Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

[midastouch]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

That is very much a british product and tradition that the cubans do not buy into, however you can get the best cigars in the world from cuba.

Bill Clinton agrees.

[peterbard]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

That is very much a british product and tradition that the cubans do not buy into, however you can get the best cigars in the world from cuba.

Indeed, rolled on the thighs of dusky maidens.
But you cant beat a good cup of tea.

[garlok]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

Ah PF the very best ones are rolled on the thighs of Cuban virgins or so they tell me!

regards
Garlok

[midastouch]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

Great minds think alike.

(or dirty ones anyway...)

[peterbard]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

Ah PF the very best ones are rolled on the thighs of Cuban virgins or so they tell me!

regards
Garlok

Probably why you cant get them here, lack of"rescources". We have i believe plenty of tobacco.

Peter

[pompeyfaith]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

Damocracy = Greed, look around you energy and commodity prices are rising way above inflation.

The general public just cannot afford it any longer as they are at the end of the rope as pay rises are not going up at the same level.

Look at the privatisation of the energy companies it was done to bring competition only that did not happen as they got together and still kept prices high and carry on inflating those prices.

We are heading for another winter of discontent with the strikes happening this is not getting better but worse with Virgin and southampton city council the latest to join the ranks.

[caspar]

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Your congratulations are missfouned , there have been many on here that have done what you describe way before my post..
I am sure i doint need to remind you that your opinin is biased by your experiances, as is mine, you say the FD is missplaced they would say otheerwise. The courts and by reflection us, the people, through our democratic system seem to agree with them.

Sorry

That has the ring of someone who's trying to dig themself out of a hole to me I'm afraid. The point I was making was that I agreed with you. You're right! It is what they would say. But, whether or not the courts agree with them, we are talking about morality, and morally they are wrong. That is not up for debate. No customers = no investors, simple as. Thus customers should, morally speaking, come first.

I don't deny they don't, I'm purely concerned with what is being debated here - the moral issue, and morally they are wrong.

As for our democracy, if we must be diverted from the thread's topic, I'm sure I do not need to remind you that in the last election the public could not make up their minds who they wanted in government so we have a coalition. Was that coalition democratically elected? No, it was debated purely among the politicians with the aid of the Civil Service (and since when have they been democratically elected?) Thus your argument is sadly flawed.

[caspar]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

Ah PF the very best ones are rolled on the thighs of Cuban virgins or so they tell me!

regards
Garlok

I'd like to make a comment, but I think I'd be barred for life! lol

[peterbard]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

Yes indeed, £65.5. i believe the government says that this is what a person requires to live on.

Idex linked of course, but to the cpi, not the faster rising and infinately more representative rpi.
Dont get me started
Peter

[peterbard]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

That has the ring of someone who's trying to dig themself out of a hole to me I'm afraid. The point I was making was that I agreed with you. You're right! It is what they would say. But, whether or not the courts agree with them, we are talking about morality, and morally they are wrong. That is not up for debate. No customers = no investors, simple as. Thus customers should, morally speaking, come first.

I don't deny they don't, I'm purely concerned with what is being debated here - the moral issue, and morally they are wrong.

As for our democracy, if we must be diverted from the thread's topic, I'm sure I do not need to remind you that in the last election the public could not make up their minds who they wanted in government so we have a coalition. Was that coalition democratically elected? No, it was debated purely among the politicians with the aid of the Civil Service (and since when have they been democratically elected?) Thus your argument is sadly flawed.

No dont think so , the way i read your point is that you are saying your view of the morality is the correct one and the courts is wrong.

Just pointing out that some may accept that our legal system has the right of it.
Hardly a radicle view

Peter

[Deepie]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

Ah PF the very best ones are rolled on the thighs of Cuban virgins or so they tell me!

regards
Garlok

That's some virgin

[oscar]

Re: Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

That's some virgin

I was going to say something else...... (lets just say must have been uncomfortable to sit down....)

[caspar]

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No dont think so , the way i read your point is that you are saying your view of the morality is the correct one and the courts is wrong.

Just pointing out that some may accept that our legal system has the right of it.
Hardly a radicle view

Peter

No, you misread what I am saying. I am taking the definition of morality and applying it to the debate here. It is not my view, it is the definition of the word. Sadly a word's definition cannot be wrong - it is what defines the word.

What I then go on to say is that the banks fiduciary duty is wrong. I don't give two hoots what the courts say about this, I believe the democratic public would vote with me on this one, not you.

[Never-In-Doubt]

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Oops - thought a smilie would come up.

edit by niddy - call it grin and it will

I'd like to make a comment, but I think I'd be barred for life! lol

go for it......

[Never-In-Doubt]

stay on topic

Guys lets stay on topic please.....

This doesn't relate to Cuba in any sense so lets not start going on about the Socialist / Communist side of things. Cuba is a Republican Communist state - i've been many times and constantly read and follow up on che guevara & Castro with their revolution (read the bay of pigs incident, very amusing as so typical of the Yanks/CIA)....

Basically they are now allowing more freedom and allowing people to start businesses and even allowing the USD in places... it is going through a transition since Fidel's illness has allowed Raul to change things, Raul was never as hard-core as Fidel thus things will slowly reform into more of a stable society.

Put simply, all Cubans live for free, they get rations and all bills paid for. They all earn around $40 USD per month to spend on whatever extra's they may need. They are not as poor as many think, yes some GP's earn less than waiters (with tips etc) but that is life - I used to earn more than a GP when all I done was sit at home - if you see my point!

Lets stick to morality within consumer credit and not spill out into another silly unnecessary debate for ego's!

:niddy