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Re: spent2much UE diary
Originally posted by Spent2much View Post16 pages ?
Originally posted by evenlessdopey View Postyou need to send the front page, if there are loads of t&cs don't bother with them yet unless Niddy asks for them.I'm the forum administrator and I look after the theme & features, our volunteers & users and also look after any complaints or Data Protection queries that pass through the forum or main website. I am extremely busy so if you do contact me or need a reply to a forum post then use the email or PM features offered because I do miss things and get tied up for days at a time!
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Re: spent2much UE diary
Originally posted by evenlessdopey View PostSpent
have you sent what you received to Niddy?
you need to send the front page, if there are loads of t&cs don't bother with them yet unless Niddy asks for them._______________________________________
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Re: spent2much UE diary
Originally posted by Spent2much View PostType of account (solutions finance card)
Date commenced (2003)
Approx balance (£2,111
Date last paid (22 June 2012)
Are you on arrangement or not paying (was on dmp now stopped paying)
Status (default/in arrears )
Account owner (Capquest)
18/07/2012
recieved a letter saying they have put this account on hold for 28 days until they get the information i require, in the meantime would i like to send them any information that might speed this up (not bloody likely)
letter recieved from Capquest.
Dear spent2much,
Blah Blah Blah.
We refer to our recent letter and regret that we have still been unable to obtain all the documents you requested from the original creditor. However please find attached some statements for your information.
We aknowledge that until we are able to provide copies of the documents to you , your account is unenforceable. That does not mean that the debt has ceased to exist and it is proper for us to continue to report the default on the account to the credit reference agencies. We may also write to you to provide information as the the state of your account.
If we are provided witht the relevant documentation at a future date, we will send copies to you. At this point the debt will again become enforceable . We will then require your proposals for repayment , by installments that you are able to maintain that we will seek to agree with you. If at that point you are not willing to make payment or an arrangement we will consider enforecement.
do i need to send anything to these now its unenforceable or do i just wait to see what they do next ?Last edited by Spent2much; 12 August 2012, 08:11._______________________________________
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Re: spent2much UE diary
Yay!!!!
Remember the mantra:
NEVER communicate by 'phone.
Send EVERYTHING by Recorded/Special Delivery
Keep a copy of EVERYTHING sent
Keep hold of EVERYTHING received
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This is the letter to Moorcroft which i have ajusted to re send the postal order for the overdraft cca , do you think its ok ?
Dear Sirs,
Ref: moorcroft ;*******
client ref ;********
re. your letter dated 18th July 2012
I am re-issuing the postal order to your company for
the information I am entitled to, As you are the
official agent for the purpose of recovery on behalf
of loydsTSB, it is you who should be holding the
required documentation.
Be advised you are now beyond the 12+2 days that is
legally permitted for return of this information.
Under the provisions of The Consumer Credit (EU
Directive) Regulations 2010 and also c.39 (s.74
(A&B) (VA)) CCA(1974) I wish to formally request a
copy of the original overdraft agreement and
relevant paperwork that you should be sending me
annually, for the above numbered bank account with
[LloydsTsb].
As I held what can only be regarded as an 'Agreed
Overdraft', which has now reverted to an
'Unauthorised Overdraft' then the lending becomes
regulated in line with c.39 Part VA (s.74) (s.1(b))
CCA1974 meaning the normal rules and CCA(1974)
protection applies to this account.
You should be sending an annual reminder to me
regards the overdraft, as well as copies of the
original agreement made and an annual renewal form
that contains the relevant prescribed terms that are
clearly outlined in s.74(A)2(a,b,c,d,e). I highlight this
provision for your perusal;
s.74A(2) The current account agreement must
include the following information at the time it is
made:
(a)the rate of interest charged on the amount
by which an account-holder overdraws on the current
account or exceeds the pre-arranged overdraft limit,
(b)any conditions applicable to that rate,
(c)any reference rate on which that rate is
based,
(d)information on any changes to the rate of
interest (including the periods that the rate applies
and any conditions or procedure applicable to
changing that rate), and
(e)any other charges payable by the debtor
under the agreement (and the conditions under which
those charges may be varied).
You should also be paying attention to s.74(B)(2)
which reads, I quote;
s.74B(2) The matters referred to in subsection (1)
are:
(a)the fact that the current account is
overdrawn or the overdraft limit has been exceeded,
(b)the amount of that overdraft or excess,
(c)the rate of interest charged on it, and
(d)any other charges payable by the debtor in
relation to it (including any penalties and any interest
on those charges).
