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    Hi Everyone sorry if i go on bit but I'm feeling sick and low ...

    My wife gets Contribution ESA in support group, Going back a bit she was getting income related ESA as we had a split where i moved out for three years, we sorted and i moved back and pledged to help by getting a job etc, i got my JSA stopped due to my wife getting ESA but i was added to her claim and we got by like that.. Anyway i kept my word and two months later i had a delivery job full time, My wife contacted ESA and they sent out a ESA3 form which we filled in they also said on the phone it would be best if my wife went onto contribution ESA if i was going to work over 24 hours per week ( i was working 44) so it changed, thats nearly three years ago she gets the normal update letters each year which shows she gets contribution ESA.

    Then all of a sudden end of last week a brown envelope came through the door, it was not fully typed but hand written in the address etc, It had a box ticked saying "You told us your partner has a part-time job or working voluntary" It the asks for my wife to answer a load of questions about me..

    I just don't understand it as for one i don't have any other job except my full time one and i don't work voluntary... I know for a fact my wife would have never filed in the form as part time and we do have a letter saying ..you can not get income based ESA because your husband is in full time employment...

    Why have we had this letter is it someone reported me to be malicious ?

    I know we have done nothing wrong or not knowingly but try and tell my head that...

    Thank you in advance...

  • #2
    Re: Letter from DWP

    not well up on ESA, it could be that they have just made a mistake, or they are trying to catch you out, can your wife ring them and ask what is going on?
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    • #3
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      Im going to ring them at 8am in morning as wife really is not well right now combination of heat and medication just drains her, she has not been up from bed since Friday when this letter came, didn't open it until i got home at 6.30 pm and they were already closed... She is worried which effects her health and then makes me stressed, i felt ill so didn't goto work Saturday which will just lead to the problems we had before i miss work, wife stressed we don't get on........

      Just seems strange its a hand written letter not a computer glitch etc...

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      • #4
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        Hi qwerty123. Try not to worry about the letter which I know isn't easy. There's no point thinking of the reason your wife received it as you'll never know.

        If I were your wife I would write to them and say that she has received this letter but nothing has changed since she informed them on xx/xx/201x that you had started full time employment.

        If she (and you) are too impatient to find out what is going on then by all means phone them.

        You know you've done nothing wrong so you should be okay.
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        • #5
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          Got this from another site and just hope this is not the start ...
          NEW TARGETS FOR DWP COMPLIANCE INTERVIEWS.

