Re: Lovemoney UE Diary
LLOYDS TSB (CREDIT CARD)
HUSBANDS
17/12/2007 BALANCE: £427.77
reminder in arrears £1 payment required agreed under the instalment plan.
22/1/2008
received threat letter from Credit Security Ltd(debt enforcement office) demand full payment immediately failure will result dc calling or ccj.
5/2/2008
received threat letter from Credit Security Ltd documents for legal action now being prepared blah blah...
30/8/2009
received letter from Robinson Way & Co for formal demand payment more threat.
9/9/2009
cca request sent.
16/9/2009
replied saying request for a copy of cca be directed to them (lloyds tsb) a/c has been placed on a temporary delay until receive cca by lloyds tsb.
25/11/2009
received letter saying in view of my recent query & comment, we have today removed your a/c from our files, & returned my case to lloyds tsb who will deal directly with me in the future. lloyds tsb has been made aware of the reason why a/c is being closed & returned.
8/7/2011
received letter from tsb & dlc have assigned all tittle and interest including the outstanding bal to Hillesden Securities Ltd. Under the term assigment, as defined Data Protection Act 1998. DLC has been appointed by Hillesden to manage my a/c and future payments and correspondence.
22/7/2011
received letter from dlc telephone to discuss for payment options(f&f settlement or monthly paments).
27/7/11
send in proposal, hardship difficulties & budget sheet.
8/8/11
received Notice of Debt Recovery from dlc.
6/9/11
received letter from Alplin(Solicitor) instructed by??? to recover the outstanding balance in full or reach agreement within 7days legal proceedings.
8/9/11
received bank details from dlc to set up standing order.
7/11/11 balance: £417.77
received Notice of Sums in Arrears.
6/1/12
received annual statement of a/c £415.77 from dlc.
26/3/12
cca request sent DLC (latest dca).
18/4/12
received reply (but letter dated 2/4/12) saying still awaiting from original lender (Lloyds) when these become available will be forwarded to me. If unable to forward original agreement will be able to supply a true copy which comply with section 77-79 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 rulling in the case of McGuffick V RBS judgement dated 6/10/09 in relation to "what is considered enforcement", the judgement stated that the bringing of proceedings is not enforcement. It follows that demanding payment is step taken prior to the commencement of proceedings & therefore not considered enforcement. We will continue to report the account status to the CRA as this is also not considered as enforcement. Whilst may not be able to enforce the agreement until the documentation is provided, the monies remain outstanding and ther underlying obligation to repay remains intact. In view the above judgement a/c remain with collection department for collections activity to continue. will update on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand. Refer #138 just keep a hold of that letter & wait & see what happens next
10/1/13
Received annual statement of a/c £403.77 from dlc.
1/2/13
Letter from DLC received today (6/2/13). ARREARS NOTIFICATION...you have not kept to the arrangement that we agreed for repaying yr debt, and are now in arrears of £403.77. Pls settle yr arrears without delay, to avoid possible legal action. If for any reason you are unable to make payment, or would like to re-negotiate the payment plan, pls telephone us to discuss the matter. We want to reassure you that we're fully aware of the financial difficulties that you may be facing during this difficult period. and have embraced a policy of fair & realistic treatment for all for our customer.
27/2/13
Letter from DLC We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand.
1/2/13
Letter from DLC We have chosen to send you this letter as someone who may be struggling to manage yr credit commitment. One of the impacts of the "credit crunch" has been an individual's ability to obtain credit, particularly mortgages, with lenders scrutinising applicants' credit history & payment records much closer. In the future, credit is only likely to be available to individuals with good credit history or those that can display positive efforts to pay off their defaulted a/c. Therefore we can offer you a choice of two options to improve yr situation: £10 per mnth by d/debit OR If you pay 75% of the balance within 21 days, we will write off the remaining balance or alternatively contact us on XXXXXXXX to discuss other repayment options. Our re-payment plans are subject to regular review. If you would like to discuss what other opportunities are available to you to settle the outstanding balance pls call or email us.
10/4/13
Letter from DLC received (4/5/13). We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand.
