New neighbours from Hell!

[helmsman]

Re: New neighbours from Hell!

I really do think it all started when they stopped corporal punishment in schools. When I was at school in the 60's/70's there is no way you would ever miss-behave because you knew what you would get which was a great deterent. I had friends who were given the cane, who also got a smack on the bum and sent to their rooms by their parents, because the parents backed the teachers.
I got the odd bit of chalk thrown at me, or had my ear grabbed etc, didn't do me any harm and certainly made sure that I respeced grown up's......miss-behaviour = pain. We did have some bad un's at school that no ammount of punishment seemed to change, but the majority kept to the rules simply because they didn't want to get canned. One's who could easily have turned into trouble makers didn't beacuse the threat was enough to keep them well behaved.

If I walked past a policeman on the beat it was head down and keep walking, and I wasn't the type to get into any trouble, however the police were to be respected and revered.

Now kids, (not all I agree) play up at school and the teachers seem powerless to stop it, therefore they get away with murder. They then leave the system with no respect for adults, and when they eventually have kids of their own, perpetuate the problem by giving no disipline and so it goes on and on. I'd love to see the cane back but sadly it will never happen.

My parents came from a council house background and saved to eventually buy a new house which I grew up in, therefore when I wanted my own place with my fiance, it was straight down the estate agent to get a mortgage. Going to the council for a house never even crossed my mind.

Unfortunately, having a sheltered upbringing meant my first house was on a council estate because I didn't know the potential problems that may bring, and whilst one set of neighbours were old and lovely, the other side were a complete nightmare. Chained dog in the back garden constantly barking and the mess seeping under the fence, kept stock cars on the drive, outside their and our house, welding and banging in the garage omg I could go on but it's too depressing. We'd be struggling to pay the mortgage and they'd park up and bring crates of beer, fags, and loads of bags of food out of the boot. Easy when you're paying bugger all in outgoings....

Yuk, bad bad memories.

Spot On this country is just going down and down Im from the 50s&60s schooling, never this amount of problems also had the cane a few times would never tell my parents although my father never laid a hand on us kids but there would have been consequences for bad behaviour and rudeness to any adult. The old gits that we are remembering that far back.

[lookingforward]

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I really do think it all started when they stopped corporal punishment in schools. When I was at school in the 60's/70's there is no way you would ever miss-behave because you knew what you would get which was a great deterent. I had friends who were given the cane, who also got a smack on the bum and sent to their rooms by their parents, because the parents backed the teachers.
I got the odd bit of chalk thrown at me, or had my ear grabbed etc, didn't do me any harm and certainly made sure that I respeced grown up's......miss-behaviour = pain. We did have some bad un's at school that no ammount of punishment seemed to change, but the majority kept to the rules simply because they didn't want to get canned. One's who could easily have turned into trouble makers didn't beacuse the threat was enough to keep them well behaved.

If I walked past a policeman on the beat it was head down and keep walking, and I wasn't the type to get into any trouble, however the police were to be respected and revered.

Now kids, (not all I agree) play up at school and the teachers seem powerless to stop it, therefore they get away with murder. They then leave the system with no respect for adults, and when they eventually have kids of their own, perpetuate the problem by giving no disipline and so it goes on and on. I'd love to see the cane back but sadly it will never happen.

My parents came from a council house background and saved to eventually buy a new house which I grew up in, therefore when I wanted my own place with my fiance, it was straight down the estate agent to get a mortgage. Going to the council for a house never even crossed my mind.

Unfortunately, having a sheltered upbringing meant my first house was on a council estate because I didn't know the potential problems that may bring, and whilst one set of neighbours were old and lovely, the other side were a complete nightmare. Chained dog in the back garden constantly barking and the mess seeping under the fence, kept stock cars on the drive, outside their and our house, welding and banging in the garage omg I could go on but it's too depressing. We'd be struggling to pay the mortgage and they'd park up and bring crates of beer, fags, and loads of bags of food out of the boot. Easy when you're paying bugger all in outgoings....

Yuk, bad bad memories.

[PriorityOne]

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could be a result, don't want to say until they've driven off over the horizon

I won't rest until they've gone.... They're not going to rule around here. That much is a certainty.

