P800 Tax Calculation help

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

She rang and this time told they were literally dealing with the matter (so they must have the information), she mentioned the forms, but the lady was not sure what forms she was on about because she said they already have the information she sent.

So I also think it was that one mentioned above post, what we said about.
She said the lady she spoke to asked for her phone number in case they need to ring her for any further info (so it does look like they are literally dealing with it do you think)?

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

ah yeah maybe he got confused with that form.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

This is the level of stupidity i have to deal with on a daily basis Di.

He cant tell her what forms were sent, and wont send any more because the first havent been sent back? does that make sense to you?

I have no idea what forms they have sent her, if he had gave her an indication or even the form number code i could have sent you blank ones myself, but other than that i have no clue.

Best thing to do is ask her to ring back and speak to someone else, expain they never came, and needs sending again, if they refuse, ask them which forms were sent, and then ill sort it for her, if they cant even tell her that, ask to speak to his superior.

Hi and thanks, sorry I got that wrong, that was meant to be that they will "now" and not "not" send further forms, my slip up.
She said she could not understand him, but intends to give another ring, because the one she sent back was the one to say she didnt agree or something like that, think I posted a copy on here somewhere back in December time.

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

This is the level of stupidity i have to deal with on a daily basis Di.

He cant tell her what forms were sent, and wont send any more because the first havent been sent back? does that make sense to you?

I have no idea what forms they have sent her, if he had gave her an indication or even the form number code i could have sent you blank ones myself, but other than that i have no clue.

Best thing to do is ask her to ring back and speak to someone else, expain they never came, and needs sending again, if they refuse, ask them which forms were sent, and then ill sort it for her, if they cant even tell her that, ask to speak to his superior.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

Right a bit of an update.

Ju said she contacted tax office a few weeks ago and was told they were on to it (not that it means they were dealing with it though I don't think), well anyway, she said she contacted them after work today and they said they sent forms in the post months ago, but she said she not received any forms, only the new tax coding notice and the letter(Details) posted on here back in December. And that she send details back in the post, but the guy she spoke to, said all he could see on the system was that they sent forms in the post and will not send more as they not received them back from her.

So she is not sure what forms they meant, so any ideas please?
Cheers.

[di30]

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hmm naughty lol

Well if his p45 is dated january, then he will no doubt get a new coding as his payments up to april are probably wrong.

When the company file the P14's for last year, (by may 19th) then HMRC will know he works for them, so that will be sorted either way.

P45 wont count towards this year now, only up to 5th April, so they will continue to code him the normal way until they get told any different.

LOl yep very naughty I think!

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

hmm naughty lol

Well if his p45 is dated january, then he will no doubt get a new coding as his payments up to april are probably wrong.

When the company file the P14's for last year, (by may 19th) then HMRC will know he works for them, so that will be sorted either way.

P45 wont count towards this year now, only up to 5th April, so they will continue to code him the normal way until they get told any different.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

That company she works for are useless, but told her they will start to apply the code for this week in this weeks pay for last week, damn useless they are.

This goes to show that we do think it's the employer, apparentely a guy started with her in January, so that was 3 months or so ago, and he received a new coding notice from the tax office recently but it said they will let the employer know (but it was his last employer name/details), so he contacted the tax office and the tax office told him that they have had no details at all about him starting with this job where my friend works in January, yet he confirmed he handed in his P45 from his last employer as well!!!!

Well in your opinion what does that say??? hmmm well yes damn employer!!

[SXGuy]

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yep, the extra tax would be split over a shorter period if they wait too long, so it needs sorting sooner rather than later.

[di30]

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Yep the fact they didnt do the right thing at the start and now not using the code, just proves really in my opinion it's down to her employer.

Not heard from her since, but I do know she was to take a copy of her coding notice in to her employer and bring this up, because the longer they leave to use it, then when they finally use it they will only have to deduct before.

[SXGuy]

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I agree. I have problems where the employer fails to send me information relating to employees on time and as a result errors happen which need correcting.

If they use an agent like me, mistakes can happen for that reason, but ultimately its down to her employer to provide the info on time. So its still them that are useless.

[di30]

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Oh hang on Di

Just looked at it, yes its a coding notice for this year, not the last

So her tax code IS wrong.

It should be 881 not 944

Get her to shove it in her employers face with the payslip.

Techincally an employer can only act if they receive a letter direct from HMRC, but i cant see why they wouldnt have got one if she did.

Okey dokie, thank you

They sound useless to me her employer, she said they always mess up, and she found out the same thing's happened with others as well who started the job the same time as her, so that tell's me it is down to them and not the HMRC.

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

Oh hang on Di

Just looked at it, yes its a coding notice for this year, not the last

So her tax code IS wrong.

It should be 881 not 944

Get her to shove it in her employers face with the payslip.

Techincally an employer can only act if they receive a letter direct from HMRC, but i cant see why they wouldnt have got one if she did.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

Oh right ok thanks, will let her know.

I posted up the code notice on post number 119, so she should have had another from there then?

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

No it can mean a number of things.

When 881 was given to her early this year, it would have been in the form of a tax coding notice given to her employer, this notice would state the year to which it relates to. If it said up to 5th April 13, then she would be taxed on that code to that date.

HMRC should then have sent a further tax coding notice relating to the new year, stating her new tax code up to 5th April 14.

If an employer does not receive this, he must put his employee on full allowances i.e 944L until a tax coding notice is issued.

Or

Her employer is a dimwit and has received a tax coding notice but failed to use it.

Either way, she should ask, if they have recieved a tax coding notice for this year yet or not, and if yes, is she on the right coding.

If they say no, then she does nothing until HMRC contact them with a new tax code.

either way, 881 stops on last payslip before 5th April, and 944L or any other code issued starts on or after 6th April.