Work have pulled a fast one here.....

[SXGuy]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Your union rep sounds more like the HR Department lol

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

What a load of tosh.... to be honest your termination date has already changed - you have not been terminated (thank god ) and its now the 10th January... you haven't received any formal letters have you? I am assuming that as the settlement is pending approval then you haven't had your contract terminated? Dates will be agreed once the paperwork is exchanged (they should play a fixed fee for your to consult a solicitor before you sign a settlement agreement) Honestly my lovely your union appear to be completely bonkers!

Jane x

Well, that's what she's been saying. It's 31st December 2014; now a retrospective termination date and settlement pending approval by the big wigs. Legal paperwork will be forwarded to her along with the reference that my employer is currently drawing up. There's been no talk about paying for a solicitor whatsoever..... and I haven't signed anything, no. I did say about the termination date being changed to reflect the fact that a further sick note had gone in that took me up to 31st January.... but she said that the termination date would not be changed. I'm starting to wonder who's interests are being protected here..... but did email to her to say that they needed to get a wriggle on because I'm still on the payroll. Didn't get a response to that one.

I agree with you.... it's complete tosh..... and if it gets to the end of January and my salary has been stopped pending a hypothetical approval, I'll be fuming.

I'm thinking got drafting another email to let her know that the whole thing stinks...... but will leave things another week, I think..... and go from there.

[tastyjane]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

What a load of tosh.... to be honest your termination date has already changed - you have not been terminated (thank god ) and its now the 10th January... you haven't received any formal letters have you? I am assuming that as the settlement is pending approval then you haven't had your contract terminated? Dates will be agreed once the paperwork is exchanged (they should play a fixed fee for your to consult a solicitor before you sign a settlement agreement) Honestly my lovely your union appear to be completely bonkers!

Jane x

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

i know what you're saying..... but they're not budging from the termination date being 31st December 2014 (according to the union person anyway). So..... if I get paid at the end of January, what happens then?

I get the impression that this will get dragged out until just before the end of the month, so they can just pay the same settlement without honouring my sick pay for January. When I raised the issue of changing the termination date with the union person, she was adamant that it could not be changed. The neutral path she is walking with this is almost amusing at times and I know I've tested her patience at times but hey ho.... lol.

I could always delay signing anything until my January sick pay is credited on 26th.... but I will be fuming if the settlement is reduced to take account of it...... and then there's the argument that if they can adjust the settlement so easily, then why not the termination date?

The main reason I want this sorted now is because I've been offered another job. It's not as much pay (or responsibility) but with the settlement, I can take it and build from there..... I am hoping to be free to do this in February. If the paperwork doesn't get signed beforehand though, then I'll have to stall for a start date as I'm not leaving with nothing. If the worst comes to the worst however, I'll just have to tell the new people the truth..... They're certainly much more approachable than my current lot!

[tastyjane]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

took me a bottle of wine to myself to think about it Oscar

Jane x

[oscar]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Was going to suggest exactly the same last night, but wasn't sure if I would be correct or not!

[tastyjane]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Right been thinking about this all night (sad person that I am) - what can happen here - they carry on dragging their heels and you are paid for your January pay, I know this is stressful but in reality this means you get an additional months money off them and you are the winner - they will still have to pay you the same settlement amount even if its into February. I know you want it all signed off and sorted and obviously that would be the best for your health but should it continue to drag you will ultimately be better off financially.

Jane x

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Well.... no update.... still waiting for approval.

Presumably, they will need to make a decision one way or another before the end of this month though because I'm still on the payroll!

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Thanks Jane..... email sent this afternoon x

[tastyjane]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Just adding to your case if they go back on their offer lovely...... contact the union and get them to put pressure on for you... you have reached this position due to their poor management causing you stress and anxiety - this latest issue is obviously causing you more stress! Nice one if it ever goes legal.... You are still covered under your fit for work note - you haven't formally had your contract terminated, you are still an employee....


Jane x

[nanna58]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Don't they get on the piggin nerves

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Still no answer FFS! This is really starting to piss me off now..... I have drafted an email to the union to get them to chase it again which will be sent in the morning if I hear nothing by the close of play today.

I need to know if I'm still an employee or not before I can move forward and it's now nearly a fortnight after the proposed termination date! If I'm no longer an employee, I will need to make plans to safeguard myself financially and they are effectively stopping me from doing this.

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

It probably has some undertones CC.......

[CleverClogs (RIP)]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

Already written the memoirs CC.

Is it anything like the adventures of Henry Wilt?

[PriorityOne]

Re: Work have pulled a fast one here.....

What sort of educational establishment would have - or need - a "Human Resources Business Partner"?

What sort of educational establishment regards its teaching staff as "Human Resources" - another commodity to be used and used up by the business, and thrown away when of no further use?

Get your revenge on the buggers by writing a fictionalised memoir of your time there.

An educational establishment which now follows a business model. Not sure how that can be applied to education, to be honest..... but do know that this was around the time I started to feel like a commodity myself.

Already written the memoirs CC. Thought I'd need a full timeline of events at some point, so covered the last 2 years, just in case.

Education is certainly nowhere near what it used to be...... quite an eye-opener at times.