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  • #46
    Re: Spud's UE Diary

    Hi Spud
    Finally gotten round to reading your thread. I can see you are a bit like me, want to have a list of arguments lined up just in case. I have various bits n bobs for most of them, bad DN's (once they are sold on it's quite difficult for them to fix that) some have said they do not have the original.
    I sent one a letter entitled Dear fuckwits and said make me bankrupt, not heard for nearly a year. High risk strategy but if BR is an option and you have no assets then worth a try.

    Good luck in all of it

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    • #47
      Re: Spud's UE Diary

      Thanks - I appreciate it

      Im just too damn cautious..... Thats my problem

      I'm 100% behing UE though..... Just got to research it all through first
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      • #48
        Re: Spud's UE Diary

        Originally posted by Spud View Post
        Thanks - I appreciate it

        Im just too damn cautious..... Thats my problem

        I'm 100% behing UE though..... Just got to research it all through first
        Fully understand your feelings, with us it was years of being terrorised by the dca and as i suffer panic and axiety i was reluctant to stop the payments, but after a few days on here and the confidence i gained from the support and reading the ue diaries, my hubby said 'DO IT ' we had a failing business and were not living any sort of life we were just paying bills and being under stress because of our situation ,so our conclusion was to go for it, we didn't care if lost the house at point as we were just in such a mess we just thought 'what the heck'.

        Seven months on and all our debts are coming back ue , still waiting on some ,but the feeling of being back in control and not stressing and living in fear of dca has improved our health 100%.
        Our business is improving and hubby took on another job on an evening .

        At first it was scary , but you can only get so many 'pay up or we will hack your legs off' letters and then it just goes over your head and your attitude changes from to

        If i can do it anyone can
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        • #49
          Re: Spud's UE Diary

          Just a quick question good people of AAD....

          A couple of creditors keep asking me to complete and send in an I & E form.

          Now I did send them an I&E form some time ago showing that I have Nil disposable income and am effectivley making payments towards these accounts out of my very small groceries budget.

          I have ignored their request for now but should I continue to ignore.... Especially As I will be stopping payments now or should I send it in to them to show that actually, I cannot even really afford the £1.00 pcm token payment and they could clearly see that it would be hopeless taking me to court ect as I dont have the money to repay them?

          Any thoughts?
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          • #50
            Re: Spud's UE Diary

            Originally posted by Spud View Post
            Just a quick question good people of AAD....

            A couple of creditors keep asking me to complete and send in an I & E form.

            Now I did send them an I&E form some time ago showing that I have Nil disposable income and am effectivley making payments towards these accounts out of my very small groceries budget.

            I have ignored their request for now but should I continue to ignore.... Especially As I will be stopping payments now or should I send it in to them to show that actually, I cannot even really afford the £1.00 pcm token payment and they could clearly see that it would be hopeless taking me to court ect as I dont have the money to repay them?

            Any thoughts?
            Only a court can order you to fill out a I&E form , so if it were me I would ignore thier request.....
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            • #51
              Re: Spud's UE Diary

              Was in the same boat in the autumn and took us a while to get our head round that we have played their game and it got us nowhere, just got them richer.

              Now we dont engage with them except when we have to and seeing as only a court can demand that information we just ignore it now.

              And guess what. The sky didnt fall in. Well it did in Russia yesterday but I doubt even a DCA could fib so much as to say that was them that did that to you.

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              • #52
                Re: Spud's UE Diary

                If it were me , i would stop the token payments and ignore their request .

                Stopping payments always feels like the wrong thing to do but once you take the step you actually feel more in control and not the creditors controlling you
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                • #53
                  Re: Spud's UE Diary

                  Thanks Deepie

                  I have read in previous UE diaries that the general advice was to ignore them regarding I&E requests so I thought that would be the way to go.

                  The creditors are still adding interest ect at the moment and have refused to stop... Despite me writing them some "nice" letters (In the past) asking them to stop as a growing balance is counterproductive for all concerned. But in their wisdom they have not stopped.