12/4/13
Letter from DLC We have managing yr a/c since xx/x/xx. You have been making regular payments, but yr balance is still outstanding. To assist you in clearing the remaining balance in the shortest possible time, we would ask that you contact one of our telephone negotiators to discuss a revised payment plan. We maybe able to offer a discount for early settlement, allowing an early update of any entries registered by DLC with the CRA, Upon payment of any settlement balance the entries will be updated as 'partially settled' this would have a positive impact on this particular entry registered on yr credit file. Your current repayment plan has reached the end of its term & it is therefore important that you respond to this letter. Failure to do so could result in the withdrawal of instalments rights on this a/c.
1/5/13
Letter from DLC received (4/5/13). We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand. refer #723 ignore
22/5/13
Letter from DLC received. We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand.
30/5/13 BALANCE: £403.77
Letter from MDB LTD (MERCANTILE DATA BUREAU) received (4/5/13). I have been instructed by DLC an associated company of MDB Ltd, to contact you about the unpaid debt. Yr a/c has been transferred to me due to yr continued failure to discharge yr current liability. All future contact relating to yr a/c should now be with me. I would like to give you the opportunity to discuss yr a/c with me before we undertake any action with yr a/c. I will take into consideration yr current financial circumstances & outline the many options available to help resolve this matter. I urge you to contact me today to conclude this matter as quickly as possible.
5/6/13
Account Sold whilst in Dispute sent (MBD) by recorded.
11/6/13
Letter from DLC received. We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand.
18/6/13
Letter from DLC received (21/6/13). Thank you for yr letter dated 5/6 regarding the above a/c, which has been referred to me by our appointed agent MDB. Hillesden as DLC acquired the above a/c from Lloyds on 28/1/11. We recently appointed our agent MDB to collect the a/c balance on behalf. We received yr CCA request in our office on 30/3/12 & a letter was sent to you at that time to acknowledge receipt of yr request. We referred to Lloyds for a copy of the a/c documentation & still await receipt of this. Pls note that the purpose of a CCA request is to provide information about the a/c to the customer & is not to prove a properly executed agreement exist or to be used as tool to withhold payment. Pls find enclosed a copy of the statement of a/c from our systems showing payment we have received on the a/c up to 28/12/12. Due to this, we assume yr liability ion this matter is not in question. we deny that any harassment has taken place within the meaning of section 1 of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 or under section 40 of the Administration of Justice Act 1970. It is entirely reasonable for us, as the creditor, to communicate directly with the customer in relation to the repayment of an agreement entered into, especially where the customer is not legally represented. Of course, where a customer is legally represented we do communicate with the solicitors directly. Whilst we may not be able to enforce the agreement at this time, the monies remain outstanding. The agreement or any monies pd has not been made illegal or void because of our current failure to supply a copy of the original agreement. We are prevented from taking steps to enforce the credit agreement but the underlying obligation to repay, remains intact. Pls contact our appointed agent to arrange further payments to the a/c. Should you be experiencing financial hardship at this time, pls provide our agent with details of yr current monthly I&E so an appropriate payment plan can be agreed. We would like to take this opportunity to advise that all our agents are trained to understand & empathise with our customer' financial difficulties & work to a policy of fair & realistic treatment for all. refer #716 ignore for now
19/6/13
Letter from MDB received. Unfortunately I have not had a response to my recent letter. This is disappointing as I wanted to give you the opportunity to resolve this matter without the need for a further third party to become involved. Part of my a/c management process involves profilling a/c to pass to doorstep specialists, who may arrange to visit yr home. However, should my enquiries show that you are a home owner or employed/self employed, a third party may be instructed immediately to begin further collection activity. I assume you would rather this together with the additional costs, and therefore strongly advise to ring me today on XXXXXXXXXX.
2/7/13
template-letters threat-of-doorstep-visit sent.
2/7/13
Letter from DLC received (5/7/13). We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand.
10/7/13
Letter from DLC received (12/7/13). Yr letter dated 25/6/13 addressed to MDB regarding the above a/c has been referred to our offices for attention. We acknowledged yr request for our company to cease contact via telephone in 9/2011; there is no evidence we have contact you other that by letter since that date. Should you have documentary evidence of recent attempts to contact you, pls provide this so the matter can be investigated. Pls note if you do not keep a regular dialogue with us regarding this a/c & update us accordingly, we may choose to re-instate yr contact tel no. to continue collection activity on the a/c when required. If re-instated, you will have a right to object to this processing only if it causes unwarranted & substantial damage or distress. You must provide yr objections i writing under secction 10 of the DPA 1998. You are not correct in yr assertion that our external agents can only call at you home if you agree to make an appointment. The debt is not reasonably disputed or deadlocked & our agents would give you reasonable notice of the timing of any intended visit which is all that is required. We request you now contact MDB to arrange payment of the a/c balance. As we have received payments to the a/c in the past, we assume yr liability in this matter is not in question.
