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is the letter/form blue/white with code N1 on it court form if so top right should have details to respond on line with codes?? That ia a claim form and needs to get on line and acknowledge claim no letters at theis stage, confusing letters??

No, just a black and white typed one, and no N1 at the top or codes to respond to. It says Form PE2 at the top right. It is very specific that I only have two options: 1) contact Brighton and pay the fine; or 2) Respond to the court in writing by snailmail with a sworn statement witnessed by a law officer saying that I never received the original fine letter. And I obviously can't (won't, because I am buggered if I am going to pay someone else's fine!!) do No. 1, and I can't do No. 2 because I am abroad so there is no time.

The form of words used is this:


An order to recover a penalty charge has been made against you at the Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton County Court.
Dated 19/05/22
YOU MUST WITHIN 21 DAYS (of the date shown on the postmark) EITHER
Pay the total amount due (shown above) to:
Brighton and Hove City Council, Parking Services, G39, Hove Town Hall, Norton Rd, Hove, BN3 3BQ
OR, file a statutory declaration on the enclosed form and send it to the Traffic Enforcement Centre at the address given below.
THE DECLARATION MUST BE SIGNED BEFORE A COMMISSIONER FOR OATHS (E.G. A SOLICITOR) OR AN OFFICER OF ANY COUNTY COURT APPOINTED BY A JUDGE TO TAKE AFFIDAVITS OR A JUSTICE OF THE PEACE (AT ANY MAGISTRATES COURT). YOU MAY HAVE TO PAY A FEE.

NOTE:
THE ONLY GROUNDS ON WHICH YOU CAN MAKE A STATUTORY DECLARATION ARE:
1. You did not receive the notice to owner (notification of the penalty charge)
2. You made representations about the penalty charge to the local authority concerned and you did not receive a rejection notice
3. You appealed to the Parking Adjudicator against the local authority's decision to reject your representation, but you have had no response to your appeal.


As I said, the first of those three instances applies to me - I have never seen the original letter, or indeed any communications from them, because they are not going to my address. But I can't respond in time or via a UK legal office because I am abroad.

So I am very much beginning to think that I am screwed - that they will reject my representations and the only way to avoid a CCJ will be to pay someone else's fine. Which REALLY sticks in my throat, because it is clear that he intentionally didn't send off the V5C, because he wanted to stitch me up and be able to drive around scot free, secure in the knowledge that I will cop for anything he gets done for! And what is REALLY annoying me is that the DVLA has now accepted that I am not the keeper, but the identity of the keeper is unknown either to them or to me. So I would have thought that the sensible thing for them to do would be to cancel the tax on the vehicle, as that would then cause it to be flagged by passing police cars and they could stop the car and find out the owner's ID. But no - I have just checked and it is still taxed and (freshly!) MoT'd! So they have neither cancelled the tax nor flagged it to come up when presented for an MoT.

I have also just realised that tomorrow is a bank holiday and so I can't contact them until literally the last day of the period allowed!

I should add that part of the problem is that the address that the letters are going to is occupied by a friend of mine and his wife, but that his elderly uncle also lives at the premises in a separate building and is still the legal owner.

I used to run a restoration business and pay them rent to store cars there. As I am no longer doing so they are starting to feel aggrieved at the hassle they feel I am causing them. All the mail goes to the uncle, and he hands it out to my friend as he sees fit. Unfortunately he is suffering from incipient dementia, and has simply been sending the letters back, with everything struck through and marked 'return to sender'.

My friend sussed that this was happening after the previous letter, but unfortunately not until after it had been sent back, which is why, until last week, I knew that there was a bus lane fine that had been issued, but not by whom it had been issued! And in order to challenge it the system says that you have to contact the issuer directly - the DVLA don't do that. And of course, as I had no way of finding out who the fine had been issued by, I couldn't contact them. So there may have been prior letters that I have not seen, which fit the description of the letter you mention (i.e. blue/white form with N1 at the top).

I fear this one may be 'last chance saloon', and the only reason I have had sight of it is because I asked my friend please, please, please to try to stop his uncle returning the letters. They are both beginning to get pissed off with me because they are worried about the bailiffs coming round to their address, and I have managed to make them understand that the only way I can stop the bailiffs coming round is if they let me see the letters!!!

download copy of what you got ;redact personal info and numbers so we can see what you actually got? copy of N1 or something else?

debtguy has posted a link to scans of the letter received in post #15, I've tried to upload copies directly into this post but it throws an exception.

Yes, I couldn't manage either - that's why I posted the onedrive files. They should work OK.