P800 Tax Calculation help

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

With addition to the above, I did find more info on earnings she earned before she commenced employment with the current employer.

So she commenced employment 30 August 2010 with the employer she's still with now (We know this company been dealt with by the HMRC and resolved on Ju's favour).
The employer before them, from April to the above date she got paid monthly, her tax code 647L.

Earnings from start of the 2010 tax year to Ending employment (to the above date) £9019.50

Tax paid in previous employment: £1106.00
(As it states on the info) the amount of tax deducted as advised by your employer was £1106.00

Your Tax Code 647L

She's a 20% basic tax payer.

What I would like to know is, will it help with an online calcularoe for that year 2010/11 to work out how much tax she should have paid in that employment?

Do you have a good link to a tax calculator please?

Cheers.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

Ju SAR'd HMRC and not long received the information back. she left them with me today, but not had the chance to look through it all yet.
I note the last 2 pages states the original payment due to her, and the amount she did end up receiving. Not sure if there are any clues of what she wants to know though. So whilst waiting for the letter she said I can take a look through and post up any info I think may be relevant. There may be more yet.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

Cheers SXGuy

She said when she does receive it lol, I can post it up on here :-) expecting it will take some time lol.

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

LOL ok, well as you know, this letter could take awhile, so lets see what it says when it finally arrives.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

Right Ju ended up ringing them earlier in the week and was just told they will send a letter in the post for as soon as possible. She said the guy she was talking to seemed to be confused about it, so which is why he said it will be looked into and letter will be sorted to be sent.

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

im hedging a bet that the 179 is a result of underpaid tax based on incorrect P45 information.

If you look on a P45 it shows the date of leaving and the last month/week to which it applies. They would know what tax should be stopped on the earnings up to that point.

Its possible after sorting all this they looked at it and realised it was 179 quid short.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

I did try ringing but no answer, I note they open til 4pm on Saturday's. If not I expect it will be Monday she'll ring, am interested to know too, considering they must have already looked into the previous employer as it was the same year and she wasnt there long, about 3/4 months and not working before that I dont think.

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

Could be quicker to ring. Would be interested to know also.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

No i think she should at the most, ask them to explain where the underpaid tax of 179 quid came from, and we can take it from there.

I spoken to her quickly and she said she thinks she understands, but dont think she will bother appealing but she may just ask on where the £179 came from as she is curious on this. Maybe it would be quicker if she rang them.
She said thank you (again) lol!

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

No i think she should at the most, ask them to explain where the underpaid tax of 179 quid came from, and we can take it from there.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

Just dug up some of her past letters from the tax office.

The one dated 20th December 2012 states that the overpayment (2010-11) was do to with the employer (PMP) who's she still with now (with going through records for that actual year). No mention of the company she worked with before that.
Do you think (if she wants to try to appeal on this) that she should enclose that letter?

This was also when they said when they (HMRC) received the P46 from the current employer.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

I do see how its confusing, she could perhaps write back and ask them to explain where the underpaid tax of £179.00 arrived from.

If its also down to previous employer error, i.e not using correct tax code, that could be claimed back again, would be a seperate claim this time, going through the same process again.

But explain to her that it appears this was underpaid tax concerning another issue and not part of her employers error which is why they have deducted it.

Thanks again SXGuy, yes I shall let her know and see what she wants to do.

I do still have copies of her notices here, think I may have posted it earlier in the thread, but not sure if this would explain anything.

Will let her know - thanks :-)

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

I do see how its confusing, she could perhaps write back and ask them to explain where the underpaid tax of £179.00 arrived from.

If its also down to previous employer error, i.e not using correct tax code, that could be claimed back again, would be a seperate claim this time, going through the same process again.

But explain to her that it appears this was underpaid tax concerning another issue and not part of her employers error which is why they have deducted it.

[di30]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

I can see why you are confused, and thats where Accountants would normally explain the deductions to their clients, and so ill do the same for you LOL

Ok, HMRC are stating that her overall underpaid tax for 2010/11 was £698.00.

Part of that underpaid tax was a result of her employer using incorrect P46 information and ignoring the P45 details (income from other employments and tax already paid)

This error resulted in an underpayment of £519.80, for which they are asking him personally to repay.

The second part of the underpaid tax of £179, is what they havent actually been clear on.

Theres two potential reasons for this. The first reason being, the amount of tax stopped by her previous employer (as shown on her P45) is incorrect also.

Or HMRC issued an incorrect Tax Code at some point resulting in her employer not stopping enough tax.

I do know, that HMRC have in the past, issued incorrect tax codes, for which they have clawed underpaid tax back from people in future years. Infact quite a lot of people were in a similar position a few years back. In most cases HMRC just updated their current tax codes to claw it back, but it appears in this case, as she was due a repayment, they have taken it from that instead.

The difference your friend has received is correct based on their calculations.

So personally, i dont see what valid reason your friend would have to appeal this. I think she should be happy she's had 519.80 paid on her behalf by the employer, and has also received £270.89 in her pocket.

Thanks SXGuy

Yes I see what you are saying and agree with you.

I will try explaining this to her as best as I can. (She in a tizwaz at the mo due to personal family issues) all going on at the same time.

Thank you for looking into this though, but I do see what you mean. I think she just assumed that as the underpayment was down to employer error then it meant the full amount owing was down to her employer and didnt know how they worked it out, and that they deducted the £170 from her overpayment to pay for something that wasnt her fault (if you get my drift) lol!

thank you.

[SXGuy]

Re: P800 Tax Calculation help

I can see why you are confused, and thats where Accountants would normally explain the deductions to their clients, and so ill do the same for you LOL

Ok, HMRC are stating that her overall underpaid tax for 2010/11 was £698.00.

Part of that underpaid tax was a result of her employer using incorrect P46 information and ignoring the P45 details (income from other employments and tax already paid)

This error resulted in an underpayment of £519.80, for which they are asking him personally to repay.

The second part of the underpaid tax of £179, is what they havent actually been clear on.

Theres two potential reasons for this. The first reason being, the amount of tax stopped by her previous employer (as shown on her P45) is incorrect also.

Or HMRC issued an incorrect Tax Code at some point resulting in her employer not stopping enough tax.

I do know, that HMRC have in the past, issued incorrect tax codes, for which they have clawed underpaid tax back from people in future years. Infact quite a lot of people were in a similar position a few years back. In most cases HMRC just updated their current tax codes to claw it back, but it appears in this case, as she was due a repayment, they have taken it from that instead.

The difference your friend has received is correct based on their calculations.

So personally, i dont see what valid reason your friend would have to appeal this. I think she should be happy she's had 519.80 paid on her behalf by the employer, and has also received £270.89 in her pocket.