Citi financial
I know it’s a waiting game
Updates
22/12/17
was only thinking yesterday how quiet it has been. A “true” copy of Agreement bent sent today. Even though my address is there the agreement could be for anything. I could be wrong but I will send to niddy after the festivities. Merry crimbo
29/01/18
Niddy says its . 1st Credit have been in touch expecting to be paid! I would imagine letters and phone calls will start as I am not paying. Any ideas what I do next I don't have the stomach waiting for 6 year statue barred.
Hi Some guidance would be appreciated. I have received a letter from 1st credit paying they are " considering " county court action. What do I need to do ? Had a CCJ some years ago , now got rid and all defaults removed from CF. Credit is looking good , not wanting to undo that.
Thanks in advance
Updates:
February 2018 1st credit sent letters one threatening to consider court action:
Great advice from ADD+ to sent missing PT letter and SAR to Citi Financial
March 2018: Letter from 1st Credit for me to contact them regarding a discount they are willing to offer... FILED away
Letter from Intrum in response to missing PT letter. Of course they believe the agreement in enforceable and want paying . More great advice from ADD+ will send to 2nd agreement to Niddy to be doubly sure and possibly SAR Stepchange as well .
Just waiting for SAR response for Citi Financial , then take it from there
UPDATE: 24/04/18
Received response to SAR. Sent originally to 1st credit. Received a letter from Canada Square operations stating they will be dealing with request. I have received over 400 pages of paperwork. Surprisingly I have received a copy of the EGG loan agreement and credit card agreement made in the early 2000's. These debts are currently owned by Link. I must say I was surprised to see the agreements , baring in mind I had not heard from Link after sending a CCA last year. They have stepped up their phone calls recently. Have I shot myself in the foot by asking for SAR ? Shall I send the EGG agreements to NIDDY to have look at. In terms of Citi financial they have sent another agreement. Apparently according the letter one is the "original CCA" the other is "the current CCA" One has my current address on it the other has my old address on it. It looks like the one sent from 1st credit from CCA request. Shall I send this NIDDY again too. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Great Advice from Roger . Thank you
Update: 28/06/18
Letter from Intrum dated 24.04.18 informing me of change of name from 1st Credit: Filed
Letter from Intrum dated 15/06/18 offering a reduction off outstanding amount. Ignored filed
Letter from Intrum received today, dated 25/06/18: Heading YOUR ACCOUNT WILL SHORTLY BE PASSED TO OUR INTERNAL LEGAL DEPARTMENT. They go onto to say " your account will be passed our legal department to consider county court proceedings. They then list the consequences of a judgment attachment to earnings , warrant of control charging order. They don't want to pursue this course of action . They have given me 10 days to contact them to prevent further action. Of course I have no intention of contacting them. Do I just wait to hear from their legal department. Just so I'm clear does a letter before claim need to be sent before they actually go ahead and obtain a CCJ?
01/07/18
Just a query : After receiving the letter from Intrum I was prompted to finish wading through the the paper work sent by Canada Square ( acting on behalf of Citi ) ; in reposes to my SAR: all 1100 pages I was confused as they sent me details of my old EGG accounts. Roger put me right ,on why this was the case..what a relief. Had a look at the Citi Financial details sent me. I have all the contract details and application dates etc re EGG accounts but not so much for Citi . Canada square sent me the same copies of the credit agreements requested to 1st Credit. They have been sent what they call "the “original” agreement" with 2003 date interesting part is the year at the top of one agreements is 2008, but statements for citi cards start 2003. Both are the same as ones sent to Niddy. According to the wording from Intrum (see above) they are likely to pass onto their legal team for pursue a CCJ. Will this will discrepancy be my defence ? I know I should wait just want to get in mind what my plans will be.
Thanks in advance
UPDATE 09/07/18
Received letter from intrum's legal department dated 06/07/18 stating the account will be passed to their solicitors with the intention of issuing a letter before claim in accordance with the formal legal proceedings. They have given me 10days to get in touch to arrange payment. No doubt they are going to take matters further. Is there anything I need to do before hand or do I sit tight and be in touch once I receive the LBC.
UPDATE: 31/07/18 Letter from Intrum. Letter dated 17/07/18 responding to Final Response Letter. The are adamant they have complied with the Act with the following reasons. I did precis .. hope it makes sense
The answer section 78 of act . There are various things that maybe omitted...
