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  • #16
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    Just putting some helpful notes here....

    Does anyone know what is SDR's in terms of currency?

    http://www.ECOAIRLINE/en/terms-and-conditions


    14.2 There are no financial limits to our liability for death, wounding or any other bodily injury suffered by a Passenger. We have strict liability up to 113,100 SDRs unless we can prove that the damage was caused by, or contributed to by, the negligence of the injured or deceased Passenger. For claims in excess of this limit, we may be exonerated if we can prove that we and our agents took all necessary measures to avoid the damage or that it was impossible for us or them to take such measures.


    http://www.hse.gov.uk/airtransport/passengers.htm

    Health and Saftey inf....
    although could not find out what if any if there was any requirement for a first aid kit and what it should have had in it.

    I did find out though that Oxygen costs on ECO AIRLINE £100 and has to be booked in advance.
    Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:20.
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    • #17
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      Originally posted by Never-In-Doubt View Post
      No mate, he can't - he has holes in his feet
      Niddy I thought this was you we were talking about.

      Seriously Milly this is horrendous, I always thought cabin staff were trained to an above average level in First Aid. I would be contacting the National press and making a big thing of this (which it is) It is scandalous that the staff couldn't deal with this or have basic equipment, like Oxymeter / Defib/ ECG available. I always thought this was standard equipment on Civil Airliners these days.

      I would send a copy of your post to Flight International Magazine.

      Don't let this drop, Your OH was lucky. The next poor Booger might not be so.

      Regards and thanks for letting us know about this. Handy.
      Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:21.
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      • #18
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        http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/3011015/

        they shouldn't be out by themselves by the looks of things!!!
        Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:22.

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        • #19
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          This will explain SDR to you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Drawing_Rights
          Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:22.

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          • #20
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            Hi Milly,

            ECO AIRLINE------UGH!

            I would never fly with them again after an incident with football fans on the way home from Dublin. They blamed all the decent business travellers not the B****Y football hooligans.

            Disgraceful bunch of air cowboys!

            regards
            Garlok
            Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:22.

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            • #21
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              I have found a no win no fee solicitor called Irwin Mitchell http://www.irwinmitchell.com/service...s/default.aspx
              they deal with all sorts of claims arising from aviation, train, ships etc etc.... one of their solicitors it appears deals pacifically with injuries and compensation arising from injuries sustained whilst on board a plane. OH is phoning them tomorrow. I suspect they will want him to claim through the travel insurance and get themselves appointed. Since they are fairly local to us and a very large firm that litterally specialise in this area and seem to have the expertees, I hope that our travel insurers will appoint them and that they are on the panel of the insurer.

              This firm have dealt with very large cases such as Lockerbie and many other cases but they also deal with the smaller cases as well.

              ********

              Tomorrow O/H is going to the doctors to be checked out as he is having nightmares and is having very disturbed nights which in turn is disturbing me.
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              Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:23.
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              • #22
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                Did you have solicitors to fight your corner???

                Originally posted by evenlessdopey
                good luck Milly, looks like you have under control, remember it will take ages and its really frustating but you have to hang in there to the end, mine took 4 years!!!!
                Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:31.
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                • #23
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                  Do Not use irwin Mitchell. Seriously avoid like the plague.

                  I'll elaborate later but we used them; also formally complained and still awaiting resolution. It's an office of kids (call handlers) using scripts. We swapped midway through a claim. Irwin made a final offer of £2k, we went to the smaller BETTER solicitors and 4 months later they got us £5200.

                  BIIIIIG difference. Irwin mitchell is a joke.
                  Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:30.
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                  • #24
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                    yes we did Milly, 2 different lots, its just not as easy as all of these adverts would have you believe.
                    Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:30.

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                    • #25
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                      What about pro-bono help? Anyone have dealings?
                      Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:30.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by evenlessdopey View Post
                        yes we did Milly, 2 different lots, its just not as easy as all of these adverts would have you believe.
                        Exactly and when you establish a gaggle of 18-22 year school leavers are dealing with your claim; it forces a change

                        We used irwin and after we left we debated suing them, a simple 6 month claim took 3 years cos of these idiots. Anyway, I digress.....
                        Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:29.
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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
                          What about pro-bono help? Anyone have dealings?
                          These claims all work to no win no fee and/or they'll use your existing insurance policy.
                          Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:29.
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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by Never-In-Doubt View Post
                            Do Not use irwin Mitchell. Seriously avoid like the plague.