19/7/13
Miss Muddle's UE Diary - Page 8 - allaboutFORUMS sent by recorded (23/7/13). refer #735
30/7/13
Letter from DLC received. Thank you for yr letter dated 19/7 in relation to the a/c. We can confirm & advise the following:- The balance on yr a/c is a debt which has been properly incurred by you under an agreement signed by you & regulated by the CCA. Hillesden is a trading Co which has been registered with Companies Hs4e since 7/92. It is not registered as dormant as you have stated in yr letter. Our registeration no is XXXXX. I note that on 30/3/12 you made a request for information under the CCA 74. We have made request from LLoyds TSB for this information, due to thre age of the a/c the original executed agreement & statement are currently unavailable; pls find enclosed a copy of transaction to date from our system since our acquisition.
Whilst we may not be able to enforce the agreement, the monies remain outstanding. The agreement or any monies pd has not been made illegal or void because of our current failure to supply a copy of the original agreement. We are prevented from taking steps to enforce the credit agreement but the underlying obligation to repay, remain intact. The ruling in the case of McGuffick V RBS clarified the numerous interpretations of what is considered "enforcement". Should you want to view the Judgment in its entirety, it is easily accessible via the Internet. The demanding of payment is not considered enforcement & purely a step taken prior to the commencement of proceedings, therefore yr a/c will remain with our collections dept. for collection activity to continue. As payment have been made towards the balance outstanding, we are under the assumption that yr liability in this matter is not in question. Trust the above information resolves this matter, however, if you require any further clarification pls do not hesitate to contact our office. refer #762-#767 ignore and see what they do next keep letter very safe
LLOYDS TSB (CREDIT CARD)
HUSBANDS
17/12/2007 BALANCE: £427.77
reminder in arrears £1 payment required agreed under the instalment plan.
22/1/2008
received threat letter from Credit Security Ltd(debt enforcement office) demand full payment immediately failure will result dc calling or ccj.
5/2/2008
received threat letter from Credit Security Ltd documents for legal action now being prepared blah blah...
30/8/2009
received letter from Robinson Way & Co for formal demand payment more threat.
9/9/2009
cca request sent.
16/9/2009
replied saying request for a copy of cca be directed to them (lloyds tsb) a/c has been placed on a temporary delay until receive cca by lloyds tsb.
25/11/2009
received letter saying in view of my recent query & comment, we have today removed your a/c from our files, & returned my case to lloyds tsb who will deal directly with me in the future. lloyds tsb has been made aware of the reason why a/c is being closed & returned.
8/7/2011
received letter from tsb & dlc have assigned all tittle and interest including the outstanding bal to Hillesden Securities Ltd. Under the term assigment, as defined Data Protection Act 1998. DLC has been appointed by Hillesden to manage my a/c and future payments and correspondence.
22/7/2011
received letter from dlc telephone to discuss for payment options(f&f settlement or monthly paments).
27/7/11
send in proposal, hardship difficulties & budget sheet.
8/8/11
received Notice of Debt Recovery from dlc.
6/9/11
received letter from Alplin(Solicitor) instructed by??? to recover the outstanding balance in full or reach agreement within 7days legal proceedings.
8/9/11
received bank details from dlc to set up standing order.
7/11/11 balance: £417.77
received Notice of Sums in Arrears.
6/1/12
received annual statement of a/c £415.77 from dlc.
26/3/12
cca request sent DLC (latest dca).
