New neighbours from Hell!

[Pixie]

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I dont think there was an inference as such Pixie. You and I are in very similar circumstances - no matter what and when we apply for, we dont seem to be having any luck.

There are others who just cant be bothered, and know how to work the system to get the maximum benefit, not just money, but housing etc as well

I agree that there are those who have no interest in getting a job and seem to have enough money to smoke like a chimney and spend all day in the pub.

I think I'm just a teeny bit touchy today - snapped at my neighbour earlier

[oscar]

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I'm sorry Niddy, but as someone who is currently claiming the dole (I'm trying my damnedest to get a job), I really object to your inference here.

I dont think there was an inference as such Pixie. You and I are in very similar circumstances - no matter what and when we apply for, we dont seem to be having any luck.

There are others who just cant be bothered, and know how to work the system to get the maximum benefit, not just money, but housing etc as well

[helmsman]

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ODD , ADHD .... there is a cure, same cure for both and works in the majority of cases.

Its called a "fu**ing good hiding"

spot on Oscar

[Pixie]

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Basically I am a council boy through and through - so what, that's my upbringing BUT I have never claimed dole or stolen, hurt or done anything I'd consider 'too bad'.

I'm sorry Niddy, but as someone who is currently claiming the dole (I'm trying my damnedest to get a job), I really object to your inference here.

I also blame the parents for not setting boundaries or leading by example.

For a while, after I got divorced, I was a single mother on Income Support bringing up 4 children. None has ever been in trouble, all 4 are working full time, 2 have degrees (even if one of those with a degree is working at a minimum wage job), the two daughters with children were in their late 20s and married when they had them.

[oscar]

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ODD , ADHD .... there is a cure, same cure for both and works in the majority of cases.

Its called a "fu**ing good hiding"

[PriorityOne]

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It's the middle-class do-gooders who have perpetuated this type of individual unfortunately.... and it still goes on.

Sh*tloads of kids now have a multitude of social disorders which in many cases, allows some parent to absolve themselves of all responsibility because they have been "diagnosed" with it/them. A friend who I work with gives her prescribed medication for ADHD and ODD. When I got to know her better, i pointed out to her that these were not medical disorders. She insisted that they were.... but when the penny finally dropped, she took him off his medication and found that he was no different. Being on it just made him more teachable at school. I asked when his behaviour started and she said it was after his Dad left.

Anyone heard of ODD? Oppositional Defiant Disorder.... for Christ's sake!! In other words, not liking being told what to do.... "Disorders" like these have boomed over the past 25 years or so because do-gooders without a clue about real life decided that youngsters like this were under-privileged.... It also has a lot to do with parents being able to get Disability Living Allowance (like my friend does) if their behaviour is considered as needing attention from another person (care) for a considerable time, several times a day.

Now we have generations of people like this.... the "I want" type of person, who doesn't want to work, has no socal skills, can behave how they like, get financially rewarded for it..... and at the same time, has bought into the celebrity culture that's rammed down everyone's neck on a daily basis.

Welcome to British society; aka the Jeremy Kyle culture..... and governments think that spreading them around the country will solve the problem? Not in their back yard I bet.

I should write a book!

[LooLoo]

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I wanna know where all these "bad neighbour" types came from - I'm sure they didn't exist when I was a kid (I lived on a council estate and I'm told that it is now, also, a horrible place to live).

I know it's mad eh!

[diddlydee]

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I wanna know where all these "bad neighbour" types came from - I'm sure they didn't exist when I was a kid (I lived on a council estate and I'm told that it is now, also, a horrible place to live).

[LooLoo]

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Firstly P1 I so sorry about the your cat ((

These lot sound awful and I hope you can get something sorted out. Do you know the LL of the property?

Nid - hmm the whole affordable/social housing in new builds - don't I know all about that - all around this area new developements are going up - but you have to explain to people x% will be private x% will be key worker/affordable housing and x% will be social (council or housing association). Once place we recently sold some flats in - had a beautiful entrance hall/concierge etc for the private flats and the social housing people has their door round the back - the lift access from the front would only stop at the "private floors"

There is one huge new place on the river in the old Wharfs and all the social housing was completed first - and now it is really putting people off buying in that area as you could be buying a victorian house next to a council estate.

Please believe me not all council tennants are bad - but our first house was this lovely little ex local masionette - 2 bed and really god size - with a garden - when we moved in our next door neighbours each side were elderly couples - and about half the block owned and most had been there since they were built - sadly over the first couple of years we were there our neighbours passed away or moved out and OMG the council just put rubbish tennants in there - i was calling the police or the council on a constant basis - and I when i got through to someone at the council and i said why do you insist on putting these types of people in such a nice block and there reasoning is - if we put them in with respectable people we hope they will also basically behave themselves....! We then had drug dealing on the stairwell so enough was enought and we sold - to an investor who was buy to let... so god knows what it is like there now.

