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  • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

    Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
    Tesco cc
    start date 1999
    balance£4730.11
    defaulted 2003
    prorata payments up to date OC

    12/04 CCA sent
    03/05 letter received, dated 21/04, unable to deal with request as it is not signed. returned with 'no sig required' temp
    19/05 letter from D Munn,(7/5) 'HE' is disapointed to note that I have failed to comply with 'OUR' agreement,unles 'HE' receives an immediate payment as arranged 'HE' will have no alternative but to place my account in the hands of an external DCA
    7/6, letter from tesco, Legal and Estates,"futher to my recent request, we enclose copy information held by Tesco Bank provided under the terms of the above act"
    they have sent me the information as quoted under DPA 1998 ??
    will email what I got to Niddy
    missing PT letter will be sent 2mozz
    after sending missing PT letter have just received the same stuff back but with some T&C but i cannot see any date on them so dont know if they are original or varied will send to Niddy for his opinion

    His Niddyship says to ignore, wait and see what happen next
    2013
    31/01 letter from tesco dated 28/01, We are considering legal action to recover your debt, despite writing to you several times, you have still not paid off your credit card balance or made a repayment arrangement with us,we are now considering commencing court proceedings against you to recover this debt.
    it then goes on to explain what this could mean and what may happen if i don't pay the CCJ 1, paid from employer. 2, charging order.
    they would prefer to come to an arrangement to settle the debt and i am to call them immediately to disscuss a repayment plan.
    20/02 was going to send thret o gram template for last letter but forgot to post it (just found it in the car)
    20/02, 2 letters received today both dated 15/02 from Tesco Collections, letter 1, wants me to contact them urgently to discuss my account.
    letter 2,Tesco Recoveries, because of an absence of an acceptable repayment arrangement, and because i haven't contacted them, despite several attempts to discuss the matter, they will shortly commence further action against me with the assistance of DCA or Solicitors. To stop all action I am to make a payment NOW. If no payment or agreed repayment plan is received within 7 days, they will commence further action against you
    22/02 letter sent cross between you hav not sent me my CCA /unenforcable/threat-o gram it was received by them on the 23/02
    11/03 [05/03] letter from Tesco recoveries,Important you must take action-call us today,dispite previous correspondance and our repeated attempts to try and reach an arrangement with you, the debt still remains outstanding.
    we will shortly have no alternative but to seek the assistance of a debt collection agency or, if appropriate, commence legal proceedings against you for the recovery of the debt.
    I am to make an acceptable offer of repayment within the next 7 days
    25/03 letter from Moroncroft (23/03) my account details have been passed to them from Tesco Bank,they are acting as collection agent for them, they will be in contact with me within the next 7 days by letter and/or phone to discuss my repayment options in detail, well tesco can't have a valid CCA, if they can't read and answer my last letter i'll just have to start the ride again
    April
    05/04 SWID letter sent to morons also pointed out all communication in writing only and that I do not give permission to anyone to visit my doorstep so dont try that one.
    06/04 letter from moronics of possible further action if no contact is made by 12/04. I could contact them now and they would be happy to discuss a repayment program, they may also be able to offer a substantial discount off the outstanding balance.
    19/04 letter from moronics thanking me for my recent letter and advising that they will be communicating with their client in respect of my raised query. follow up action will be suspended on my account and they will endeavor to provide me with an appropriate response as soon as possible No rush love, no rush.
    04/05 letter from Morecomics [01/05] Tesco have told them that they completed an agreement request S78 on the 5th June 2012 and also on the 25th June 2012.
    they also advise that the account is on a temporary hold to allow me time to receive this letter and contact them to discuss a payment arrangement I can afford and maintain, if contact is not made promptly, their follow up of the account will recommence. just to make clear. Tesco sent me a photo copy of the signed agreement and T&C dated 2012 but no original T&C and the covering letter said it was sent under the Data Protection Act 1998 , and when I sent the Missing PT letter they sent me the same 2 pages so how have they complied with my CCA request
    UE CCA received letter sent to morcomics
    17/05 letter from moronics(14/05) their clients believe that the documents sent do meet the requirements under s78 of the Consumer Credit Act.They go on to explain what may be omitted from the document and that there is no requirement to provide a signed 'Executed' copy of the agreement.
    their client believe that the balance remains due and payable and they therefore requie immediate payment of the said sum or my realistic proposals for repayment of the same within the next 14 days
    now this is the same problem as I am having with my BOS account,
    they have sent a copy of the front of the signed agreement and a copy of current T&C but no original T&C pertaining to the original agreement. Missing prescribed T&C letters have been sent to both Tesco and BOS but they keep saying they have met their requirements under s78
    any help on what to send next to keep the paper trail on the strait and narrow
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    • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

      Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
      now this is the same problem as I am having with my BOS account,
      they have sent a copy of the front of the signed agreement and a copy of current T&C but no original T&C pertaining to the original agreement. Missing prescribed T&C letters have been sent to both Tesco and BOS but they keep saying they have met their requirements under s78
      any help on what to send next to keep the paper trail on the strait and narrow
      You could try this-----> Final Response - UE (CCA Received)
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      • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

        thanks deepie. I sent that to bos and crappyquest, they sent back saying they had complied with my CCA request see 465# and wanted payment, just wondered if there was anything else that could be sent apart from CPUTR
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        • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

          Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
          thanks deepie. I sent that to bos and crappyquest, they sent back saying they had complied with my CCA request see 465# and wanted payment, just wondered if there was anything else that could be sent apart from CPUTR
          This ?------>Threat by Creditor - Enough is Enough Response
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          • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

            Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
            Tesco cc
            start date 1999
            balance£4730.11
            defaulted 2003
            prorata payments up to date OC

            12/04 CCA sent
            03/05 letter received, dated 21/04, unable to deal with request as it is not signed. returned with 'no sig required' temp
            19/05 letter from D Munn,(7/5) 'HE' is disapointed to note that I have failed to comply with 'OUR' agreement,unles 'HE' receives an immediate payment as arranged 'HE' will have no alternative but to place my account in the hands of an external DCA
            7/6, letter from tesco, Legal and Estates,"futher to my recent request, we enclose copy information held by Tesco Bank provided under the terms of the above act"
            they have sent me the information as quoted under DPA 1998 ??
            will email what I got to Niddy
            missing PT letter will be sent 2mozz
            after sending missing PT letter have just received the same stuff back but with some T&C but i cannot see any date on them so dont know if they are original or varied will send to Niddy for his opinion

            His Niddyship says to ignore, wait and see what happen next
            2013
            31/01 letter from tesco dated 28/01, We are considering legal action to recover your debt, despite writing to you several times, you have still not paid off your credit card balance or made a repayment arrangement with us,we are now considering commencing court proceedings against you to recover this debt.
            it then goes on to explain what this could mean and what may happen if i don't pay the CCJ 1, paid from employer. 2, charging order.
            they would prefer to come to an arrangement to settle the debt and i am to call them immediately to disscuss a repayment plan.
            20/02 was going to send thret o gram template for last letter but forgot to post it (just found it in the car)
            20/02, 2 letters received today both dated 15/02 from Tesco Collections, letter 1, wants me to contact them urgently to discuss my account.
            letter 2,Tesco Recoveries, because of an absence of an acceptable repayment arrangement, and because i haven't contacted them, despite several attempts to discuss the matter, they will shortly commence further action against me with the assistance of DCA or Solicitors. To stop all action I am to make a payment NOW. If no payment or agreed repayment plan is received within 7 days, they will commence further action against you
            22/02 letter sent cross between you hav not sent me my CCA /unenforcable/threat-o gram it was received by them on the 23/02
            11/03 [05/03] letter from Tesco recoveries,Important you must take action-call us today,dispite previous correspondance and our repeated attempts to try and reach an arrangement with you, the debt still remains outstanding.
            we will shortly have no alternative but to seek the assistance of a debt collection agency or, if appropriate, commence legal proceedings against you for the recovery of the debt.
            I am to make an acceptable offer of repayment within the next 7 days
            25/03 letter from Moroncroft (23/03) my account details have been passed to them from Tesco Bank,they are acting as collection agent for them, they will be in contact with me within the next 7 days by letter and/or phone to discuss my repayment options in detail, well tesco can't have a valid CCA, if they can't read and answer my last letter i'll just have to start the ride again
            April
            05/04 SWID letter sent to morons also pointed out all communication in writing only and that I do not give permission to anyone to visit my doorstep so dont try that one.
            06/04 letter from moronics of possible further action if no contact is made by 12/04. I could contact them now and they would be happy to discuss a repayment program, they may also be able to offer a substantial discount off the outstanding balance.
            19/04 letter from moronics thanking me for my recent letter and advising that they will be communicating with their client in respect of my raised query. follow up action will be suspended on my account and they will endeavor to provide me with an appropriate response as soon as possible No rush love, no rush.
            04/05 letter from Morecomics [01/05] Tesco have told them that they completed an agreement request S78 on the 5th June 2012 and also on the 25th June 2012.
            they also advise that the account is on a temporary hold to allow me time to receive this letter and contact them to discuss a payment arrangement I can afford and maintain, if contact is not made promptly, their follow up of the account will recommence. just to make clear. Tesco sent me a photo copy of the signed agreement and T&C dated 2012 but no original T&C and the covering letter said it was sent under the Data Protection Act 1998 , and when I sent the Missing PT letter they sent me the same 2 pages so how have they complied with my CCA request
            UE CCA received letter sent to morcomics
            17/05 letter from moronics(14/05) their clients believe that the documents sent do meet the requirements under s78 of the Consumer Credit Act.They go on to explain what may be omitted from the document and that there is no requirement to provide a signed 'Executed' copy of the agreement.
            their client believe that the balance remains due and payable and they therefore require immediate payment of the said sum or my realistic proposals for repayment of the same within the next 14 days
            21/05 letter from morecomics(20/5) to prevent further action I am to send my payment proposal before 27/05 or telephone them within the next 7 days sorry their last letter dated 14th states 14 days 14+14= 28, so they can wait
            If i do not contact them following receipt of this letter they MAY have no alternativeother than to recommend to their clients that they consider further debt recovery action against me deary me I'm quivering in my armchair. no PT, no compliant CCA. sorted
            forgot to say, they MAY be able to offer me a substantial discount from the outstanding balance
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            • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

              Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
              forgot to say, they MAY be able to offer me a substantial discount from the outstanding balance
              Well that makes all the difference then .