1)Subject to the following provisions of these regulations , every copy of an executed agreement security instrument or other document referred to in the act and delivered or sent to debtor and any provision of the act should be a true copy thereof
2)There maybe omitted from any such copy
b) Any signature box or date of signature.
Creditors are not required tp provide a copy bearing signatures. They quote "this was confirmed by Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009. They go on to confirm they canned reconstitued copies which was enclosed with a letter they sent me in December 17. A statement of the terms of the agreement as varied has been provided to me
A statement account given from Dec 17
Compliance with section 61
They have sent an income and expediture for me to complete with a offer of payment
They have put account on hold for 30 days. they will pursue recovering the outstanding amount. Is this a standard letter they send out to give the impression that they are in the right and I am in the wrong?
UPDATE: 01/10/18: 11/08/18: Final response letter sent
Letter from Intrum, dated 20/08/18 responding to above. They wrote they provided a copy agreement with my signature nd varied terms I force at the time. Income and expenditure sheets sent to complete to . Account put on hold leaving with the outstanding monies will be recovered.
Letter from Intrum dated 25/09/18 : Want me to contact to discuss the status of account. If I don't respond in 10 days they may instruct their solicitors to commence legal proceedings : I will wait it out, Filed
UPDATE: 12/11/18
18/10/18: Very nice letter from Intrum giving a statement of account and advising they have convenient options to pay. They go on to talk about GDPR. Interesting baring in mind they were going take action : Filed
05/11/18: Letter from Intrum stating they will not be pursuing litigation at this point after reviewing my account . My account will be transferred from the Legal Department back to collections
I am asked to contact them with 10 days to discuss payment options : Filed will see what happens next
UPDATE:
09/11/18: Letter from intrum offering a 30% discount : Filed
UPDATE: 16/05/19: Letter from intrum offering a 50% discount : Filed
UPDATE: 07/08/19 : Letter from intrum offering a 65% discount: Filed
UPDATE: 13/08/19: Letter from intrum advising if I do not contact the m in 7 days they will pass my account to Resolvecall: Had this before with another company: Will send harassment letter.
- Type of account: credit card
- Date commenced pre 2007
- Approx balance: £1119
- Date last paid: 2008
- on DMP SC until November 2017
- Now self managed: Not paid November 2017
- Status :defaulted. Defaulted ,dropped off my credit file
- Account owner : 1st Credit
- CCA request sent 11/09/17.
I know it’s a waiting game
Updates
22/12/17
was only thinking yesterday how quiet it has been. A “true” copy of Agreement bent sent today. Even though my address is there the agreement could be for anything. I could be wrong but I will send to niddy after the festivities. Merry crimbo
29/01/18
Niddy says its . 1st Credit have been in touch expecting to be paid! I would imagine letters and phone calls will start as I am not paying. Any ideas what I do next I don't have the stomach waiting for 6 year statue barred.
Hi Some guidance would be appreciated. I have received a letter from 1st credit paying they are " considering " county court action. What do I need to do ? Had a CCJ some years ago , now got rid and all defaults removed from CF. Credit is looking good , not wanting to undo that.
Thanks in advance
Updates:
February 2018 1st credit sent letters one threatening to consider court action:
Great advice from ADD+ to sent missing PT letter and SAR to Citi Financial
March 2018: Letter from 1st Credit for me to contact them regarding a discount they are willing to offer... FILED away
Letter from Intrum in response to missing PT letter. Of course they believe the agreement in enforceable and want paying . More great advice from ADD+ will send to 2nd agreement to Niddy to be doubly sure and possibly SAR Stepchange as well .
Just waiting for SAR response for Citi Financial , then take it from there
UPDATE: 24/04/18
Received response to SAR. Sent originally to 1st credit. Received a letter from Canada Square operations stating they will be dealing with request. I have received over 400 pages of paperwork. Surprisingly I have received a copy of the EGG loan agreement and credit card agreement made in the early 2000's. These debts are currently owned by Link. I must say I was surprised to see the agreements , baring in mind I had not heard from Link after sending a CCA last year. They have stepped up their phone calls recently. Have I shot myself in the foot by asking for SAR ? Shall I send the EGG agreements to NIDDY to have look at. In terms of Citi financial they have sent another agreement. Apparently according the letter one is the "original CCA" the other is "the current CCA" One has my current address on it the other has my old address on it. It looks like the one sent from 1st credit from CCA request. Shall I send this NIDDY again too. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Great Advice from Roger . Thank you
Update: 28/06/18
Letter from Intrum dated 24.04.18 informing me of change of name from 1st Credit: Filed
Letter from Intrum dated 15/06/18 offering a reduction off outstanding amount. Ignored filed
Letter from Intrum received today, dated 25/06/18: Heading YOUR ACCOUNT WILL SHORTLY BE PASSED TO OUR INTERNAL LEGAL DEPARTMENT. They go onto to say " your account will be passed our legal department to consider county court proceedings. They then list the consequences of a judgment attachment to earnings , warrant of control charging order. They don't want to pursue this course of action . They have given me 10 days to contact them to prevent further action. Of course I have no intention of contacting them. Do I just wait to hear from their legal department. Just so I'm clear does a letter before claim need to be sent before they actually go ahead and obtain a CCJ?