[MrsD]

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could be a result, don't want to say until they've driven off over the horizon

[PriorityOne]

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**Update**

A second police raid on Friday night.... and I saw the whole thing!!

Fan-bloody-tastic..... full riot gear.... the lot!! A very slick operation, I must say!!

Both skanks were re-arrested and driven off in separate police vehicles.... and thanks to the councellor, the police have also been in touch with the estate/letting agent to say that the Notice to quit is binding.

Although the skanks were released at some point during the night, it's been very quiet here since; no dealing, etc.

[The Tech Clerk]

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In the 70s my kids (4) were playing out in the back garden as they do and neighbours (a bit older than us) screamed at the kids, this it seemed to happen quite often I found out so I purchased lapped fencing 6ft 6ins high by a certain length it seems it was too long for Council Regs, a council guy came to the house because they had a complaint about the fence being 4 feet too long as per regs, (yes 4 feet), I pointed out the reason why and took him to the back door to show the offending new fence, guess what neighbour screamed at the kids out the back just as we opened the door, the kids were not shouting just playing ball, the council guy said I will measure this now, and they persisted in screaming, then came back inside, inview of what has heppened whilst I am here, a letter of authority by the council to to keep the fence at it is with a provisol that if needed a full extension can be permitted in the future if applied for if necessary - good day Sir.

[Undercover Elsa]

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Sounds a nightmare, P1, I do feel for you. A few years ago we had to set up CCTV after our "posh" neighbours' son fell foul of his ganj dealer...who slashed our tyres one night by mistake.
Cost us a fortune, and no offer to pay by neighbours. Police were worse than useless.

[PriorityOne]

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I was asked to email our local counsellor this afternoon, so we'll see if that has any effect or not.

The neighbout next door (apparently) overheard the make skank talk about cutting brake cables in our cars ..... and the numpty hasn't bloody reported it!!

FFS!!

[Pixie]

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**Update**

The skanks have now been given their Notice ..... BUT.... they have asked the Estate Agent if they can stay on for longer if they don't find anywhere that they like before their notice is up.... and the EA has agreed!

WTF?! Anywhere they like? They gave up any right to that kind of privilege a long time ago, IMO!

I thought a Notice was a Notice! The IDIOT at the Estate Agency obviously thinks otherwise! Well.... we'll see about that.....

That's ridiculous!!! Though frankly, I'm not surprised. Skanks like these seem to get away with things because people (and that includes the police and authorities if my own case was anything to go by) are scared of them.

Another police raid is imminent.... AND they've been reported to DWP once again for Benefit fraud. No Housing Benefit = no rent for the EA....

Neighbours are angry and it's getting dirty...

Don't blame you. I wish my neighbours had helped me...I might not be in the financial mess I'm in if they had. Though to be fair, they were all (apart from one couple) elderly ladies living alone and were, frankly, scared of the family.

[PriorityOne]

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**Update**

The skanks have now been given their Notice ..... BUT.... they have asked the Estate Agent if they can stay on for longer if they don't find anywhere that they like before their notice is up.... and the EA has agreed!

WTF?! Anywhere they like? They gave up any right to that kind of privilege a long time ago, IMO!

I thought a Notice was a Notice! The IDIOT at the Estate Agency obviously thinks otherwise! Well.... we'll see about that..... Another police raid is imminent.... AND they've been reported to DWP once again for Benefit fraud. No Housing Benefit = no rent for the EA....

Neighbours are angry and it's getting dirty...

[Handyman]

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I have just watched the ITV programme Briefs.
Criminal Lawyers just about says it all.

OK so you or I could get caught up quite by accident at any time in the Criminal Law system. But these people putting words in the mouths of Chav's. Oooo .

If I can find the story of Mrs Handy and myself's experience when we made a judgement call to get a baby away from a stoner I will post the link. The Chav nearly killed a pensioner, kicked Mrs H in the Guts and bit me, then left it for a month before he told the police he had Hep B.

His brief was vicious to us witnesses, mind you he met his match with Mrs H .

The Chav was out in 2.