                            I'll elaborate later but we used them; also formally complained and still awaiting resolution. It's an office of kids (call handlers) using scripts. We swapped midway through a claim. Irwin made a final offer of £2k, we went to the smaller BETTER solicitors and 4 months later they got us £5200.

                            BIIIIIG difference. Irwin mitchell is a joke.
                            your right there, these gits are collecting my ccj payments
                            Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:29.

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                            • #29
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                              On the subject of finding solicitors if I may. Some of you have probably read my diatribe and drivel on this subject before. However when in need of help on our CC accounts I applied some very simple criteria to get where we are at this time. Undoubltedly I will end up repaeating them elswhere as well over time.

                              Firstly, let us be clear, in reality there are no "No Win No Fee" lawyers. ewveryone of them has an angle that advertises such services.

                              I entered at the time"consumer credit lawyers" and subsequently consumer credit solicitors into my search engine. (remember UK only).

                              1. I ruled out any that had advertisments for financial institutions on their website as conflict of interest.
                              2. Any that dealt with debt collection services at all -- ruled out.
                              3. Any that had the approach of call the bimbo and get a legal opinion in 40 seconds---- ruled out.
                              4. any that had flashy marketing type websites ---- ruled out. Why? Because by their very nature reputable competent law practices are conservative in their approach to legal matters, (please note the small C).
                              5. Preferably within a 50 mile radius but not a critical factor.
                              6. Any that were registeres as CMCs with the MoJ ruled out.

                              From these simple criteria I drew up a short list and then got on the phone. E-mail is useless! This way you can get a good feeling for their
                              attitude to you. Yes we did find one who have not been able to do enough for us. The raod has been rocky at times but I think that in the main was due to our own impatience and frustration.

                              In this case of yours Milly I would also add to the ruling out criteria any that have to advertise on the telly. A good lawyer worth his/her salt has no real need to advertise. Their reputuation is good enough.

                              The question about pro bono has been raised here on thread. Forstly there is the direct public access scheme run by the Bar Association for a number of barristers. You will have to do all the leg work a solicitor would do though under his/her direction. There are pro bono barristers as well from the smae source but I would have thought it unlikely that they would take this on as it stands. I might be wrong, but their website is worth a look.

                              Sorry to interject again.
                              regards
                              Garlok
                              Last edited by jen_br; 26 June 2011, 21:28.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Economy Airline incident

                                Yesterday's events 27th June 2011.

                                O/h makes appointment with GP she was not the slightest bit interested and just said she will make a note of it.

                                o/h phones Thompsons http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/other...nts_aeroplanes
                                they state on their web site that that handle accidents on board aircraft - such as stewardess spilling drinks. So he made the call they said the claim would be far to small for them to handle. He never got past the switchboard.

                                So he decided to phone a Personl Injury Lawyer that was highly recomended by my friends daughter whose husband is also a lawyer and he knows of this guys reputation. My o/h said it was like a breath of fresh air speaking to an actual partner. He is a partner at Goodge Law up near Goodge Street W1. He has agreed to take it on a no win no fee basis as long as the claim will exceed £1k if it goes to court.

                                Now o/h has to report the incident to Econair so that he could be allocated a claims number and that should be on the web site. Well they do not make it easy at Econair the only way you can report an incident is by fax or post. So I told o/h to send it both ways and by special delivery.

                                He is going back to th GP later this week to tell them about the nightmares etc etc he is having.

                                Yesterday afternoon he receives a call from another firm of lawyers - he had not phoned them they tell him that they had been reffered from claims direct and at this times had not phoned the insurers and again he never called them either the only company that could have passed his x directory number was Thompsons. Bearing in mind what is transpiring with the insurance companies who are selling on leads for £1k a pop. Perhaps I am synacle but supposing the girl who took o/h call at Thompsons said it was too small for them and then passed on a lead for personal gain to another so called claims specialist. But the lesson here is stay away from the big guys they don't play nicely.
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                                note for Jen some of the posts are missing - any ideas???? xx
                                My site name is after General Tutts who won a famous battle at Newbury many moons ago 1643 - I hope to win all my battles and will fight to the bitter end.

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