Common Faults website??

[di30]

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Hi Di, you can do a pressure test on the hydraulics but this in't usually done. Normally if there is a leak it's visible and in the Master Cylinder seals are on their way out a few pumps of the pedal and the problem improves so that's an easy tell tale sign.

If it was the release bearing, I think most garages would advice you to replace the clutch assembly at the same time unless it looks pristine as the work involved in getting to the bearing is exactly the same as for a full replacement. To change the lot would probably only take an extra 20 minutes or so.

Sounds like a fast swop is in order.

Would you like my old people carrier, I will give you a warranty
10 Miles or 10 Minutes which ever comes first.

That's why it hasn't gone yet, too honest by far I am.

Regards, Handy

Thank you for this Handy, and that does make sense with what you said.
Although we could not tell, we don't think there is a leak anywhere, but with not being able to get to it properly it's difficult to say at this point.

There was one middle aged disabled owner before we had this car, we traded in our Subaru back in 2010 for this car, and the mileage now stands at almost 51K, not bad for a 2006 year Diesel I don't think and there is no clutch riding lol, or clumsiness driving should I say to have caused this lmao, so did wonder if because the fluid was literally black on bleeding, could this have caused some damage to the bearing perhaps?
Just wondered really.
The car itself is spanking/mint, and engine still looks brand new, but yeah maybe a swop is in order, and soon too the way it's going lol.

pmsl Handy

Cheers.

[di30]

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Ok strong suspicions that it's the flywheel, been given a quote from Fords with my in law's discount just under £600 with labour, that includes changing the clutch and bearings as well, about 4 hours work approx, so ok we could have done without it, but we can't leave it either.

My in law from Fords called in from work earlier and said he is actually doing one exactly the same as ours in work today, exactly the same symptoms as ours.

Better safe than sorry me thinks, and despite his diagnosis, it will be checked in the Ford's garage this week, and if they do come across another issue instead of the above, he said it will or should be less, the above is the most we will pay.

[Handyman]

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Mucky Hydraulic fluid is a worry. It doesn't come into contact with any of the other parts as it is a sealed system. It sounds like it has been contaminated. With the mileage your car has done it seems to me like it's worth spending a few quid.

When the fluid gets black it could be the seals breaking down. Although your car has a dual reservoir for the clutch and brakes they are internally separated. The brakes are also dual circuit which means you could lose the front brakes and the rear would still work and vice versa.

These days most Brake / Clutch fluid is universal so I don't think that's the problem? could be the master cylinder seals are going, causing the dirty colour, but some fluids are dark green in colour so without seeing it myself who knows?

At least it's not the old Ford self adjusting cable clutch, now that was unreliable.

Lets see what the BIL and Garage come up with. It may not be as bad as you think.

I had a petrol leak on my car last week. OOO Sh1T. in the end it cost £12.00 and took 20 minutes (5 minutes was spent looking for a spanner ) Turns out a common problem with the fuel filter canister.

Keep us posted Di

Regards, Handy

[BBoo]

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Agreed Handy - see what those who can see it say. It could be oil contamination totally clutch unrelated, though this wouldn't account for the fluid.

With seals you'd expect a bit of leakage, but slave easier to see.

Hope you get a positive diagnosis Di. Remember, if you need parts, pm me and I'll ask my family member who works in the parts shop. He's not always cheaper, but I've been known to pay £4 for things selling in the shop for £20!

[di30]

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Mucky Hydraulic fluid is a worry. It doesn't come into contact with any of the other parts as it is a sealed system. It sounds like it has been contaminated. With the mileage your car has done it seems to me like it's worth spending a few quid.

When the fluid gets black it could be the seals breaking down. Although your car has a dual reservoir for the clutch and brakes they are internally separated. The brakes are also dual circuit which means you could lose the front brakes and the rear would still work and vice versa.

These days most Brake / Clutch fluid is universal so I don't think that's the problem? could be the master cylinder seals are going, causing the dirty colour, but some fluids are dark green in colour so without seeing it myself who knows?

At least it's not the old Ford self adjusting cable clutch, now that was unreliable.

Lets see what the BIL and Garage come up with. It may not be as bad as you think.

I had a petrol leak on my car last week. OOO Sh1T. in the end it cost £12.00 and took 20 minutes (5 minutes was spent looking for a spanner ) Turns out a common problem with the fuel filter canister.

Keep us posted Di

Regards, Handy

Cheers Handy.

Yes, well usually it's been a fantastic car, there's not a scratch on it, it's immaculate, we fill with diesel every few weeks, where with the Scooby-Subaru Impreza we were filling at twice a week, it was horrific. So on that side of things, we have saved money there, and as you will know the scoobies are also very costly to keep on the road, so with now having this one, and now having to spend on it, although still not that cheap, it's not costing us like it was with the Scooby.

