Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

[Enforcer]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Called the Court in Cardiff just before Xmas, still no date for listing. But am still worrying and investigating what the CSA Tribunal can do. CSA have turned down all 3 of the applications for variation by parent no 3. I would still like to argue my case that they should have used the figures initially requested and supplied by my accountant (7 months figures for the "new" partnership). They have used "historical HRMC figures" my argument is that this is a new firm that has been formed.

Do we have an expert accountant on the forum? I need to understand the law on "Technical Dissolution of a Partnership" I have found an item that says "A technical dissolution takes place each time there is a change in the composition of the firm - ie., technically, the partnership is disolved each time one partner leaves (and is replaced by another), or a new partner joins. In such a case there will usually be no break in the business of the partnership with the "new" firm generally taking on the assets and liability of the "old"."

Is this actual accounting law?

[PlanB]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Accountant charged me £860 for preparing figures. Advised that I cannot claim this as a business expense.

Here's a radical suggestion. Why not deduct that money from your son's wages since he's the father of these kids? That should make him realize he has responsibilities.

I'm sorry you're having to deal with all this My 29 year old daughter still expects me to fix everything if that's any help.

[Sapphire]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

That's the trouble with family law, the only winners are the legal teams who make a fortune.

[Enforcer]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

This is dragging on. Still no date for 2nd Tribunal hearing. Accountant charged me £860 for preparing figures. Advised that I cannot claim this as a business expense.

[Enforcer]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Still waiting for a date for second hearing, wish they would hurry up so that we can just resolve it!

[PlanB]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Am I right in thinking you son's Tribunal hearing is any day now?

I hope you've got all your ammunition ready

[Enforcer]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

The only thing that I can think of is, did they do the initial assessment in accordance with the regulations? In my opinion, no. They should have used his share of the partnership profits and not hmrc figures. Case law on this.

[PlanB]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Received the submissions from csa to tribunal. Assets of more than £65000. Variation refused! Lifestyle that is inconsistent with the income he has declared to the child support agency. Variation refused! Diversion of income. The application was refused as there was no evidence of diversion in the decision under appeal!
This woman has changed her "evidence" so many times that it is unbelievable, she has applied under every circumstance for a variation.

Is this a victory for your son? Are you saying the CSA has refused Mum 3's application to vary because they don't accept her evidence?

In which case what is there left for the Tribunal to decide next month?

[Enforcer]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Looking through latest paperwork, to be added to the 411 pages already received. The CSA have done a credit check on my son through Experian. Cannot see why they need to do this?

[Enforcer]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Received the submissions from csa to tribunal. Assets of more than £65000. Variation refused! Lifestyle that is inconsistent with the income he has declared to the child support agency. Variation refused! Diversion of income. The application was refused as there was no evidence of diversion in the decision under appeal!
This woman has changed her "evidence" so many times that it is unbelievable, she has applied under every circumstance for a variation. I have not yet received the invoice from my accountant but it will run into hundreds of pounds. Just unbelievable that a woman on benefits can get away with so many lies. Will now await a date for 2nd hearing.

[Enforcer]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Yes this is first tier Social Security & Child Support Appeals. HM Courts & Tribunals Service.

[PlanB]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Call from csa yesterday,final rejection for variation by mum 3,She tried to give csa information from our bank accounts! Against csa rules to use this.

Maybe the CSA put pressure on her to justify her reasons for rejecting the application to vary?

Found tribunal rules and procedures.the judge can change appellant and respondent

Which Tribunal is dealing with this? Forgive my ignorance but is it the "Social Security and Child Support" Tribunal now known as the "First Tier Tribunal Social Entitlement Chamber"?

http://www.justice.gov.uk/tribunals/...nd-legislation

[Enforcer]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Found tribunal rules and procedures.the judge can change appellant and respondent.Still not sure why she did.Call from csa yesterday,final rejection for variation by mum 3,She tried to give csa information from our bank accounts! Against csa rules to use this.

[PlanB]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Thanks for your help.

If you want to send me a PM I can put you in touch with a resource for McKenzie Friends who are remarkably inexpensive. It might be worth giving them a shout. The website also answers legal questions online for free

It's a personal contact so I don't want to post it on the forum.

[Enforcer]

Re: Child Support Agency 2003 scheme Child Maintenance new scheme for cases after 25th Nov 2013

Thanks for your help.