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  • garlok
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    Hi Handy,

    I was chatting with big bruzz about it last night and he said that magistrates have had their powers trimmed and trimmed and trimmed over the years until their maximum powers relate to burglary and then they can only give a 6 month sentence. However the Crown Court has the power to lock the little buggers up for 10 years for looting.

    Never mind them having the comfortable warm barracks that our lads normally use, how about the old hutted and spider camps we had to use in the sixties. There is an awful place in the middle of Salisbury Plain, barbed wire the lot (not Imber by the way) that was used by the Intelligence Corps for resistance to interrogation training. Miles from anywhere, bleak and forbidding is not strong enough. Set up an MCTC regime there and stuff 'em in there for at least two years. They will not want a second dose of that.

    Then put in them in the Land Army as I suggested for the next five years. If they then cannot behave like decent human beings either deport them immediately to where they came from without any appeal or rid society of them altogether.

    Most people who went to Borstal did not want a return to that.

    regards
    Garlok

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  • confused76
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    Originally posted by in 2 deep View Post
    They should send them all to Afghanistan , and let all our troops come home
    they'd be useless! no backbone between them!

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  • Deepie
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
    Just watched the lunchtime news. The 3 men killed were part of a group protecting their homes and business's. It was a Hit and Run attack, the car did not stop.

    It just gets crazy'er. I didn't know the health cuts meant leaving the asylum unlocked.

    There was no mention on the report I watched if they had got anyone for the attack yet.

    Did anyone see the report on the Magistrates courts, apparently in London only 1 person has been dealt with today, sentence 1 day in prison for stealing 2 T Shirts, released immediately because of the time he had spent in custody. All the others have been released on bail to appear in Crown Court because the Magistrates have not got the powers to deal adequately enough with them.

    Another Home Goal for the justice system, I wonder how many of these chavs will wait around for the summons to be served.

    There has to be enough empty Army Barracks (well all our Lads are Overseas at the moment) to hold them until the system sorts its self out.

    Regards all, Handy.
    They should send them all to Afghanistan , and let all our troops come home

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  • LooLoo
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
    The story is still unclear. In a circumstance where your car is surrounded everyone of us would act differently. Until it happens to you you won't know.

    The best way of keeping out of trouble is to avoid it if at all possible.

    If you think you are getting into a trouble spot, Drive Defensivly.

    That is to say leave a car length between you and the car in front so you have room to manuever. Likewise try to time your approach to lights and junctions so you remain stationary for the least amount of time. Keep your doors locked and windows shut, and don't stop too close to the kerb.

    If all else fails keep your car moving (slowly) don't panic but use the car to push the crowd out of the way, then when you are clear of obstruction Golf Lima Foxtrot till you are out of the trouble.

    Regards, Handy

    Thanks Handy

    you don't need to tell me to keep me doors locked - you forget i drive through the ghetto every day hahahaha. i just do it out of habbit now everytime i get in the car

    xx

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  • Handyman
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    Just watched the lunchtime news. The 3 men killed were part of a group protecting their homes and business's. It was a Hit and Run attack, the car did not stop.

    It just gets crazy'er. I didn't know the health cuts meant leaving the asylum unlocked.

    There was no mention on the report I watched if they had got anyone for the attack yet.

    Did anyone see the report on the Magistrates courts, apparently in London only 1 person has been dealt with today, sentence 1 day in prison for stealing 2 T Shirts, released immediately because of the time he had spent in custody. All the others have been released on bail to appear in Crown Court because the Magistrates have not got the powers to deal adequately enough with them.

    Another Home Goal for the justice system, I wonder how many of these chavs will wait around for the summons to be served.

    There has to be enough empty Army Barracks (well all our Lads are Overseas at the moment) to hold them until the system sorts its self out.

    Regards all, Handy.

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by LooLoo View Post
    well here is a thought....... if i was driving home...... and my car was surrounded - what the hell would i do?

    i think until we know the full story on everythign that has gone on there is not much we can say.
    The story is still unclear. In a circumstance where your car is surrounded everyone of us would act differently. Until it happens to you you won't know.

    The best way of keeping out of trouble is to avoid it if at all possible.

    If you think you are getting into a trouble spot, Drive Defensivly.

    That is to say leave a car length between you and the car in front so you have room to manuever. Likewise try to time your approach to lights and junctions so you remain stationary for the least amount of time. Keep your doors locked and windows shut, and don't stop too close to the kerb.

    If all else fails keep your car moving (slowly) don't panic but use the car to push the crowd out of the way, then when you are clear of obstruction Golf Lima Foxtrot till you are out of the trouble.

    Regards, Handy

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  • LooLoo
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    well here is a thought....... if i was driving home...... and my car was surrounded - what the hell would i do?

    i think until we know the full story on everythign that has gone on there is not much we can say.

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  • diddlydee
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    No CC, I am not condoning any murder.

    I was (light-heartedly!) suggesting that if she felt threatened by yobs on her way home, blocking her path and acting in a threatening manner she could ram them out of the way in order to proceed on her journey.

    I was not suggesting for one moment that she drive her car at anyone that happened to be walking along the road who served no threat to her at all.

    But then, you are clever, so you know that!

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  • CleverClogs (RIP)
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    Originally posted by diddlydee View Post
    From what I've read locally, it is alleged that the men killed were not rioters but local men trying to protect their area.

    Somewhat of a reversal on my suggestion!
    No, not at all. This was a case of a motor car apparently having been driven deliberately at/into a group of pedestrians, which is what you advocated doing if Looloo had been confronted with rioters.

    Or are you trying to argue that some murders are acceptable whereas others are not?

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  • CleverClogs (RIP)
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    Originally posted by alland View Post
    Is this what Cameron meant by.... Rioters will face the full force of the law....probably not......unfortunately !
    As such an assault could be lethal, one would certainly hope that nobody would misuse a riot shield in such a manner.

    It would help nobody if policemen were to start killing suspected rioters.

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  • garlok
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    Yeh Handy you and me both. When I took a young thug who had killed his mate with a bayonet over a Mombasa prostitute, Ian Hendry type of the film "The Hill" infamy complete with "slashed" peak appeared, and it was "Prisoner and Escort at the double!" Mind you he doubled as well. A very very salutory experience.

    regards
    Garlok

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  • CleverClogs (RIP)
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    Originally posted by LooLoo View Post
    I think the most trouble we had in London last night was from the vigalantes.... In Eltham the Lovely EDL were out force...
    No doubt intent on protecting native, white rioters from Asian shopkeepers?

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  • diddlydee
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    From what I've read locally, it is alleged that the men killed were not rioters but local men trying to protect their area.

    Somewhat of a reversal on my suggestion!

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  • CleverClogs (RIP)
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    Originally posted by diddlydee View Post
    Good luck, Looloo.

    If all else fails, remember your car is insured against damage, so ram the buggers!!!
    I'm sure that Looloo didn't, but it seems someone may have done something like that.
    Murder inquiry after Birmingham pedestrians killed by driver

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  • Handyman
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    Hi Garlock, I can agree with your comment on Colchester. Having once been there. Not to stay but to deliver a poor chap who had got into a bit of bother in Germany. Me and my mate were glad to get the hell out of the place, we were bawled at and marched about and we were only on escort duty.

    If the Civie nicks were run along the same lines, these young hoodies would run a mile. Even Regimental Punishment was bad enough. (something Handy was an expert on )

    Regards all, Handy.

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