Dispensing with the "MORALITY" issue

[Deepie]

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Ah PF the very best ones are rolled on the thighs of Cuban virgins or so they tell me!

regards
Garlok

That's some virgin

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That has the ring of someone who's trying to dig themself out of a hole to me I'm afraid. The point I was making was that I agreed with you. You're right! It is what they would say. But, whether or not the courts agree with them, we are talking about morality, and morally they are wrong. That is not up for debate. No customers = no investors, simple as. Thus customers should, morally speaking, come first.

I don't deny they don't, I'm purely concerned with what is being debated here - the moral issue, and morally they are wrong.

As for our democracy, if we must be diverted from the thread's topic, I'm sure I do not need to remind you that in the last election the public could not make up their minds who they wanted in government so we have a coalition. Was that coalition democratically elected? No, it was debated purely among the politicians with the aid of the Civil Service (and since when have they been democratically elected?) Thus your argument is sadly flawed.

No dont think so , the way i read your point is that you are saying your view of the morality is the correct one and the courts is wrong.

Just pointing out that some may accept that our legal system has the right of it.
Hardly a radicle view

Peter

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Yes indeed, £65.5. i believe the government says that this is what a person requires to live on.

Idex linked of course, but to the cpi, not the faster rising and infinately more representative rpi.
Dont get me started
Peter

[caspar]

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Ah PF the very best ones are rolled on the thighs of Cuban virgins or so they tell me!

regards
Garlok

I'd like to make a comment, but I think I'd be barred for life! lol

[caspar]

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Your congratulations are missfouned , there have been many on here that have done what you describe way before my post..
I am sure i doint need to remind you that your opinin is biased by your experiances, as is mine, you say the FD is missplaced they would say otheerwise. The courts and by reflection us, the people, through our democratic system seem to agree with them.

Sorry

That has the ring of someone who's trying to dig themself out of a hole to me I'm afraid. The point I was making was that I agreed with you. You're right! It is what they would say. But, whether or not the courts agree with them, we are talking about morality, and morally they are wrong. That is not up for debate. No customers = no investors, simple as. Thus customers should, morally speaking, come first.

I don't deny they don't, I'm purely concerned with what is being debated here - the moral issue, and morally they are wrong.

As for our democracy, if we must be diverted from the thread's topic, I'm sure I do not need to remind you that in the last election the public could not make up their minds who they wanted in government so we have a coalition. Was that coalition democratically elected? No, it was debated purely among the politicians with the aid of the Civil Service (and since when have they been democratically elected?) Thus your argument is sadly flawed.

[pompeyfaith]

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Damocracy = Greed, look around you energy and commodity prices are rising way above inflation.

The general public just cannot afford it any longer as they are at the end of the rope as pay rises are not going up at the same level.

Look at the privatisation of the energy companies it was done to bring competition only that did not happen as they got together and still kept prices high and carry on inflating those prices.

We are heading for another winter of discontent with the strikes happening this is not getting better but worse with Virgin and southampton city council the latest to join the ranks.

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Ah PF the very best ones are rolled on the thighs of Cuban virgins or so they tell me!

regards
Garlok

Probably why you cant get them here, lack of"rescources". We have i believe plenty of tobacco.

Peter

[midastouch]

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Great minds think alike.

(or dirty ones anyway...)

[garlok]

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Ah PF the very best ones are rolled on the thighs of Cuban virgins or so they tell me!

regards
Garlok

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That is very much a british product and tradition that the cubans do not buy into, however you can get the best cigars in the world from cuba.

Indeed, rolled on the thighs of dusky maidens.
But you cant beat a good cup of tea.

[midastouch]

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That is very much a british product and tradition that the cubans do not buy into, however you can get the best cigars in the world from cuba.

Bill Clinton agrees.

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I could not agree with you more Peter, and by stating this you have successfully concluded the argument against yourself.

You see, what you have said above is correct - their fudiciary duty is without a doubt to their investors. However, this is wrong as without the customers there would be no investors. So they have undoubtedly a misplaced fudiciary duty, which is wrong, which by definition is immoral.

Congratulations on being the first person on here I know to have successfully defeated his own argument.

Your congratulations are missfouned , there have been many on here that have done what you describe way before my post..
I am sure i doint need to remind you that your opinin is biased by your experiances, as is mine, you say the FD is missplaced they would say otheerwise. The courts and by reflection us, the people, through our democratic system seem to agree with them.

Sorry

[pompeyfaith]

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Couldn't get PG tips whilst i was there, what kind of civilisation do you call that

That is very much a british product and tradition that the cubans do not buy into, however you can get the best cigars in the world from cuba.

[garlok]

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Peter I will not be drawn into a political debate or a debate on social policy, a mere analogy was being made. It is you that has made the statements. Of course you are correct in that a profit can be made ethically, BUT unfortunately we are in a situation of total unbridled greed and avarice. You yourself said it on here , "capitalism, that is the way it is"

May I be permitted to just quote something here? You will agree that the Rothschilds are probably one of if not the most powerful banking family in the world?

They are ON THE RECORD as stating: " Give us control of a country's currency and we will control that country's politics, its judiciary and its peoples". (Also they are on record as saying that in banking a 10% profit is both adequate and satisfactory.)

That cannot be in any way be determined as a moral approach can it in the modern so called civilised world. Yet even this family realises the dangers of unbridled capitalism. Judge Chambers in " Harrison" also recognised very clearly what was and is going on.

regards
Garlok

[caspar]

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Oops - thought a smilie would come up.