I hope his cell mate was gay and built like a Barnsley Out House

Regards all, Handy

[MrsD]

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it's good to rant

it's completely about the parents, four times on our hols we were very disturbed by parents who had absolutely no control over their children, some were quite small, others a bit older. we left one pub cos we couldn't hear ourselves talking, were very perturbed on the beach when a child started to walk into deep and dangerous currents, I thought I was going to have go and get him as his parents stood on the beach and blew a whistle!!!

another child and family emptied a fairly sizable outdoors restaurant in a town square by being totally unable to stop the child from screaming (went on for a good 15/20 minutes), and then when they finally left, tipped a table and broke all the crockery. and lastly there was the granny who totally forgot her twin grandson was in a cafe with her and he had to be retrieved by the staff as he was heading for the door to a fairly busy road.............

all these incidents would have been treated by a good skelp when I was small, but no one had a clue, ineffectual moans and in the case of the Granny, she said she lost him regularly as he had a tendancy to "wander off"

[Spent2much]

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My best friend has new neighbours and every morning at 1.30 2.30 their alarm clock goes off and they leave it for a whole hour, they can't sleep properly because of it and when the neighbour does get up for work he stands on the front smoking and chatting to his mates and they are really loud, I told my friend to complain because they have a right to sleep at night .

[nightwatch]

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where my mum lives in Manchester used to be lovely, every one knew each other, and if any of us kids caused a problem we wouldn't sit down for a week, they pulled down some towerblocks a few miles away and moved the 'people'from them in near my mum, in a matter of days gardens were trashed, rubbish was all over the place, and some of the older people where frightened to go out,
the ones that did complain were offered alternative housing, but most of them had lived there most of their lives and did'nt want to move, some new people moved into a house that backed onto mums garden and started throwing rubbish over in to her garden, we complained but the area manager tried to say that we had taken part of the new peoples garden.
I managed to find all the old photos of the garden and asked for her to call at mums to discuss the matter. she turned up with a map of the gardens and tried telling me that a pencil line drawn on the map proved that the garden belonged to the new people,
I went to town on the area manager, pointed out that the thirty year old pictures proved ownership, and told her in no uncertain terms that if she didn't stop the rubbish being dumped,I would go to the town hall and make a formal complaint about her deceit and disreguard of my mothers freedom to use her own garden, without the abuse from the neighbours,
she buckled, not only did she get the rubbish removed they put up 6ft high fencing and the new people were removed,

by the way P1 my nob ed is back !!!

[PriorityOne]

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No need to apologise for having a rant Handy.... rant away!!

I've found out a little more about our skanky friends over the past few days. Apparently the male skank pays people to do other people over. I was told that one of these people broke into a house and battered people in their beds at night when they were sleeping because one of them insulted him. He also mixes in circles that sells heroin and other hard drugs. Nice!

To be honest, I've thought about moving in recent months; not just because of this couple but because the area has slipped down the pan in a huge way in recent years. All the Government do is throw money at these people... and all they do in return is pop out more children to stay in the system and take more to fund a chav wannabe celebrity lifestyle. This couple rent a lovely 3-bed. bungalow paid through Housing Benefit.... and the reason they're permitted 3 bedrooms is because they have her kids for only 2 nights a week. .... but that hasn't stopped her from popping out another one, which is due in around two months.

We now have a serious feral underclass boom in this country. Police are powerless, teachers are powerless.... and both are governed by targets, which means they can't do the job(s) properly anyway. The warning signs were there about 20 years ago, around the same time as a host of ridiculous social disorders .... such as ADHD and ODD.... became medicalised as disabilities in this country so that feral parents no longer needed to take responsibility for the behaviour of their children; their children just couldn't help it, of course. Not only that... they got a nice chunk of DLA money by perpetuating those symptoms to various "specialists" in and out of schools.

Huge cohorts of feral people have developed no regard for the law through generations.... because the law has had to tread on eggshells for years to avoid offending them. So the behaviour continues, the harrassment of innocent people continues and at the end of it all, most of them are much better off financially than a lot of people could ever hope to be.... with no incentive to work whatsoever.

IMO, fecking Government(s) and do-gooders have collectively done more damage to this country than can be put right now. The new way of thinking is to try and "include" them into better areas, so that their behaviour and morals improve. That's the spin anyway. The truth is more likely to be that they just don't know what to do with their growing numbers anymore..... so they're now trying to spread them around.

I will get rid of these people from my neighbourhood. I know myself too well on that level and am not prepared to live next to scum like this indefinitely.