              I had a few of them saying it was 'on the reverse'. It doesn't mean diddly as long as they haven't put 'which is on the reverse of this Agreement' after the 'Sign if you want to blah blah blah...' Same for 'on separate sheets'.

              I use to send a 'Thank you for sending some Generic T & C's that you have downloaded from the Web. Whilst they may be an example of similar which could have been used by you, or others, at some point in the past, present or ,indeed, future they are not what I have asked for'.

              Keep pushing, yoiu'll get there.

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              • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

                Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
                Tsb trustcard/lloyds cc
                still with OC
                start date 1978
                taken over by Lloyds 1982
                ballance £5662.27
                defaulted 2002
                have just stopped payment as niddy says
                26/04 letter from Ltsb "your repayments are in arrears and a payment of £12.00 is required" to avoid further action all payments should be made on the due date agreed.

                29/05 Letter from Credit Security Ltd, re Lloyds Tsb, they have been instructed by our client to recover the outstanding debt

                to clarify this account, we sent for a CCA,2010, we had back just T&C nothing to link it to the account, and a letter stating that as the account was so old they did'nt have to send a copy of the agreement, but we would have signed one and they will look.
                sent a letter under CPUTR asking if they had an agreement or not, replied that we would have signed one and will send it when found, Final responce
                SAR sent in the middle is a couple of emails sent to recoberys and back
                1, out: client asks for agreement
                2,rep: cannot be found, not req from central storage and recoverys as account before the system was started

                11/06 letter from Credit security ltd(8/6), they cannot trace receipt of our reply to their recent letter thats coz i diddn't send one
                they DEMAND that the sum stated be sent direct to their office IMMEDIATELY using the pay slip attached
                failure to do so 'could' result in a DEBT COLLECTOR calling upon us, or the account being refered for legal action
                they have still not stated if they have been assigned or sold this account
                25/06 letter from Cred sec ltd, dated 22/06, " Dear Mr Nightwatch. You have chosen to disreguard our and our clients previous letters.so they noticed
                we do not intend to remind you of your obligations to repay monies owed. then stop sending me letters
                If we do not receive a payment and payment proposal within 7 days our DOORSTEP COLLECTOR will be instructed to call upon you for payment the last doorstep collector took it
                If payment is not forthcoming we will refer the account to our client with a recommendation for LEGAL ACTION as stated in our previous letter.

                letter dated 06/07 from credit security following their recent communication they are pleased to inform us that their client is willing to accept the dum of £4246.70 providing its paid by the 16/07, this will be accepted as partial payment in full and final settlement of the account and the credit file will be updated accordingly.

                now to take advantage of this 25% reduction I only have to find £4246.50 (I have 20p) and have it at their office together with the attached slip at the bottom of the letter, no later than MONDAY 16/07/2012

                letter dated 09/10/12 from Apex Credit Management,Re Lloyds TSB.it is still with CSL as far as i know? Their client is aware of the difficult financial circumstances that a number of their customers are currently experiencing. must be a lot of us not paying!
                as a result they have been authorised to consider a discounted settlement figure against the debt and may be able to offer a substantial discount on the balance, wonder if its any better than the 25% CSL were offering? they would like to explore this option with us, new one on me BUT, it is only available for a period of 10 days from the date of the letter. pity i'm sure it will take me longer to explore my options
                To confirm eligibility and take advantage of this enchanced opportunity to clear this debt,we are to contact them without delay, will have a think about that ???? errrrm NO

                24/10 letter from apex,( 22/10/12) they are dissapointed that despite their efforts to contact (us twice a day by phone) we have failed to reach any agreement with them, they think we are simply avoiding paying this debt and they must therefore act in the best intrest of their client???
                they apparently use !! External Data sources to profile our accounts and believe that you have the abillity to make payments on this account.
                Consequently our account will be passed to their internal litigation team in order to consider the best course of action for recovery of the debt outstanding, This MAY include legal action to obtain a CCJ which we may then seek to enforce by way of a charging order or attachment to earnings application.
                contact us to prevent further action on this account.WE can take control of our finanices by taking positive action.
                will send Sold while in dispute on monday sent
                01/11 letter from Apex (31/10)They are sorry to learn that we have had to raise concerns about the account, they will be conducting a thorough investigation into our concerns, When it is complete they will contact us again.
                they enclosed a copy of their complaints procedure

