Help with Unenforceability [UPDATED 01/2020]

[garlok]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

Hi Niddy,

Where do you stand on the basis of no compliant paperwork being held by a creditor in contravention of the Statute Law embodied within CCA1974/2006 and the Statutory Instruments of the 1983 regulations and the copies of Docs regulations?

Breach of Statute Law has to be illegal. Statute cannot even be overturned by the Supreme Court.

Secondly, we have a raft of legislation daily being contravened by the DCAs AND their legal people. daily we have the Tort of Trespass and aggravated trespass (criminal at this point) section 1 of the Protection from Harassment Act 1998, section 40 of the Adminstration of Justice Act 1970 and Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.

Merely unlawful? Its a bit like the argument about should and shall, Oxford English Dictionary defines one as the other. So much confusion exists over this that Statutory legislation often contains definitions of these words and the weight to be attached to each. As I seem to remember in the 1974 Act these definitions do not appear hence section 127 carries more weight.

regards
Garlok

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

being no expert myself but isn't term "illegal" apply to criminal law?
aren't things "unlawful" in civil matters?

My take on this is that when dealing with civil law and specifically dealing with consumer related stuff, we use the term unlawful. It's not necessarily illegal (in the sense we relate to the word illegal) what they are doing, its more unlawful.

Good example, at work it could be classed as illegal to download porn, however they say it is gross misconduct to classify it. At the pub, they say it is illegal to serve alcohol after a certain time (which it would be as it has been passed as a law) however your bank writing to you to repay debt ignoring OFT would be unlawful, again to correctly classify it as they have only breached standards/guidance - they have not broken a law per se

[Susie]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

then then then finally

I think I'll have Garlok as my defence in court (should I ever need one) cos I think everyone will just give in and let me win!

You put into words what I was thinking!!

[diddlydee]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

then then then finally

I think I'll have Garlok as my defence in court (should I ever need one) cos I think everyone will just give in and let me win!

[garlok]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

Thanks AC,

However if you wish jadex in legal speak,

"transgression of any ordinance of the land"

regards
Garlok

[Angry Cat]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

being no expert myself but isn't term "illegal" apply to criminal law?
aren't things "unlawful" in civil matters?

can any expert confirm (or deny) it?

Illegal:
–adjective
1.
forbidden by law or statute.
2.
contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations.

[jadex]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

a useless already ruled illegal application form.

being no expert myself but isn't term "illegal" apply to criminal law?
aren't things "unlawful" in civil matters?

can any expert confirm (or deny) it?

[garlok]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

Hi MGS

I just thought it might add a little to the sarcasm or am I too old? When I was a lad coaches had fish tails on their rooves, half cabs were called charabancs and had names like Leyland Tiger and Leyland Tiger Cub, Guy Wolf. Oh and a sliding door on the side.

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regards
Garlok

[MustGetStraigh]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

Whose next I ask myself? Sunday school charabanc trip organiser?

regards
Garlok

At risk of going completely OT, Charabanc - that's a word you don't hear much these days!

[garlok]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

I have much better translations of those acronyms, but it would inevitably lead to a ban and I am having too much fun here as it is.

However on the Wescot front. They will probably hand it on to their tame solicitors one outfit by the name of Nelson Guest and Partners. Toothless cowardly tigers. one threat of an appearance before the solicitors regulation authority for professional misconduct and it was back with the Hull Heroes before close of business the same day. Their response: laughable bits and pieces of staments and a useless already ruled illegal application form. Threats of legal action against both them and their client has seen it all quieten down.

Whose next I ask myself? Sunday school charabanc trip organiser?

regards
Garlok

[pompeyfaith]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

TDS,

Indeed he does, however that comes from another site that is shite CAG

[The Debt Star]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

AKA Leagle Seagulls - pathetic isn't it!

Now now Caspar, you regularly post there.......

[caspar]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

AKA Leagle Seagulls - pathetic isn't it!

[IF]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

Possible dumb question, but I can't work out what does "LB" acronym used in so many threads stand for?

As far as I can work out it is another forum called LB - Legal Beagles and sometimes referred to OTR - Over The Road too x

[jadex]

Re: Help with Unenforceability

Possible dumb question, but I can't work out what does "LB" acronym used in so many threads stand for?