Where is Cameron

[LooLoo]

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Where's Cameron you ask....

[jen_br]

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Where's Cameron you ask....

[CleverClogs (RIP)]

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I can think of several Training Camps which are only used periodically. Back in the first Gulf War, some of these had the Security Fences beefed up. Not to keep people out but to keep people in. This was a contingency in case certain Ethnic Minorities objected to what we were doing to their country and required interning for the duration.

It was even rumored that the TA (I was one in those days) would be called up to guard them?

At least this option whilst frowned on by some would stop re-offending.

A better option would be to use some of the Thames forts/anti-aircraft platforms from WW2, or any surplus drilling platforms; if they are incarcerated out at sea, they'd not really need to be guarded.

Failing that, there are numerous shafts and tunnels dug in various parts of London for the Underground that were either abandoned or never used; some of those would make excellent oubliettes in which to lock the looters.

As one Yob said on the news this morning "what they gonna do, give me an ASBO?".

He also said that it would be his first offence.

The trick would be to ensure it was his last.

[CleverClogs (RIP)]

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I can give a good example here, my mate is from SA - driving home one night, he seen the first car overtake, then the second pull up behind with the third trying to get into the box position...... He manoeuvred and shot off down a side street - just avoiding the stop junction ahead.

Yep, you gott-it.... almost got carjacked.

That was why a Sarth Effrican invented a possible deterrent:

Do you suppose it might work?

Had he not been quick off the mark (and a brit in SA) I do think they'd have been carjacked and possibly killed that night - thus they returned to the UK sharpish....

Point is, until you're put in that position, we can all sit here and say don't do this, or even do do that - but as he says, he'd have died that night before letting them access his keys - BUT, would he really of?

He might not have been lucky enough to have been offered that choice.

[Handyman]

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I heard something about it on the BBC Home Service news.


Whereas, in Georgian days, he would have been sentenced to be hanged if the goods stolen were worth more than a shilling; if he was lucky, he might have been transported to the colonies instead.


Own goal, surely?


Rather than going out again tonight to steal even more?


Do you believe that army barracks would provide adequate - or adequately secure - accommodation for several hundred yobs?

Hi CC, thanks for the correction. I did mean to say "OWN GOAL"

I can think of several Training Camps which are only used periodically. Back in the first Gulf War, some of these had the Security Fences beefed up. Not to keep people out but to keep people in. This was a contingency in case certain Ethnic Minorities objected to what we were doing to their country and required interning for the duration.

It was even rumored that the TA (I was one in those days) would be called up to guard them?

At least this option whilst frowned on by some would stop re-offending.

As one Yob said on the news this morning "what they gonna do, give me an ASBO?".

Regards, Handy

[Never-In-Doubt]

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Or, if one stops the car, there is a real risk that the mob might turn the car over and set fire to it - with the occupant(s) inside!

haha - wouldn't surprise me with some of the idiots out there.....

[CleverClogs (RIP)]

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Why the hell stop the car and get out to risk being harmed, if you plough through one of them, the rest will soon move - they'll think you're a crazy white bird or they'll think sod that - in any case, you can drive away, ring the police and formally report the fact that you panicked and ploughed into a group of ruffians that were out to carjack you.

Or, if one stops the car, there is a real risk that the mob might turn the car over and set fire to it - with the occupant(s) inside!

[CleverClogs (RIP)]

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Did anyone see the report on the Magistrates courts,

I heard something about it on the BBC Home Service news.

apparently in London only 1 person has been dealt with today, sentence 1 day in prison for stealing 2 T Shirts, released immediately because of the time he had spent in custody.

Whereas, in Georgian days, he would have been sentenced to be hanged if the goods stolen were worth more than a shilling; if he was lucky, he might have been transported to the colonies instead.

All the others have been released on bail to appear in Crown Court because the Magistrates have not got the powers to deal adequately enough with them.

Another Home Goal for the justice system,

Own goal, surely?

I wonder how many of these chavs will wait around for the summons to be served.

Rather than going out again tonight to steal even more?

There has to be enough empty Army Barracks (well all our Lads are Overseas at the moment) to hold them until the system sorts its self out.

Do you believe that army barracks would provide adequate - or adequately secure - accommodation for several hundred yobs?

[LooLoo]

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Haha good advice Nid...

the trouble is my number plate is very easy to remember - so I would be bricking it that they would come after me...

My mate just said to me that I must be careful as she knows I am a gobby cow who can be ahem prone to road rage on the best of days....

To be honest I think it has calmed down here now......... fingers crossed and hopefully I won't be in a situation that my car would be surrounded.

In SA if is really bad isn't it? I've some some videos on police shows - they really are mad over there!

[confused76]

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i think my natural instinct would be to put my foot down, rightly or wrongly, but i don't think you'd know how you'd react until in that situation x

[Never-In-Doubt]

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I keep thinking I would just hand over my keys - but I have a feeling that I wouldn't it would be natural to say NO....... scarey

Of course, why would you stop and get out when the alternative would be to put your foot down and plough them over? Sorry, rightly or wrongly if it is a case of give up or put up, I'd always put up.

Why the hell stop the car and get out to risk being harmed, if you plough through one of them, the rest will soon move - they'll think you're a crazy white bird or they'll think sod that - in any case, you can drive away, ring the police and formally report the fact that you panicked and ploughed into a group of ruffians that were out to carjack you.

Thats assuming they ever went to the police and tried to complain that they surrounded your car, to ask for directions of course

[Never-In-Doubt]

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PS don't think anyone is bickering I was just saying what would i do if my car was surrounded??!

Not aimed at you, no need to mention names - it is glaringly obvious!

[LooLoo]

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I can give a good example here, my mate is from SA - driving home one night, he seen the first car overtake, then the second pull up behind with the third trying to get into the box position...... He manoeuvred and shot off down a side street - just avoiding the stop junction ahead.

Yep, you gott-it.... almost got carjacked.

Had he not been quick off the mark (and a brit in SA) I do think they'd have been carjacked and possibly killed that night - thus they returned to the UK sharpish....

Point is, until you're put in that position, we can all sit here and say don't do this, or even do do that - but as he says, he'd have died that night before letting them access his keys - BUT, would he really of?

For those that follow such crimes, its usual for you to get shot/killed/raped in such occurrences so think about it before saying "no, you'd just give up" - most wouldn't.....

I keep thinking I would just hand over my keys - but I have a feeling that I wouldn't it would be natural to say NO....... scarey

)

PS don't think anyone is bickering I was just saying what would i do if my car was surrounded??!

[Never-In-Doubt]

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And for the last time, stop the bickering.

[Never-In-Doubt]

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well here is a thought....... if i was driving home...... and my car was surrounded - what the hell would i do?

i think until we know the full story on everythign that has gone on there is not much we can say.

I can give a good example here, my mate is from SA - driving home one night, he seen the first car overtake, then the second pull up behind with the third trying to get into the box position...... He manoeuvred and shot off down a side street - just avoiding the stop junction ahead.

Yep, you gott-it.... almost got carjacked.

Had he not been quick off the mark (and a brit in SA) I do think they'd have been carjacked and possibly killed that night - thus they returned to the UK sharpish....

Point is, until you're put in that position, we can all sit here and say don't do this, or even do do that - but as he says, he'd have died that night before letting them access his keys - BUT, would he really of?

For those that follow such crimes, its usual for you to get shot/killed/raped in such occurrences so think about it before saying "no, you'd just give up" - most wouldn't.....