                17/11 rather long letter from Apex,So to condense it. Reply to sold in dispute letter. they have been in contact with their client who state, they have no record on their system of receiving a CCA request or the £1.00 fee, they have asked that we contact them with a copy of our CCA request and proof that they cashed the £1.00 fee. This was sent in 2010 and shows on a SAR asked for in 2011
                they then waffle on about carey and Judge Wacksman stating that the debtor has a legitimate interest in seeing a copy of the agreement he signed, not in the sense of proof of execution, but as information
                Under their complaints procedure this is their final responce and they have placed the account on hold for 28 days for us to contact Lloyds with the paperwork requested

                8/12 Statement of account from LLoyds but with Apex ref and address on it, showing the last payment in dec 2011, Will be sending letter to Apex monday, stating the CCA was requested in 2010 and it was responded to bt Lloyds, who assured me that we would of signed an agreement, and said they would send me a copy when they find it . also pointing out that their final responce is a pile off crap as I had not made a formal complaint to them.

                11/12 letter sent to apex, pointing out that the cca request was sent in 2010 and lloyds responded to it,also pointed out that the reply from lloyds to my cputr letter said, that we would of signed an agreement and they will send it when found, i am still waiting,
                21/12 letter from apex 19/12, they seem to be back-tracking a touch. they point out that lloyds are the legal owners and they are only acting under instruction from lloyds to recover the debt. as such they are dependant upon the quality of information supplied by lloyds
                they reiterate that lloyds cannot find any request made by us nor can they locate having received the £1.00 fee.
                they have re-refered the account back to lloyds to request they recall the account as they do not believe they can facilitate a mutually benificial arrangement on it
                2013

                27/04; letter with Lloyds TSB logo on posted on 25/04 but, it came in a robson way envelope and the address header on the letter is PO box 66, Rosyth ? when did the account move to Scotland
                any way they go on to say;- As we havent been able to agree a suitable repayment plan, we have transferred your CC account to Robbers way they have been instructed to arrange collection of the outstanding amount WE are to contact RW asap to arrange to payback the outstanding balance cheeky boogars want us to do their job. they'll wait a long time,
                1/05 letter from robbing ways(29/04) we have to pay them the outstanding balance without delay. If we do not pay or agree a repayment play they MAY advise their client to start court Proceedings, If a court considers our failure to pay to be due to neglect an order to pay may be made. they go on to list what May happen if we get an order to pay and we don't. they also point out that ' this account may continue to be a worry for us
                letter sent to RW thanking them for their threatening letter of introduction and pointing out that the said account has been in dispute since 2011
                14/05 letter from RW dated 13/05 headed Immediate action required, I am to call them without delay to pay by my card ? do they take Nectar points ? If we fail to pay further action MAY be taken to recover the amount due etc etc etc...
                will ignore as they signed for my SWID letter yesterday
                24/05 letter from robbingways(23/05) they would like us to note that ,they note our dispute/query we have raised. They will make all the necessary inquireies and let us know the outcome in due course. They will stop all colection activity for this account for now. If they can be of any further assistance we are to let them know do they do gardens or decorating free ?
                can't wait to see what they come back with
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                • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

                  Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
                  can't wait to see what they come back with
                  do they do gardens or decorating free ?

                  They certainly have enough manure to make the desert bloom.

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                  • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

                    Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
                    Tsb trustcard/lloyds cc
                    still with OC
                    start date 1978
                    taken over by Lloyds 1982
                    ballance £5662.27
                    defaulted 2002
                    have just stopped payment as niddy says
                    26/04 letter from Ltsb "your repayments are in arrears and a payment of £12.00 is required" to avoid further action all payments should be made on the due date agreed.

                    29/05 Letter from Credit Security Ltd, re Lloyds Tsb, they have been instructed by our client to recover the outstanding debt

                    to clarify this account, we sent for a CCA,2010, we had back just T&C nothing to link it to the account, and a letter stating that as the account was so old they did'nt have to send a copy of the agreement, but we would have signed one and they will look.
                    sent a letter under CPUTR asking if they had an agreement or not, replied that we would have signed one and will send it when found, Final responce
                    SAR sent in the middle is a couple of emails sent to recoberys and back
                    1, out: client asks for agreement
                    2,rep: cannot be found, not req from central storage and recoverys as account before the system was started

                    11/06 letter from Credit security ltd(8/6), they cannot trace receipt of our reply to their recent letter thats coz i diddn't send one
                    they DEMAND that the sum stated be sent direct to their office IMMEDIATELY using the pay slip attached
                    failure to do so 'could' result in a DEBT COLLECTOR calling upon us, or the account being refered for legal action
                    they have still not stated if they have been assigned or sold this account
                    25/06 letter from Cred sec ltd, dated 22/06, " Dear Mr Nightwatch. You have chosen to disreguard our and our clients previous letters.so they noticed
                    we do not intend to remind you of your obligations to repay monies owed. then stop sending me letters
                    If we do not receive a payment and payment proposal within 7 days our DOORSTEP COLLECTOR will be instructed to call upon you for payment the last doorstep collector took it
                    If payment is not forthcoming we will refer the account to our client with a recommendation for LEGAL ACTION as stated in our previous letter.