My friend recently had scummy nightmare tennants in her home - and you would not believe the rights they had as tennants - not paying her rent - but claiming housing benefit - and it is so hard to get them evicted.

I really hope if all your neighbours band together you can get something sorted.

x

[Never-In-Doubt]

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The world's gone bloody mad.... the past 30 years has seen a boom in the underclass; all paid for by our clever Government(s). In my area, we now have 1500+ new houses being built for the London overspill....

That's similar to a popular rant of mine!

Basically I am a council boy through and through - so what, that's my upbringing BUT I have never claimed dole or stolen, hurt or done anything I'd consider 'too bad'. Yea I have been a lad etc but that's it - however, a few years ago we moved into what was known as an exclusive development, posh word for a posh estate! Anyhow, we were never told at any point throughout the buying process that the government had created a charter called affordable housing which meant that each new development had to have a percentage of homes available for those on lower income/dole/housing association etc.. So we move in and everything's fine until we see the flat things at the top of the street advertised as affordable housing.

Now, I am far from posh - and my feet are firmly on the ground BUT what really gets my fucking goat with this is why. Why the hell should someone work for 20 years and save thousands to be able to live in modest comfort yet someone that's never lifted a finger and instead lived off MY taxes get to share the street, just because human rights say they have a right to? Sorry it's utter bollocks.

I am a firm believer of if you can't afford something then you do without, in so much as does that mean cos my neighbours all drive £60k cars that I have a god given right to get one as well, at the rate I can 'afford', so what - lets say £4k (in comparison to the house price for them v us)....

Anyway, just saying.....

[PlanB]

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At the risk of sounding a bit right wing all I can say is "I blame the parents". These brats become brats because their parents have brattish behaviour which gets imitated since it seems the norm at home

When I found Class A drugs in my daughter's bedroom I took them straight to my local nick and gave the police her mobile number (she had run away from home at the time). They made one call which scared the pants off her and she came straight home. No more drugs in the house after that.

A friend of hers was arrested with vast quantities of drugs at Glastonbury, but only got a slap on the wrist at court when she pleaded "social distribution" not dealing So it seems it's ok to take drugs and give this evil stuff to other people so long as you don't charge any money for them. I'd have sent her to prison till she got her head sorted.

I agree with you that the "authorities" seem to have no authority these days.

[PriorityOne]

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If you think those kiddies may be 'at risk' living (if that's what it's called) in that negative environment with possible drug use involved (even if it's not being traded) then maybe a call to your local Social Services would be the right thing to do. They have a duty to follow up every tip-off (since tragic Baby P) and I believe that the welfare of any children is paramount at times like this. They're innocent bystanders

You would think it was paramount but unfortunately, it's not. Many of the kids I deal with at work have a Child Protection issue.... yet the authorities are too scared of offending anyone to do anything about it. I have made several CP referrals myself but nothing happens. All they seem to do is shuffle paper and nod a lot until the kid reaches 16.... by which time they're on their own anyway.

On a slightly different note, one of my kids at work (teenager) shits his pants uncontrollably.... yet he still has to be in class, despite hygiene issues. Yet staff can't wear flip flops at work for H&S reasons. Fecking ridiculous...

[PriorityOne]

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I agree that grassing them up is the way to go.... and I doubt I'll be the only one to do it. I've never been a snitch but do not want people like that living near me. Society is far too pc. I'm even starting to resent going back to work tomorrow (school) because my day revolves around trying to socialise the brats that these people pop out, don't bother to bring up properly.... and can hardly read or write by the time they reach Year 11.

The world's gone bloody mad.... the past 30 years has seen a boom in the underclass; all paid for by our clever Government(s). In my area, we now have 1500+ new houses being built for the London overspill....

At least my job will be safe.... lol

[PlanB]

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Hi folks,


There are loads of people living in this bungalow (3 beds.). It was bought by a woman who rents it out and this lot have come from a very rough part of the area. There are 4 cars parked up outside the house, a quad bike and a van and some(?) all of these people are at home all day. There are also 2 children living there. . . . .

. . . . I need to report him for dangerous driving and I also have reasons to believe they are drug dealing in there as well.

Any advice gratefully received.

If you think those kiddies may be 'at risk' living (if that's what it's called) in that negative environment with possible drug use involved (even if it's not being traded) then maybe a call to your local Social Services would be the right thing to do. They have a duty to follow up every tip-off (since tragic Baby P) and I believe that the welfare of any children is paramount at times like this. They're innocent bystanders

[diddlydee]

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That's how I read it, oscar.....