                  I am going to add up all the interest and charges (Overlimit fees/Missed payment fees) since informing them that my circumstances have changed - I bet it would add up to quite a bit on each account by now!

                  Is there a way in which I could look at getting them to refund those fees.... Given the circumstances?

                  The £12.00 overlimit fee ect is the newer "Fairer" amount but when could it be argued that it is unfair to keep piling on the fees with no end in sight? I suppose if this ever made it to court you could ask for these continued fees to be taken into account so at least the balance would be lower?

                  Could they not then argue that you failed to send us a new I &E sheet?

                  I shall ignore their letters asking for the I &E then ..... Filed
                  Last edited by Spud; 16 February 2013, 16:23.
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                  • #54
                    Re: Spud's UE Diary

                    Sorry Ken & Spent2much

                    Dont worry.... The payments are now stopping as of this month

                    I will be ignoring their letter regarding this

                    just checking where the land lies
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                    • #55
                      Re: Spud's UE Diary

                      Think with the £12 fees your only way to get them back now is being able to get them to agree hardship.

                      But as you quite rightly say if you aint giving them the information they aint going to just agree that u have your back to the wall.

                      But I would of thought most accounts they can spot as they are starting to go wrong. When the customer is in dire straights and struggling. And doubt they need the customer to even tell them.

                      But what do they do to help struggling customers. Oh yeah put up the interest rates normally so from just being able to cope they push you over and then probably instead of just one account being a bit iffy so many of us suffer financial meltdown trying to crawl back out of the hole the banks have dug for us.

                      Hence why get defaulted. Its going to happen so why put it off. And the positive is nearly all will stop the interest and charges.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Spud's UE Diary

                        Originally posted by Spud View Post
                        Sorry Ken & Spent2much

                        Dont worry.... The payments are now stopping as of this month

                        I will be ignoring their letter regarding this

                        just checking where the land lies

                        well done!! . Also don't worry about the interest and charges because when/if they come back ue then they won't be getting anything anyway

                        If any come back enforceable you will be guided on here on how to blag them so still won't be paying , but lets keep our fingers crossed that they are come back ue
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                        • #57
                          Re: Spud's UE Diary

                          Too true..... There I go again, Thinking too much !!!

                          I just like to have the full picture in my mind and all the arguments down on paper

                          I know !!!!
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                          • #58
                            Re: Spud's UE Diary

                            Originally posted by Spud View Post
                            Too true..... There I go again, Thinking too much !!!

                            I just like to have the full picture in my mind and all the arguments down on paper

                            I know !!!!

                            Just like we used to be, but like i said we got sick of being controlled by the dca and decided enough was enough, you need to be back in control and when you show them that you are , then that is the biggest weapon you have against them , just looked through your diary and yours are looking to be ue so stop worrying your already back in control there , now you just sit back and see what happens and you will be given some great help on here as you have already seen , in a few months you will thiking , how did i let those morons cause me so much stress
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                            • #59
                              Re: Spud's UE Diary

                              Well B/Card CCA's are well past the 14 day stage now

                              What nice people they are.... They sent me a nice letter for each account/Request - From different people!

                              One was a short to the point Template letter acknowledging my request....

                              The second was a longer possibly human generated letter acknowledging my request

                              I can just imagine them in the basement now, Dark, Damp and dimly lit.... Rummaging through all the CCA's

                              Then if they draw a blank by lunch time..... Off to the Blue Peter office up on level 3 where they keep the scissors
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                              • #60
                                Re: Spud's UE Diary

                                Originally posted by Spud View Post
                                Well B/Card CCA's are well past the 14 day stage now

                                I can just imagine them in the basement now, Dark, Damp and dimly lit.... Rummaging through all the CCA's

                                Then if they draw a blank by lunch time..... Off to the Blue Peter office up on level 3 where they keep the scissors
                                I've been waiting 18 months for mine. I hope there wasn't a cave-in down the cellar...........

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