                    letter dated 06/07 from credit security following their recent communication they are pleased to inform us that their client is willing to accept the dum of £4246.70 providing its paid by the 16/07, this will be accepted as partial payment in full and final settlement of the account and the credit file will be updated accordingly.

                    now to take advantage of this 25% reduction I only have to find £4246.50 (I have 20p) and have it at their office together with the attached slip at the bottom of the letter, no later than MONDAY 16/07/2012

                    letter dated 09/10/12 from Apex Credit Management,Re Lloyds TSB.it is still with CSL as far as i know? Their client is aware of the difficult financial circumstances that a number of their customers are currently experiencing. must be a lot of us not paying!
                    as a result they have been authorised to consider a discounted settlement figure against the debt and may be able to offer a substantial discount on the balance, wonder if its any better than the 25% CSL were offering? they would like to explore this option with us, new one on me BUT, it is only available for a period of 10 days from the date of the letter. pity i'm sure it will take me longer to explore my options
                    To confirm eligibility and take advantage of this enchanced opportunity to clear this debt,we are to contact them without delay, will have a think about that ???? errrrm NO

                    24/10 letter from apex,( 22/10/12) they are dissapointed that despite their efforts to contact (us twice a day by phone) we have failed to reach any agreement with them, they think we are simply avoiding paying this debt and they must therefore act in the best intrest of their client???
                    they apparently use !! External Data sources to profile our accounts and believe that you have the abillity to make payments on this account.
                    Consequently our account will be passed to their internal litigation team in order to consider the best course of action for recovery of the debt outstanding, This MAY include legal action to obtain a CCJ which we may then seek to enforce by way of a charging order or attachment to earnings application.
                    contact us to prevent further action on this account.WE can take control of our finanices by taking positive action.
                    will send Sold while in dispute on monday sent
                    01/11 letter from Apex (31/10)They are sorry to learn that we have had to raise concerns about the account, they will be conducting a thorough investigation into our concerns, When it is complete they will contact us again.
                    they enclosed a copy of their complaints procedure

                    17/11 rather long letter from Apex,So to condense it. Reply to sold in dispute letter. they have been in contact with their client who state, they have no record on their system of receiving a CCA request or the £1.00 fee, they have asked that we contact them with a copy of our CCA request and proof that they cashed the £1.00 fee. This was sent in 2010 and shows on a SAR asked for in 2011
                    they then waffle on about carey and Judge Wacksman stating that the debtor has a legitimate interest in seeing a copy of the agreement he signed, not in the sense of proof of execution, but as information
                    Under their complaints procedure this is their final responce and they have placed the account on hold for 28 days for us to contact Lloyds with the paperwork requested

                    8/12 Statement of account from LLoyds but with Apex ref and address on it, showing the last payment in dec 2011, Will be sending letter to Apex monday, stating the CCA was requested in 2010 and it was responded to by Lloyds, who assured me that we would of signed an agreement, and said they would send me a copy when they find it . also pointing out that their final response is a pile off crap as I had not made a formal complaint to them.

                    11/12 letter sent to apex, pointing out that the cca request was sent in 2010 and lloyds responded to it,also pointed out that the reply from lloyds to my cputr letter said, that we would of signed an agreement and they will send it when found, i am still waiting,
                    21/12 letter from apex 19/12, they seem to be back-tracking a touch. they point out that lloyds are the legal owners and they are only acting under instruction from lloyds to recover the debt. as such they are dependant upon the quality of information supplied by lloyds
                    they reiterate that lloyds cannot find any request made by us nor can they locate having received the £1.00 fee.
                    they have re-refered the account back to lloyds to request they recall the account as they do not believe they can facilitate a mutually benificial arrangement on it
                    2013

                    27/04; letter with Lloyds TSB logo on posted on 25/04 but, it came in a robson way envelope and the address header on the letter is PO box 66, Rosyth ? when did the account move to Scotland
                    any way they go on to say;- As we havent been able to agree a suitable repayment plan, we have transferred your CC account to Robbers way they have been instructed to arrange collection of the outstanding amount WE are to contact RW asap to arrange to payback the outstanding balance cheeky boogars want us to do their job. they'll wait a long time,
                    1/05 letter from robbing ways(29/04) we have to pay them the outstanding balance without delay. If we do not pay or agree a repayment play they MAY advise their client to start court Proceedings, If a court considers our failure to pay to be due to neglect an order to pay may be made. they go on to list what May happen if we get an order to pay and we don't. they also point out that ' this account may continue to be a worry for us
                    letter sent to RW thanking them for their threatening letter of introduction and pointing out that the said account has been in dispute since 2011
                    14/05 letter from RW dated 13/05 headed Immediate action required, I am to call them without delay to pay by my card ? do they take Nectar points ? If we fail to pay further action MAY be taken to recover the amount due etc etc etc...
                    will ignore as they signed for my SWID letter yesterday
                    24/05 letter from robbingways(23/05) they would like us to note that ,they note our dispute/query we have raised. They will make all the necessary inquireies and let us know the outcome in due course. They will stop all collection activity for this account for now. If they can be of any further assistance we are to let them know do they do gardens or decorating free ?
                    6/6 letter from Robbing ways(3/6)In response to our recent contact, their client(lloyds) has advised them that require us to forward a copy of our CCA request to enable further investigation. they will hold our account for 14 days
                    will send letter pointing out CCa was sent in 2010 was replied to with, 'You would of signed an agreement and they will send it when found'
                    as was the CPUTR letter, and that I am still waiting
                    I had in fact already pointed out the last fact to RW, but I will make it clearer that I also sent a CPUTR request that they replied to with the same statement
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                    • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