I think it's worth getting what needs done done, and maybe change within a year or so, fingers crossed and touch wood (that means my head of course LOL), we will not come across other major issues, up to now all have been going well, just the general pad change was required just recently but that was it.

However, as hubby was pulling off tonight to go to work, the rattly noise appears to be getting more prominent, whether or not though that was because it was night time - where obviously we would notice more I don't know.

I shall keep you posted, thank you for all your help and advice etc.

Hey that would be a lovely surprise for me if mine ended up just being a few small quid lol .

Good job done Handy.

[di30]

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Agreed Handy - see what those who can see it say. It could be oil contamination totally clutch unrelated, though this wouldn't account for the fluid.

With seals you'd expect a bit of leakage, but slave easier to see.

Hope you get a positive diagnosis Di. Remember, if you need parts, pm me and I'll ask my family member who works in the parts shop. He's not always cheaper, but I've been known to pay £4 for things selling in the shop for £20!

Thank you BBoo.

I shall of course let you know, we appreciate it very much.

WOW sounds excellent and what a saving you have had, that is fab!

Cheers for that.

[Bricktop]

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With seals you'd expect a bit of leakage, but slave easier to see.

for info..

A lot of vehicles have the slave cylinder inside the bell housing now.

[di30]

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My bro in law should get back to us later on a day this week to take the car in to Fords.
The cost above was the quote yesterday, am double checking on that too.

[Handyman]

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for info..

A lot of vehicles have the slave cylinder inside the bell housing now.

Hey Bricktop, good to have your input Mate. Alland is away at the moment (one of the resident experts) and If you read my post my expertise is in Moggy thousands, Austin Sevens and Model T fords

Regards, Handy

[Bricktop]

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No worries, but I am not exactly young myself !

Got about 20 years experience working in main dealers mainly in the service and parts side of things, if I spot any quotes that look a bit on the high side I will give a nudge to the poster to get a 2nd opinion before committing to a job.

one thing for future reference....

The brakes are also dual circuit which means you could lose the front brakes and the rear would still work and vice versa.

Dual circuit brakes work on opposite corners, eg (front left/rear right) & (front right/rear left) that way if a brake hose fails the driver still has a reasonable brake operation without the risk of spinning the car, especially if travelling at speed.

[BBoo]

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Hey Bricktop, good to have your input Mate. Alland is away at the moment (one of the resident experts) and If you read my post my expertise is in Moggy thousands, Austin Sevens and Model T fords

Regards, Handy

Don't knock that, my first car was a 1958 Morris Minor. I wish I still had it, it was brilliant, just one year after they stopped doing the split windscreens, but still had the wing indicators on the side, and a crank handle for if the pull button didn't work.

It also had air conditioning - the windows came down by themselves as you drove along!

[Handyman]

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BBoo you beat me by one year. My first was a 1959 Mini. one of the first off the line. It had the starter button on the floor. It was only the numerous coats of hand applied paint that held it together. My Dad got it me for my 18th for 50 quid. I used to joke it was only 3 years younger than me.

I bought a 1967? MG 1100 to do up but ended up putting the engine and most of the running gear into the mini. I never got round to fastening the 1100 front seats to the floor of the mini. If you accelerated too fast they used to tip over. It did have its uses though. One day when giving my mum a lift to work, she asked me what the footprints were doing on the roof lining .

Tell you the collapsing seats were very useful when taking young ladies home from the disco

Happy Days

[Handyman]

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one thing for future reference....

Dual circuit brakes work on opposite corners, eg (front left/rear right) & (front right/rear left) that way if a brake hose fails the driver still has a reasonable brake operation without the risk of spinning the car, especially if travelling at speed.

Well you see what I mean, I'm hardly up to speed these days. The last major brake overhaul I did was on a series 2A Landrover some time ago. That didn't even have a brake servo fitted

The piece of RSJ that made up the front bumper was a great crumple zone because when the brakes failed anything you hit crumpled.

Seriously because you have a working knowledge of pricing your input will be invaluable when Folk come on here asking if they are being charged a fair price or if there is a cheaper way of getting the job done safely.

Many thanks, Handy

[Bricktop]

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I can also offer the dealerships point of view, sometimes as a main dealer you price a job up for someone and think to yourself

"fk me that's a lot of money"

If it's a regular service customer, then I see if I can discount the price down a bit for them, alternatively if they have been in my face previously then they are getting the full price quote.

It doesn't always pay to go in somewhere and kick off when you have a complaint, being calm and reasonable gets you just as much with the added bonus of not falling out with the person who controls the quotes for you in future !

[BBoo]

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Anything modern, it's important to know your limitations. Brakes, clutches, basic servicing are all still much the same (but not hydraulic clutches thanks!). Once you get into electronics and into the engine, while usually the parts are easy enough to change, the diagnosis is a swine without a computer.