18/4/12
received reply (but letter dated 2/4/12) saying still awaiting from original lender (Lloyds) when these become available will be forwarded to me. If unable to forward original agreement will be able to supply a true copy which comply with section 77-79 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 rulling in the case of McGuffick V RBS judgement dated 6/10/09 in relation to "what is considered enforcement", the judgement stated that the bringing of proceedings is not enforcement. It follows that demanding payment is step taken prior to the commencement of proceedings & therefore not considered enforcement. We will continue to report the account status to the CRA as this is also not considered as enforcement. Whilst may not be able to enforce the agreement until the documentation is provided, the monies remain outstanding and ther underlying obligation to repay remains intact. In view the above judgement a/c remain with collection department for collections activity to continue. will update on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand. Refer #138 just keep a hold of that letter & wait & see what happens next
10/1/13
Received annual statement of a/c £403.77 from dlc.
1/2/13
Letter from DLC received today (6/2/13). ARREARS NOTIFICATION...you have not kept to the arrangement that we agreed for repaying yr debt, and are now in arrears of £403.77. Pls settle yr arrears without delay, to avoid possible legal action. If for any reason you are unable to make payment, or would like to re-negotiate the payment plan, pls telephone us to discuss the matter. We want to reassure you that we're fully aware of the financial difficulties that you may be facing during this difficult period. and have embraced a policy of fair & realistic treatment for all for our customer.
27/2/13
Letter from DLC We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand.
1/2/13
Letter from DLC We have chosen to send you this letter as someone who may be struggling to manage yr credit commitment. One of the impacts of the "credit crunch" has been an individual's ability to obtain credit, particularly mortgages, with lenders scrutinising applicants' credit history & payment records much closer. In the future, credit is only likely to be available to individuals with good credit history or those that can display positive efforts to pay off their defaulted a/c. Therefore we can offer you a choice of two options to improve yr situation: £10 per mnth by d/debit OR If you pay 75% of the balance within 21 days, we will write off the remaining balance or alternatively contact us on XXXXXXXX to discuss other repayment options. Our re-payment plans are subject to regular review. If you would like to discuss what other opportunities are available to you to settle the outstanding balance pls call or email us.
10/4/13
Letter from DLC received (4/5/13). We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand.
12/4/13
Letter from DLC We have managing yr a/c since xx/x/xx. You have been making regular payments, but yr balance is still outstanding. To assist you in clearing the remaining balance in the shortest possible time, we would ask that you contact one of our telephone negotiators to discuss a revised payment plan. We maybe able to offer a discount for early settlement, allowing an early update of any entries registered by DLC with the CRA, Upon payment of any settlement balance the entries will be updated as 'partially settled' this would have a positive impact on this particular entry registered on yr credit file. Your current repayment plan has reached the end of its term & it is therefore important that you respond to this letter. Failure to do so could result in the withdrawal of instalments rights on this a/c.
1/5/13
Letter from DLC received (4/5/13). We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand. refer #723 ignore
22/5/13
Letter from DLC received. We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand.
30/5/13 BALANCE: £403.77
Letter from MDB LTD (MERCANTILE DATA BUREAU) received (4/5/13). I have been instructed by DLC an associated company of MDB Ltd, to contact you about the unpaid debt. Yr a/c has been transferred to me due to yr continued failure to discharge yr current liability. All future contact relating to yr a/c should now be with me. I would like to give you the opportunity to discuss yr a/c with me before we undertake any action with yr a/c. I will take into consideration yr current financial circumstances & outline the many options available to help resolve this matter. I urge you to contact me today to conclude this matter as quickly as possible.
5/6/13
Account Sold whilst in Dispute sent (MBD) by recorded.
11/6/13
Letter from DLC received. We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand.