          Sometimes I’m taken by surprise. Mostly I’m not. But this is a new tactic. A new target driven tactic employed by the DWP.
          For anyone claiming JSA, ESA Income Support or universal credit you might be familiar with a local service compliance interview. They send these letters out usually on a random basis or sometimes on the say so of a suspected fraud taking place. Now these interviews are compulsory and if you don’t attend then your money will get stopped.
          Whilst attending one of these interviews you are normally treated like a criminal, guilty before being proven innocent, most likely innocent of any wrongdoing as you have been randomly picked in the first place. You are taken to a room which looks just like a police interview room. They record everything like the police do, only in this case you are most likely innocent. You are asked to bring with you all documentation and proof to say you are who you are. This is what happened to a local lady who will remain anonomous to prevent any harrasment from the DWP. Here is what happened.
          After being admitted to hospital for an operation, she returned home to a “compliance interview” letter.Now the only “crime” that this lady committed was to become ill. She is claiming ESA and was previously claiming JSA. There has been no other change in her circumstances, but she is regarded as a criminal and will be treated as such.
          The lady concerned phone up the DWP on the number provided.To ask why she has been asked for an interview (interrogation ) and to inform them that as a disabled person and therefore classed as vulnerable she will be bringing an advocate with her. Here is a summary of the conversation.
          It took her a while but she eventually got through to a real person. This chap sounded quite nice apparently but wasn’t expecting any questions. People normally just comply, they don’t question the DWPs decisions he said. He sounded compassionate for a DWP worker, that he was under great pressure to perform these interviews. He didn’t say he was under pressure but I am presuming that he is because he has been told that he’s got to claw £1000 back from innocent people, people that have been claiming the correct amount of money and have committed no benefit fraud. So she is just a person on the list of targets for this clawback. He said that the DWP had supposed to have sent her a previous letter, which surprise surprise they didn’t. He didn’t argue the case for the DWP as he believed that she was knowledgeable and it was pointless doing so. She asked him why he had given her all this information… He said that he did because she had asked lots of questions and his tone wasn’t of a person happy in his job. She also informed him that she will be taking a witness into the interview and that she wants proof of all said letters from the DWP to herself that hadn’t arrived. After all it’s a well known fact that these letters don’t get sent out in the first place and the onus is on them to prove that they sent them and not on her for not receiving them.
          There are several issues that need to be spoken about here. The first is that these compliance letters are now being used as a form of target for the DWP. Never before have I heard of this. We all have heard about sanction targets, but compliance targets? Wow. That’s an all time low.
          The second is the fact that you are proven guilty before you are even seen and are even interviewed in police like surroundings. This is shocking because even in a court of law you are supposed to be innocent before being proven guilty. The DWP doesn’t see it this way. And now they have a £1000 target to aim for innocent victims are going to be fraudulently accused of committing benefit fraud and will be asked to repay money that they do not owe, and have never owed. After all the DWP will want to reach that £1000 target so the most vulnerable will be targeted for this.
          The third is that the DWP are openly committing fraud. It’s much the same as demanding money with menaces. A very vulnerable person sitting in a compliance interview hosted by usually two very hostile DWP workers will agree to anything just to get out of the building. Their money will stop and they could well loose their home.
          The fourth and the last for now because I’m sure that I could think of more is that the decent members of staff working for the DWP are being put at risk by being forced to comply to enforcing these actions. The man concerned knew it was wrong but because he most likely he knows how bad it is to be unemployed, he has had to choose to enforce it. This is very wrong. Not all DWP workers are bad but the good ones tend to be the exception to the rule these days. They end up leaving or becoming ill because they cannot stand the stress and the wrongdoings anymore.
          Please share this blog. Let the DWP know that we are aware of their latest trick. If you receive one of their compliance letters always question it and demand a witness to any interview. That is your right so use it. We cannot allow them to get away with this fraud. Making the poorest pay for the banking crisis which was created by the richest is never acceptable.
          As my comrade States “With every twist of the screw that takes place it becomes more urgent that the jobcentre workers stand shoulder to shoulder with the claimants. Each generation has to relearn what solidarity means – that what the power of capitalist ideology does to us!”
          Quick note. ESA is employment and support allowance. JSA is Jobseeker’s Allowance. Universal credit is what it says on the tin.

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          • #6
            Re: Letter from DWP

            Thank you pixie..

            i know we are super careful too.. after two years working even though my income has no effect on my wives ESA infact i don't even think I'm part of it as she is on contribution not income related so its her NI that is paying for her ESA not mine... i got a small pay rise but i still wrote to them to inform of the rise...

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            • #7
              Re: Letter from DWP

              I've heard of lots of stories like that qwerty123 and they are awful but you must try and stay positive. Just because something has happened to someone else doesn't mean that it will happen to you. I know from personal experience that your own thoughts can be your worst enemy.

              If you're planning on phoning at 8am on a Monday morning I think you'll be on hold for a long time.
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              • #8
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                Yes i thought that but i have to work and I'm in 8 to 6 each day with 40 min to get lunch, I've called my manager who sorted cover Saturday for me and asked if i could start at 9.00 Monday he said ok i just have to miss 2 lunches to make it up ... Any tips for getting through someone has to be first bet its not me

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                • #9
                  Re: Letter from DWP

                  Not sure for tips on getting through first.

                  I have, however, had similar envelopes (twice) because someone reported me as working when I wasn't. I didn't have to attend an interview though, just sent the form back stating no change in circumstances.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Letter from DWP

                    Very good luck , could be a glitch you've nothing to worry about as you've not done anything wrong.x
                    if you do it today and you like it you can always do it again tomorrow


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                    • #11
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                      Managed to get through at 07.45 the lines were open they said it was just data gathering thank you to everyone

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                      • #12
                        Re: Letter from DWP

                        Originally posted by qwerty123 View Post
                        Managed to get through at 07.45 the lines were open they said it was just data gathering thank you to everyone
                        Great news, panic over

                        The thing that annoys me is that they cause panic (and you won't be the only one) unnecessarily. Maybe NW was right and "data gathering" = trying to catch you out
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