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  • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

    I've got your email.

    You've only sent me Page 1 of Shoosmiths letter. The final paragraph matters (on Page 2?) because that's the bit which will say what they intend to do next. Hopefully it will say they don't intend to do anything but we need to be sure. Send it to me.

    Their letter quite rightly points out that there will be no Notice of Assignment provided under your Pre-Action Protocol request because the debt is still with the original creditor (because it hasn't been sold to a debt purchaser). Maybe you should have tweaked your LBA response to reflect that. It doesn't matter though. It's simply one less legal argument that you could make if this lands in court which is what we're trying to prevent.

    Their letter says they have enclosed copies of NW's response to your CCA request. Can you email me/Niddy/Elsa whatever it is they enclosed since that's what they intend to rely on in court so it'll be a good opportunity to see what they've got in their arsenal.

    They say that a copy statement was enclosed. Let us see that. Sometimes a statement includes a Notice of Sums in Arrears (s.86 CCA). If it doesn't (or the statement doesn't comply with s.86) and they've not sent you one then they may be in some difficulty when it comes to enforcing.

    The object of the exercise is to try to convince Shoosmiths that they shouldn't issue proceedings without alerting them to what they've got wrong so they can't remedy the problem.

    We're getting there slowly

    Plan B x

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    • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

      Okay, I have just sent you the second page which I thought I had sent originally. What I will do is scan all of the latest pages that they sent to me, minus the two that I have just sent. Thanks

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      • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

        Billy - send me a copy of shoosmiths letter please.

        Thanks.
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          Sent Niddy. Thanks

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          • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

            Oops - I've got a copy. PlanB sent me it earlier.

            Sit tight. Back soon.

            ** when did you last pay into this?
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            • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

              Ages ago, I'd have to check the exact date but I would estimate about 4 years ago

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              • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

                Il so it's not SB. That's for sure.
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                • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

                  None of mine are. I am at least 2 years away from any of my accounts being SB. Just to remind you, I tried to keep a couple of accounts going but had to succumb to the inevitable eventually. Therefore, a couple of my accounts are between 1 and 2 years behind the main bunch in the progression towards SB, unfortunately! Better late than never though!

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                  • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

                    Originally posted by billytommo View Post
                    I have just sent you the second page which I thought I had sent originally.
                    I've now got Page 2. Thank you for that.

                    My educated guess (because I'm not a lawyer) is that their letter suggests they will not issue legal proceedings until they have all the documentation which they will need as identified by you in your LBA Response letter.

                    They don't actually say that in so many words which is why I'm being ultra cautious. Shoosmiths are known to fight dirty.

                    I see no harm in replying with a short response which thanks them for their letter and asks them to contact you again when they have the relevant documentation.

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                    • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

                      I know from personal experience that they fight dirty! That Is why I take any 'threats' that I get from them very seriously. I agree that I should send something but it was what that something should be that I don't want to mess up on

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                      • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

                        I agree with PlanB. Short n sweet. Just say thanks - I await your response with the requested info and will revert once in receipt. Kinda thing.

                        Very short, sweet & polite.
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                        • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

                          Will do, thanks

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                          • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

                            Good plan

                            Once you've got your letter off, it might be an idea for you to do us a summary of what's gone on with this account so far Billy, as it's a long thread to sort through.
                            Ducks in a row!

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                            • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

                              Yes, don't I know it's long! I've often thought that mine must be one of, if not the, worst diaries to follow. It's almost as though it would be easier to follow if I had one diary per debt!

                              I'll go through the folder and sort my mini-diary for this debt over the next couple of days.

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                              • Re: BillyTommo's UE Diary

                                Thanks Billy

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