                      Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
                      Tesco cc
                      start date 1999
                      balance£4730.11
                      defaulted 2003
                      prorata payments up to date OC

                      12/04 CCA sent
                      03/05 letter received, dated 21/04, unable to deal with request as it is not signed. returned with 'no sig required' temp
                      19/05 letter from D Munn,(7/5) 'HE' is disapointed to note that I have failed to comply with 'OUR' agreement,unles 'HE' receives an immediate payment as arranged 'HE' will have no alternative but to place my account in the hands of an external DCA
                      7/6, letter from tesco, Legal and Estates,"futher to my recent request, we enclose copy information held by Tesco Bank provided under the terms of the above act"
                      they have sent me the information as quoted under DPA 1998 ??
                      will email what I got to Niddy
                      missing PT letter will be sent 2mozz
                      after sending missing PT letter have just received the same stuff back but with some T&C but i cannot see any date on them so dont know if they are original or varied will send to Niddy for his opinion

                      His Niddyship says to ignore, wait and see what happen next
                      2013
                      31/01 letter from tesco dated 28/01, We are considering legal action to recover your debt, despite writing to you several times, you have still not paid off your credit card balance or made a repayment arrangement with us,we are now considering commencing court proceedings against you to recover this debt.
                      it then goes on to explain what this could mean and what may happen if i don't pay the CCJ 1, paid from employer. 2, charging order.
                      they would prefer to come to an arrangement to settle the debt and i am to call them immediately to disscuss a repayment plan.
                      20/02 was going to send thret o gram template for last letter but forgot to post it (just found it in the car)
                      20/02, 2 letters received today both dated 15/02 from Tesco Collections, letter 1, wants me to contact them urgently to discuss my account.
                      letter 2,Tesco Recoveries, because of an absence of an acceptable repayment arrangement, and because i haven't contacted them, despite several attempts to discuss the matter, they will shortly commence further action against me with the assistance of DCA or Solicitors. To stop all action I am to make a payment NOW. If no payment or agreed repayment plan is received within 7 days, they will commence further action against you
                      22/02 letter sent cross between you hav not sent me my CCA /unenforcable/threat-o gram it was received by them on the 23/02
                      11/03 [05/03] letter from Tesco recoveries,Important you must take action-call us today,dispite previous correspondance and our repeated attempts to try and reach an arrangement with you, the debt still remains outstanding.
                      we will shortly have no alternative but to seek the assistance of a debt collection agency or, if appropriate, commence legal proceedings against you for the recovery of the debt.
                      I am to make an acceptable offer of repayment within the next 7 days
                      25/03 letter from Moroncroft (23/03) my account details have been passed to them from Tesco Bank,they are acting as collection agent for them, they will be in contact with me within the next 7 days by letter and/or phone to discuss my repayment options in detail, well tesco can't have a valid CCA, if they can't read and answer my last letter i'll just have to start the ride again
                      April
                      05/04 SWID letter sent to morons also pointed out all communication in writing only and that I do not give permission to anyone to visit my doorstep so dont try that one.
                      06/04 letter from moronics of possible further action if no contact is made by 12/04. I could contact them now and they would be happy to discuss a repayment program, they may also be able to offer a substantial discount off the outstanding balance.
                      19/04 letter from moronics thanking me for my recent letter and advising that they will be communicating with their client in respect of my raised query. follow up action will be suspended on my account and they will endeavor to provide me with an appropriate response as soon as possible No rush love, no rush.
                      04/05 letter from Morecomics [01/05] Tesco have told them that they completed an agreement request S78 on the 5th June 2012 and also on the 25th June 2012.
                      they also advise that the account is on a temporary hold to allow me time to receive this letter and contact them to discuss a payment arrangement I can afford and maintain, if contact is not made promptly, their follow up of the account will recommence. just to make clear. Tesco sent me a photo copy of the signed agreement and T&C dated 2012 but no original T&C and the covering letter said it was sent under the Data Protection Act 1998 , and when I sent the Missing PT letter they sent me the same 2 pages so how have they complied with my CCA request
                      UE CCA received letter sent to morcomics
                      17/05 letter from moronics(14/05) their clients believe that the documents sent do meet the requirements under s78 of the Consumer Credit Act.They go on to explain what may be omitted from the document and that there is no requirement to provide a signed 'Executed' copy of the agreement.
                      their client believe that the balance remains due and payable and they therefore require immediate payment of the said sum or my realistic proposals for repayment of the same within the next 14 days
                      21/05 letter from morecomics(20/5) to prevent further action I am to send my payment proposal before 27/05 or telephone them within the next 7 days sorry their last letter dated 14th states 14 days 14+14= 28, so they can wait
                      If i do not contact them following receipt of this letter they MAY have no alternative other than to recommend to their clients that they consider further debt recovery action against me deary me I'm quivering in my armchair. no PT, no compliant CCA. sorted
                      6/6 letter from Morecomics (3/6) as they have not received any communication from me with regards to my outstanding account, they feel that I may not be in a position to meet their request to clear the account in full.gosh they get have feelings
                      to prevent their recommendation to their client that further debt recovery action be considered they are prepared to accept payments of £120 a month,to take advantage of this offer I must,
                      contact them by phone err no
                      make payment by website erm No
                      send payment attached to letter and no again
                      if I do not reply I MAY leave them with no other option but to recommend to their client that they CONSIDER further debt recovery action against me
                      I have already sent UE CCA received to this lot but the reply was Tesco say they complied, any suggestions?
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                      • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