18/6/13
Letter from DLC received (21/6/13). Thank you for yr letter dated 5/6 regarding the above a/c, which has been referred to me by our appointed agent MDB. Hillesden as DLC acquired the above a/c from Lloyds on 28/1/11. We recently appointed our agent MDB to collect the a/c balance on behalf. We received yr CCA request in our office on 30/3/12 & a letter was sent to you at that time to acknowledge receipt of yr request. We referred to Lloyds for a copy of the a/c documentation & still await receipt of this. Pls note that the purpose of a CCA request is to provide information about the a/c to the customer & is not to prove a properly executed agreement exist or to be used as tool to withhold payment. Pls find enclosed a copy of the statement of a/c from our systems showing payment we have received on the a/c up to 28/12/12. Due to this, we assume yr liability ion this matter is not in question. we deny that any harassment has taken place within the meaning of section 1 of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 or under section 40 of the Administration of Justice Act 1970. It is entirely reasonable for us, as the creditor, to communicate directly with the customer in relation to the repayment of an agreement entered into, especially where the customer is not legally represented. Of course, where a customer is legally represented we do communicate with the solicitors directly. Whilst we may not be able to enforce the agreement at this time, the monies remain outstanding. The agreement or any monies pd has not been made illegal or void because of our current failure to supply a copy of the original agreement. We are prevented from taking steps to enforce the credit agreement but the underlying obligation to repay, remains intact. Pls contact our appointed agent to arrange further payments to the a/c. Should you be experiencing financial hardship at this time, pls provide our agent with details of yr current monthly I&E so an appropriate payment plan can be agreed. We would like to take this opportunity to advise that all our agents are trained to understand & empathise with our customer' financial difficulties & work to a policy of fair & realistic treatment for all. refer #716 ignore for now
19/6/13
Letter from MDB received. Unfortunately I have not had a response to my recent letter. This is disappointing as I wanted to give you the opportunity to resolve this matter without the need for a further third party to become involved. Part of my a/c management process involves profilling a/c to pass to doorstep specialists, who may arrange to visit yr home. However, should my enquiries show that you are a home owner or employed/self employed, a third party may be instructed immediately to begin further collection activity. I assume you would rather this together with the additional costs, and therefore strongly advise to ring me today on XXXXXXXXXX.
2/7/13
template-letters threat-of-doorstep-visit sent.
2/7/13
Letter from DLC received (5/7/13). We are following up yr request for a copy of the original documentation (CCA) with the original lender. When this becomes available we will forward a copy to you. Should you require anything further at this point pls contact me. I will update you on developments in 21 days if there are no developments beforehand.
10/7/13
Letter from DLC received (12/7/13). Yr letter dated 25/6/13 addressed to MDB regarding the above a/c has been referred to our offices for attention. We acknowledged yr request for our company to cease contact via telephone in 9/2011; there is no evidence we have contact you other that by letter since that date. Should you have documentary evidence of recent attempts to contact you, pls provide this so the matter can be investigated. Pls note if you do not keep a regular dialogue with us regarding this a/c & update us accordingly, we may choose to re-instate yr contact tel no. to continue collection activity on the a/c when required. If re-instated, you will have a right to object to this processing only if it causes unwarranted & substantial damage or distress. You must provide yr objections i writing under secction 10 of the DPA 1998. You are not correct in yr assertion that our external agents can only call at you home if you agree to make an appointment. The debt is not reasonably disputed or deadlocked & our agents would give you reasonable notice of the timing of any intended visit which is all that is required. We request you now contact MDB to arrange payment of the a/c balance. As we have received payments to the a/c in the past, we assume yr liability in this matter is not in question.
19/7/13
Miss Muddle's UE Diary - Page 8 - allaboutFORUMS sent by recorded (23/7/13). refer #735
30/7/13
Letter from DLC received. Thank you for yr letter dated 19/7 in relation to the a/c. We can confirm & advise the following:- The balance on yr a/c is a debt which has been properly incurred by you under an agreement signed by you & regulated by the CCA. Hillesden is a trading Co which has been registered with Companies Hs4e since 7/92. It is not registered as dormant as you have stated in yr letter. Our registeration no is XXXXX. I note that on 30/3/12 you made a request for information under the CCA 74. We have made request from LLoyds TSB for this information, due to thre age of the a/c the original executed agreement & statement are currently unavailable; pls find enclosed a copy of transaction to date from our system since our acquisition.
Whilst we may not be able to enforce the agreement, the monies remain outstanding. The agreement or any monies pd has not been made illegal or void because of our current failure to supply a copy of the original agreement. We are prevented from taking steps to enforce the credit agreement but the underlying obligation to repay, remain intact. The ruling in the case of McGuffick V RBS clarified the numerous interpretations of what is considered "enforcement". Should you want to view the Judgment in its entirety, it is easily accessible via the Internet. The demanding of payment is not considered enforcement & purely a step taken prior to the commencement of proceedings, therefore yr a/c will remain with our collections dept. for collection activity to continue. As payment have been made towards the balance outstanding, we are under the assumption that yr liability in this matter is not in question. Trust the above information resolves this matter, however, if you require any further clarification pls do not hesitate to contact our office. refer #762-#767 ignore and see what they do next keep letter very safe
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