Therefore in line with the above, please could you
send me what you should have been doing annually
and have not been, to allow me to take whatever
action I deem appropriate.
I trust that I have set out the position clearly and I
await your response with the requested information.
Yours faithfully,
spent2much_______________________________________
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Re: spent2much UE diary
Originally posted by Spent2much View PostThis is the letter to Moorcroft which i have ajusted to re send the postal order for the overdraft cca , do you think its ok ?
Dear Sirs,
Ref: moorcroft ;*******
client ref ;********
re. your letter dated 18th July 2012
I am re-issuing the postal order to your company for
the information I am entitled to, As you are the
official agent for the purpose of recovery on behalf
of loydsTSB, it is you who should be holding the
required documentation.
Be advised you are now beyond the 12+2 days that is
legally permitted for return of this information.
Under the provisions of The Consumer Credit (EU
Directive) Regulations 2010 and also c.39 (s.74
(A&B) (VA)) CCA(1974) I wish to formally request a
copy of the original overdraft agreement and
relevant paperwork that you should be sending me
annually, for the above numbered bank account with
[LloydsTsb].
As I held what can only be regarded as an 'Agreed
Overdraft', which has now reverted to an
'Unauthorised Overdraft' then the lending becomes
regulated in line with c.39 Part VA (s.74) (s.1(b))
CCA1974 meaning the normal rules and CCA(1974)
protection applies to this account.
You should be sending an annual reminder to me
regards the overdraft, as well as copies of the
original agreement made and an annual renewal form
that contains the relevant prescribed terms that are
clearly outlined in s.74(A)2(a,b,c,d,e). I highlight this
provision for your perusal;
s.74A(2) The current account agreement must
include the following information at the time it is
made:
(a)the rate of interest charged on the amount
by which an account-holder overdraws on the current
account or exceeds the pre-arranged overdraft limit,
(b)any conditions applicable to that rate,
(c)any reference rate on which that rate is
based,
(d)information on any changes to the rate of
interest (including the periods that the rate applies
and any conditions or procedure applicable to
changing that rate), and
(e)any other charges payable by the debtor
under the agreement (and the conditions under which
those charges may be varied).
You should also be paying attention to s.74(B)(2)
which reads, I quote;
s.74B(2) The matters referred to in subsection (1)
are:
(a)the fact that the current account is
overdrawn or the overdraft limit has been exceeded,
(b)the amount of that overdraft or excess,
(c)the rate of interest charged on it, and
(d)any other charges payable by the debtor in
relation to it (including any penalties and any interest
on those charges).
Therefore in line with the above, please could you
send me what you should have been doing annually
and have not been, to allow me to take whatever
action I deem appropriate.
I trust that I have set out the position clearly and I
await your response with the requested information.
Yours faithfully,
spent2much
would you send this then, i don't want to rush to the post office and send something wrong ??
Not sending this until i know its ok don't want to say anthing to aknowledge this debt . So would appreciate some input if you would please
Last edited by Spent2much; 25 July 2012, 12:12._______________________________________
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Re: spent2much UE diary
The letter seems a tad long-winded.... and without re-capping on the thread, I'm unsure why you've decided to re-issue a PO.... ... but assume you have valid reasons.
I'd be more inclined to write something like:
I do not acknowledge any debt to your company.
Further to your most recent correspondence, please find enclosed a PO in connection with my request under the Consumer Credit Act 1974; dated xx/xx/xx
I trust there will be no further complications.
Yours faithfully,
Something like that.... but it's entirely your call.
Remember the mantra:
NEVER communicate by 'phone.
Send EVERYTHING by Recorded/Special Delivery
Keep a copy of EVERYTHING sent
Keep hold of EVERYTHING received
PriorityOne & CPUTR 2008 (ex P1 CAG CPUTR 2008)
I'm an official AAD Moderator and also a volunteer, here to help make the forum run smoothly. Any views or opinions are mine and not the official line of AAD. Similarly, any advice I have offered you is done so on an informal basis, without prejudice or liability. If in doubt seek advice from a qualified insured professional - Find a Solicitor or go to the National Probono Centre.
If you spot an abusive or libellous post then please report it by Clicking Here. If you need to contact me, for instance if I've issued you a warning, moved, edited or deleted your post, please send me a message by clicking my username.
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