                        I'd be inclined to ignore it. Or you could send a one-liner referring them to your CCA Received letter if you want to keep a paper trail.
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                        • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

                          Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
                          Lombard cc
                          started 1999
                          ballance £2933.05
                          Defaulted 2008
                          prorata payments to date

                          12/04 CCA sent
                          04/05 letter received (25/04) cannot comply with request as they need my signiture
                          no sig req letter sent
                          02/06 letter rec,containing original req and payment, no sig req letter, and a covering letter/template,cannot comply without signing request

                          ok this is getting stupid now.
                          06/07 letter received dated 29/06, they cannot deal with my request as there is no signiture, they have sent back to me the original req and the payment,wthe the 1st sig req letter, the 1st no sig req letter from me, 2nd sig req letter, 2nd you are not having a signiture letter. a new we want a signiture letter and the Envelope I sent them all back in last time

                          27/07 letter from Mr Munn at Lombard, he is dissapointed that I have failed to comply with our agreement, and unless i make an immediate payment to my account and regular payments thereafter, he will have no alternative but to place my account in the hands of external DCAs without prior warning
                          14/08 letter from lombard dated 03/08 as I have failed to respond to the banks previous demands(er they refused to send my CCA without a signiture)
                          they have no alternativebut to commence further proceedings for the recovery of the outstanding balance, failure to contact this office within 7 days, 'MAY' result in my account being transfered to external dca without further warning or delay I take it that as it took 11 days to get the letter they 'MAY' have done so already

                          letter sent to lombard along the lines of, stop playing silly buggers I made a CCA request it is not a DPA request so you dont need a signiture, sent back original CCA and £1.00 payment wanted a reply in 7 days

                          01/09/12 letter from Triton Credit Services dated 23/08. Lombard bank has placed your account with us for Immediate collection,
                          To avoid further action I am requested to forward a Cheque for the full amount by return, If I am unable to make this payment by return I am asked to telephone the office immediately by return of what? is Triton not part of RBS?
                          sold in dispute letter sent to triton
                          8/9/12 letter from Lombard dated 5/9 they return my CCA request AGAIN(stamped as received 28/9/12) as they require a signiture,

                          21/09 letter from triton(17/09) Notice of legal proceedings, they remain very dissapointed that I have failed to settle the debt or make satisfactory repayment proposals
                          they have now recomended to Lombard that solicitors should be instructed to commence court proceedings against me for the recovery of the debt
                          they appear to have ignored my "sold in dispute letter" and the fact that Lombard have refused to send my CCA 5 times,
                          I'm sure a court will be happy to listen to why they have refused, when a signiture is not needed, and why they have never answered any questions asked in subsiquent letters to them.

                          26/09 letter fromTriton dated 21/09, they refer to my recent correspondence sold in dispute letter
                          in view of the nature of my request they will be discussing my account with lombard, who will contact me in due course

                          The information provided on my financial statement has not been fully compleated. errmm I haven't sent them one
                          In order for them to consider my financial statement can I provide my proposals for the above account ermm my proposal is that untill i receive a Valid CCA from lombard you can whistle
                          they trust this clarifies the situation for me and await my response It's as clear as mud

                          13/10 letter from Loonybard.(09/10) it is AGAIN the same template letter stating that they require my signiture, but I can't sign it because:-

                          this time they have kept the original request and the fee, and have returned a copy of my 'Sold in Dispute letter' that was digitaly signed. they just get more impossable to understand

                          02/11, letter from Green & Co Solicitors(29/10) they are instructed by their client, Try it on, who are instructed by, loony barn bank, in connection to my Liability.
                          dispite a formal demand for repayment this account remains unpaid and they are likely to be instructed to commence court proceedings against me, without further notice
                          HOWEVER i have one final opportunity to make payment of the above ammount within the next 7 days, Cheques should be made payable to Try-it-on and sent to the address given,
                          should their client not receive payment or accepable payment proposals within 7 days, they are then likely to be to be instructed to commence court proceedings against me on their clients behalf
                          23/11 letter from Green & co account refered back to Tri-it -on
                          30/11 letter from Lombard, dated 26th. as they have been unable to contact me or agree a suitable repayment plan they have passed all my account details to Allied international Credit(uk) to act as a collection agent, they should be incontact with me in the next 14 days to discuss my repayment options in detail. now why would they think I am suddenly going to start paying Allied if they can't get anything out of me? and my payment options would be " you send my CCA, and we will discuss from there!
                          15/12/12 letter from AIC (10/12) they have been passed my details by Lombard to act as collecting agents for my account, whoopy doo

