Parking fine.

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Parking fine.

Feel free. It's good enough to pass off although Paul did say to add a footnote but I forget now.....

[oscar]

Re: Parking fine.

Thanks both.

Niddy, might have to "borrow" your schedule of charges!!

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Parking fine.

I would add,

One should not lie when asked about the driver of the vehicle

however, should the company require you to engage them with discussions then a tariff of charges for such should be returned to the company advising them that you will charge for any time engaged in this matter.

Which will be higher than their alleged claim

[Paul.]

Re: Parking fine.

well then

The contract is with the son

NOT the owner

There is no duty to disclose the driver of the vehicle to a member of the public, only to the police under interalia a section 172 notice

So, simply write back

Please fuck off no contract with you !!!

I would add,

One should not lie when asked about the driver of the vehicle

however, should the company require you to engage them with discussions then a tariff of charges for such should be returned to the company advising them that you will charge for any time engaged in this matter.

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Parking fine.

Hahaha

Or simply quote Arkell v. Pressdram (1971).

(fuckoff)!

[Paul.]

Re: Parking fine.

Photos are not that clear, looks like owners son (who was driving with permission), and yes they were registered keeper (owner that is)

well then

The contract is with the son

NOT the owner

There is no duty to disclose the driver of the vehicle to a member of the public, only to the police under interalia a section 172 notice

So, simply write back

Please fuck off no contract with you !!!

[oscar]

Re: Parking fine.

Question

Who was the driver at that time ? the owner? and were they the registered keeper or a third party?

Photos are not that clear, looks like owners son (who was driving with permission), and yes they were registered keeper (owner that is)

[Paul.]

Re: Parking fine.

another letter recieved from Debt Recovery Plus Ltd (Recovery, investigation and bailiff services )

They first accuse owner of being driver, then ask if vehicle has been sold, then ask for name and address of driver - quoting BPA CoP - "the courts do not look favourably on motorists or consumers who try to withold information from the operators when it has been asked for with genuine, reasonable and proper cause"

Also "this matter may (may being the operative word?) be passed to our solicitor for County Court proceedings"

Assume this is safe to ignore as well?

Question

Who was the driver at that time ? the owner? and were they the registered keeper or a third party?

[oscar]

Re: Parking fine.

another letter recieved from Debt Recovery Plus Ltd (Recovery, investigation and bailiff services )

They first accuse owner of being driver, then ask if vehicle has been sold, then ask for name and address of driver - quoting BPA CoP - "the courts do not look favourably on motorists or consumers who try to withold information from the operators when it has been asked for with genuine, reasonable and proper cause"

Also "this matter may (may being the operative word?) be passed to our solicitor for County Court proceedings"

Assume this is safe to ignore as well?

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Parking fine.

Thread reopened for updates. Do not let's carry on with past comments - please guys.

Oscar, it's all yours matey

[Paul.]

Re: Parking fine.

Well you will there for have lots of paper to paper your loo with

Personally I can't stand selfish arrogant people who think they can park where they want and sod everyone else

Such a nice attitude to live your life by

i wonder what is hard to pay for your parking? why do you think you are so special and you should get it for nothing?

welll

Id refer to the ruling of Lord Cheif Justice Parker in the case of Davis vs Heatley.

Even if a line or sign looks like a sign of that type, if it does not comply with the strict formalities of the law, then no enforcement can be allowed

this applied in a motoring case, where the defendant was accused of crossing a hatched line when the line didnt comply with the law,


If the restriction is invalid you can park there without fear of conviction.

Heres a good website to look at

RMB Consulting

Ive spoken with Richard many times, he is a top bloke and the uks leading expert arguably.

[CleverClogs (RIP)]

Re: Parking fine.

However there is one county in Wales, yes Gwynnedd that does make charges even for those with the Blue Badge.

As do the NHS

I understand that Westminster Council also disregards the Blue Badge scheme, so it clamps and removes cripples' motor cars just as their parking goons might please.

[pompeyfaith]

Re: Parking fine.

However there is one county in Wales, yes Gwynnedd that does make charges even for those with the Blue Badge.

As do the NHS

[garlok]

Re: Parking fine.

I have been graced with the great favour of having a Blue Badge. Which to be honest I use generally only when I need to. However there is one county in Wales, yes Gwynnedd that does make charges even for those with the Blue Badge. I know there is a lot of abuse of these things but in one town (Stafford) where I expected the "iron fist" of the parking warden when I could not find a normal space, the wardens were particularly helpful in finding me a spot and took great delight in telling me that Stafford make no charges for those registered disabled with the badge.

regards
Garlok

[pompeyfaith]

Re: Parking fine.

LooLoo,

Just a search for parking eye will give all the info as to who is right in regards to parking on private land, there is also a report by watchdog on this and other such companies.

Regards