taking no instructions from them on who I could send a SAR to. Also pointed out that this account was in dispute.
Oct 19th
Letter from Cabot saying they believe the information sent resolves the dispute, account on hold a further 14 days.
Oct 21st
Letter from OPUS regarding my complaint.
Oct 23rd
Letter sent to Cabot warning them that I may initiate legal action if they choose to ignore my dispute and attempt enforcement.
Oct 24th
Letter from Cabot confirming that they bought the account may 13th and any dispute is with them. Also included another copy of the OPUS agreement.
Oct26th:
Letter from OPUS saying they bought the account from CITI in March
Oct 31st
Letter from Cabot saying they have contacted Bank of Scotland (OPUS) for a copy of the agreement
Nov 2nd
Sent letter to data controller at CITI regarding no reply to my SAR
Nov 8th
Letter from Cabot apologising for delay in replying as original lender (CITI, OPUS, Bank of Scotland??? take your pick)was having a delay in retrieving the info.
OPUS called and asked me to verbally request a SAR from them which I did.
Nov 29th
Uncomplete SAR received from OPUS which included a recon OPUS agreement. It also had this in the letter,
"I hope the information that I have provided you will assist you and be beneficial with your current dispute with CITI."
Card number different from the CITI number. Also a recon copy agreement from CITI
Dec 1st
Letter from Cabot apologising for the delay in getting the requested information. "We shall continue to request the information from the original lender."
Dec 13th
More SAR information from OPUS.Statements from Feb 2006. Amazingly, Citi stopped sending statements may 2010, OPUS show them for Oct/Nov 2010 from CITI and then shows statements from OPUS from Jan 2011 to Nov 2011 none of which show penalty interest and none off which I have ever seen before. None of the statements have been sent to me since May 2010
2012
Jan 17th
Letter from Cabot with a recon agreement from OPUS with their card number I have never had. Also a sheet showing penalty interest being added monthly since may 2011. Also referring to my s78 request.
Jan 31st
Letter to CITI regarding my SAR giving them 14 days to send the information or I report them for non-compliance.
Jan 31st
Letter to Cabot pointing out it was their Data Controller who asked me to verbally request a SAR from them, it was not under s78. Asked them to kindly reply to my SAR to CITI which they now appeared to have. Gave them 14 days or reporting them for non-compliance.
Jan 31st
Letter to Data Controller at OPUS pointing out the information I had specifically asked for in the SAR to CITI which they also now seemed to have a copy off.Also about the miraculous statements which they had conjured up, asked for an explanation regarding these mysterious statements. Gave him 14 days to reply and informed him I would be complaining to all the relevant authorities regarding these matters.
Feb 7th
Letter from cabot asking for a tenner for a SAR. Just going to write back telling them to get stuffed that as they know the account is in dispute. Should I be sending CITI another dispute letter re the ignored SAR
Feb 10th
CCA Request sent to CITI, bit late but what the hell. They will be even more confused than me.
Feb 11th
Reply from OPUS re incomplete SAR. they have me confused now. Told me the reason I never got statements during part of 2010 was I had a zero balance lol. I stopped paying in 2009 hmmmmmm
Feb 11th
Letter to Cabot re information not being supplied by all concerned.
EMAILING NIDDY
Feb 11th
Letter to Cabot telling them to get stuffed re another tenner for a SAR
Feb 12th:
Letter sent to Opus re UE from Templates.
Feb16th
Letter from Opus, They are unable to trace a copy of the signed application form and rabbiting on about their procedure has always been to obtain a signature before entering into an agreement. I never had a card with Opus, they bought an account from CITI.
EMAILING NIDDY
Niddy says
Feb 20th
Email from Cabot,
"The Cabot Financial Group recently bought the account you held with Opus Credit Card and we`ve tried contact previously. It`s now vital that you contact us urgently to discuss your account.
If you don`t contact us to agree a suitable repayment plan we`ll have to move your account to the next stage of our collections process."
Feb 21st
Sent account in dispute letter to Cabot with a copy of the letter from OPUS.
Feb 21st
Reply from Cabot advising me that they sent a recon true copy of the agreement in January which for the avoidance of doubt complies with the Consumer Credit etc. Still asking for payment.
Feb 24th
Incomplete response to my CCA request. Ignoring till they respond.
Feb 28th:
Another letter from Cabot. A Final Response. Letter at post #87
Feb 29th
Final response template letter sent to Cabot.
March 15th:
Letter from Cabot which included a copy of the letter at post #87. They again say that they wont be corresponding with me in relation to this matter. Oh dear it is now nearly £8000 they want from me.
July 25th:
Letter from CITI, lol, Further to their letter dated 24th August 2011 they are still unable to identify an account with the details furnished and ask again for my full name etc. They want another tenner as they returned my original one.
July 28th:
Replied with a copy of the 30th August letter along with proof of posting and their signature accepting the letter.
16th Oct:
Letter from CITI enclosing statements for the account they couldn`t find.
2013
7th Feb:
Letter from Cabot informing me that they recently bought the account that I held with Opus and we have tried to contact you??
16th Feb:
Letter to Cabot informing them the dispute is still ongoing.
1st March:
Letter from Cabot "Please call urgently and speak to one of their helpful customer advisors (SIC) regarding this account."
5th May:
Letter from Cabot offering 30% discount if I respond within 30 days from the day of the letter which is actually 26th April, yet received only today.
25th June:
Letter from Cabot telling me I owe money and they want a commitment to repay. If not they are going to move it to the next stage of their collection process.
30th Aug:
Letter from FIRE. NOTIFICATION OF INSTRUCTION TO COLLECT. due to my failure to pay this (alleged) debt, FIRE have been instructed by their client, CABOT FINANCIAL, to recover the full outstanding balance.
2nd Sept:
SWID off to Fire.
12th Sept:
Letter from fire in reply to my SWID, they are going to conduct a thorough investigation then come back asking me for cash lol
4th Oct:
Letter from Cabot referring to my SWID sent to FIRE. Upon reviewing their records they have addressed my concerns. With regard to my comments re CITI they want me to copy relevant documentation to them to enable them to investigate this further. This is their final response again lol.
I also know I never signed any agreement with CCAM or Progresive Credit LTD. so where this recon comes from god only knows.
Not sure where I go with this one apart from ignoring it and going away on holiday.
Any suggestions gratefully received.
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