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  • 5corpio
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    "What is arithmetic?"

    British rioters the spawn of a bankrupt ruling elite.
    THE riots in London and elsewhere in Britain are a backhanded tribute to the long-term intellectual torpor, moral cowardice, incompetence and careerist opportunism of the British political and intellectual class.

    They have somehow managed not to notice what has long been apparent to anyone who has taken a short walk with his eyes open down any frequented British street: that a considerable proportion of the country's young population (a proportion that is declining) is ugly, aggressive, vicious, badly educated, uncouth and criminally inclined.

    Unfortunately, while it is totally lacking in self-respect, it is full of self-esteem: that is to say, it believes itself entitled to a high standard of living, and other things, without any effort on its own part.

    Consider for a moment the following: although youth unemployment in Britain is very high, that is to say about 20 per cent of those aged under 25, the country has had to import young foreign labour for a long time, even for unskilled work in the service sector.

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  • CleverClogs (RIP)
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    Originally posted by pompeyfaith View Post
    Although Cameron said he would relax the law on self-defence and make it easier for citizens to protect there family, home and belongings the definition of self defence still remains what worries me is what exactly would be defined as self defence in a court of law because the way I see it would be very easy without clarification to cross the fence.

    This needs defining so us lawful citizens know exactly what we can and what we cant do.
    Simple - don't shoot the buggers in the back, as Tony Martin did.

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  • pompeyfaith
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    This petition is now back up and working and it has exceeded the government threshold by 12,000 + thus far

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

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  • pompeyfaith
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    charity,

    Exactly so you would not know your actions would be classed as self defence until many months later when it goes to court.

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  • charitynjw
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    I think it is 'reasonable force' - exactly what is classed as 'reasonable' would depend on the individual case, & it would be for the court to decide according to the evidence presented.

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  • pompeyfaith
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    Handy,

    Although Cameron said he would relax the law on self-defence and make it easier for citizens to protect there family, home and belongings the definition of self defence still remains what worries me is what exactly would be defined as self defence in a court of law because the way I see it would be very easy without clarification to cross the fence.

    This needs defining so us lawful citizens know exactly what we can and what we cant do.

    Regards

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
    Defense of Others (an off-shoot of self-defense) is permissible in law.
    Thanks Charity, I hoped this was the case, not that I intend dusting off my baseball bat anytime soon.

    Regards, Handy.

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  • charitynjw
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
    I have just watched the last few minutes of question time. After a lot of Bull Shine when asked about Vigilantes several of the panel agreed that an Individual should be able to protect their Property and Family. The Arch Bishop of York John Sentamu, when asked what he would do if a mob attacked his house said he has a Cricket Bat and would hit them Hard. This they said would be classed as Self Defense.

    They all agreed the last thing they want are Mobs on the streets looking for trouble. ( I agree).

    The question I pose is how would the law treat me if a mob began to attack a neighbor who could not defend themselves, and I dived in Baseball bat swinging and dented a few heads while I saved my neighbor and his property. Would this be classed as Self Defense or Vigilante'ism.

    I just wonder'd how you think the courts would view this.

    Regards all, Handy
    Defense of Others (an off-shoot of self-defense) is permissible in law.

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  • Handyman
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    I have just watched the last few minutes of question time. After a lot of Bull Shine when asked about Vigilantes several of the panel agreed that an Individual should be able to protect their Property and Family. The Arch Bishop of York John Sentamu, when asked what he would do if a mob attacked his house said he has a Cricket Bat and would hit them Hard. This they said would be classed as Self Defense.

    They all agreed the last thing they want are Mobs on the streets looking for trouble. ( I agree).

    The question I pose is how would the law treat me if a mob began to attack a neighbor who could not defend themselves, and I dived in Baseball bat swinging and dented a few heads while I saved my neighbor and his property. Would this be classed as Self Defense or Vigilante'ism.

    I just wonder'd how you think the courts would view this.

    Regards all, Handy

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by Handyman View Post


    DIY Lynching Kit. Can be ordered with the title Politician, Journalist or Chav.

    Regards, Handy

    Bridport, an Anglo-Saxon town made famous by its rope making is the largest town in West Dorset. Such was the fame of Bridport rope that those who ended their days on the gallows were said to have been 'stabbed by a Bridport dagger'. The town is still Britain's main source for twine.

    I believe the company that made the rope is still in existence?
    Now although I am passing on this information it is for amusement only because as much as we would like to see some folks strung up, it ain't going to happen. But it make me does make me feel better about whats happening to our Country.

    I hold out the same hope as the current bunch of wallies sorting out the Countries problems as I do of winning Euro Millions.

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by pompeyfaith View Post
    Handy,

    I watched nearly all of that today (I know sad aint it lol) at the start when the PM was addressing the MP's on the latests events and his plans for a way forward regarding the riots etc the commons was full to the brim with a few having to sit on the floor, however when that was over and the chancellor stood up to talk about the economy many of those MP's left to get on with there holidays lol

    Regards
    Missed that bit cos normally I really am not that interested as I tar them all with the same brush. But that sounds about right as soon as the main event is over the majority will run for the doors. Besides most of the Conservatives will be in Bonnie Jockland tomorrow, after all tomorrow is the Glorious 12th.

    I bet there are one or two who mutter under their breath as another Grouse hits the Heather, There goes another Chav.

    Regards, Handy

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  • pompeyfaith
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    Must find better things to occupy my mind lol

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  • diddlydee
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    The video of the day is available here http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Pl...meetingId=8926 but I am not able to find a list of attendees?

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  • pompeyfaith
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    Handy,

    I watched nearly all of that today (I know sad aint it lol) at the start when the PM was addressing the MP's on the latests events and his plans for a way forward regarding the riots etc the commons was full to the brim with a few having to sit on the floor, however when that was over and the chancellor stood up to talk about the economy many of those MP's left to get on with there holidays lol

    Regards
    Last edited by pompeyfaith; 11 August 2011, 21:44.

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  • Handyman
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    Originally posted by pompeyfaith View Post
    Handy,

    That is excellent and I have the ideal model in the name of Martin Lewis

    Regards
    Hi Pompey, I must admit I did have a similar thought but Handy doesn't want to mock the afflicted (those with political ambition)

    Can I pose a question? I have just watched the Beeb news In some of the debates today the Chamber of the House of Commons had a lot of empty seats, I thought the whole of Parliament had been recalled? is there anyway I can find out who of the
    Had a note from Mummy, Nanny or other allowing them not to attend. I bet Cromwell wetwind our local MP had to nip round to Rothchilds to make tea for the board of Directors like he normally does.

    Regards, Handy

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