01/07/18
Just a query : After receiving the letter from Intrum I was prompted to finish wading through the the paper work sent by Canada Square ( acting on behalf of Citi ) ; in reposes to my SAR: all 1100 pages I was confused as they sent me details of my old EGG accounts. Roger put me right ,on why this was the case..what a relief. Had a look at the Citi Financial details sent me. I have all the contract details and application dates etc re EGG accounts but not so much for Citi . Canada square sent me the same copies of the credit agreements requested to 1st Credit. They have been sent what they call "the “original” agreement" with 2003 date interesting part is the year at the top of one agreements is 2008, but statements for citi cards start 2003. Both are the same as ones sent to Niddy. According to the wording from Intrum (see above) they are likely to pass onto their legal team for pursue a CCJ. Will this will discrepancy be my defence ? I know I should wait just want to get in mind what my plans will be.
Thanks in advance
UPDATE 09/07/18
Received letter from intrum's legal department dated 06/07/18 stating the account will be passed to their solicitors with the intention of issuing a letter before claim in accordance with the formal legal proceedings. They have given me 10days to get in touch to arrange payment. No doubt they are going to take matters further. Is there anything I need to do before hand or do I sit tight and be in touch once I receive the LBC.
UPDATE: 31/07/18 Letter from Intrum. Letter dated 17/07/18 responding to Final Response Letter. The are adamant they have complied with the Act with the following reasons. I did precis .. hope it makes sense
The answer section 78 of act . There are various things that maybe omitted...
1)Subject to the following provisions of these regulations , every copy of an executed agreement security instrument or other document referred to in the act and delivered or sent to debtor and any provision of the act should be a true copy thereof
2)There maybe omitted from any such copy
b) Any signature box or date of signature.
Creditors are not required tp provide a copy bearing signatures. They quote "this was confirmed by Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009. They go on to confirm they canned reconstitued copies which was enclosed with a letter they sent me in December 17. A statement of the terms of the agreement as varied has been provided to me
A statement account given from Dec 17
Compliance with section 61
They have sent an income and expediture for me to complete with a offer of payment
They have put account on hold for 30 days. they will pursue recovering the outstanding amount. Is this a standard letter they send out to give the impression that they are in the right and I am in the wrong?
UPDATE: 01/10/18: 11/08/18: Final response letter sent
Letter from Intrum, dated 20/08/18 responding to above. They wrote they provided a copy agreement with my signature nd varied terms I force at the time. Income and expenditure sheets sent to complete to . Account put on hold leaving with the outstanding monies will be recovered.
Letter from Intrum dated 25/09/18 : Want me to contact to discuss the status of account. If I don't respond in 10 days they may instruct their solicitors to commence legal proceedings : I will wait it out, Filed
UPDATE: 12/11/18
18/10/18: Very nice letter from Intrum giving a statement of account and advising they have convenient options to pay. They go on to talk about GDPR. Interesting baring in mind they were going take action : Filed
05/11/18: Letter from Intrum stating they will not be pursuing litigation at this point after reviewing my account . My account will be transferred from the Legal Department back to collections
I am asked to contact them with 10 days to discuss payment options : Filed will see what happens next
UPDATE:
09/11/18: Letter from intrum offering a 30% discount : Filed
UPDATE: 16/05/19: Letter from intrum offering a 50% discount : Filed
UPDATE: 07/08/19 : Letter from intrum offering a 65% discount: Filed
UPDATE: 13/08/19: Letter from intrum advising if I do not contact the m in 7 days they will pass my account to Resolvecall: Had this before with another company: Will send harassment letter.
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