                          they have a flexable approach to to repaying my account, If i am in financial difficulty their staff are FULLY TRAINED to assist me with my current situation, and have a range of options to help How wonderfull
                          they will be incontact with me in the next 7 days by letter/and or phone to discuss my payment options in detail, or i could phone them.
                          sold in dispute letter sent 18/12
                          21/01/13 letter from AIC we have not heard from you
                          26/01 in dispute letter sent pointing out no CCA has ever been received , even though I had pointed this fact out to Tryton, Green & Co, also will not discuss over phone written comunication only.

                          06/02 letter from AIC dated JANUARY 21 2013 , we have been unable to come to an acceptable agreement
                          16/02 letter from AIC(11/02) Early settlement offer, as my account remains unpaid they are reviewing my file to consider if further action is warranted,
                          at this point there is an offer on my account that would allow me to settle the outstanding balance with a discounted value, this payment can be made in upto 4 monthly instalments.I am to contact them for for the details,
                          If I am unable to meet the agreed settlement I must not hesitate to call and discuss my account where they would be happy to arrange a repayment option based on my current circumstances
                          6/6 letter from Lombard (29/5) they have now passed my account details to Fredickson International ltd, to act as their new collection agent, any queries about my account should now be addressed to them. Freds will be in contact during the next 14 days BY LETTER to discuss my repayment options in detail. no CCA no discussion sorted
                          will wait for freds to contact and then send SWID
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                          • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

                            had 3 emails from cabot today,all 1 min apart, all say 'Repaying your balance' but dont know what balance as they wont open!! oh well what a pity
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                            • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

                              Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
                              Tesco cc
                              start date 1999
                              balance£4730.11
                              defaulted 2003
                              prorata payments up to date OC

                              12/04 CCA sent
                              03/05 letter received, dated 21/04, unable to deal with request as it is not signed. returned with 'no sig required' temp
                              19/05 letter from D Munn,(7/5) 'HE' is disapointed to note that I have failed to comply with 'OUR' agreement,unles 'HE' receives an immediate payment as arranged 'HE' will have no alternative but to place my account in the hands of an external DCA
                              7/6, letter from tesco, Legal and Estates,"futher to my recent request, we enclose copy information held by Tesco Bank provided under the terms of the above act"
                              they have sent me the information as quoted under DPA 1998 ??
                              will email what I got to Niddy
                              missing PT letter will be sent 2mozz
                              after sending missing PT letter have just received the same stuff back but with some T&C but i cannot see any date on them so don't know if they are original or varied will send to Niddy for his opinion

                              His Niddyship says to ignore, wait and see what happen next
                              2013
                              31/01 letter from tesco dated 28/01, We are considering legal action to recover your debt, despite writing to you several times, you have still not paid off your credit card balance or made a repayment arrangement with us,we are now considering commencing court proceedings against you to recover this debt.
                              it then goes on to explain what this could mean and what may happen if i don't pay the CCJ 1, paid from employer. 2, charging order.
                              they would prefer to come to an arrangement to settle the debt and i am to call them immediately to disscuss a repayment plan.
                              20/02 was going to send thret o gram template for last letter but forgot to post it (just found it in the car)
                              20/02, 2 letters received today both dated 15/02 from Tesco Collections, letter 1, wants me to contact them urgently to discuss my account.
                              letter 2,Tesco Recoveries, because of an absence of an acceptable repayment arrangement, and because i haven't contacted them, despite several attempts to discuss the matter, they will shortly commence further action against me with the assistance of DCA or Solicitors. To stop all action I am to make a payment NOW. If no payment or agreed repayment plan is received within 7 days, they will commence further action against you
                              22/02 letter sent cross between you have not sent me my CCA /unenforceable/threat-o gram it was received by them on the 23/02
                              11/03 [05/03] letter from Tesco recoveries,Important you must take action-call us today,despite previous correspondence and our repeated attempts to try and reach an arrangement with you, the debt still remains outstanding.
                              we will shortly have no alternative but to seek the assistance of a debt collection agency or, if appropriate, commence legal proceedings against you for the recovery of the debt.
                              I am to make an acceptable offer of repayment within the next 7 days
                              25/03 letter from Moroncroft (23/03) my account details have been passed to them from Tesco Bank,they are acting as collection agent for them, they will be in contact with me within the next 7 days by letter and/or phone to discuss my repayment options in detail, well tesco can't have a valid CCA, if they can't read and answer my last letter i'll just have to start the ride again
                              April
                              05/04 SWID letter sent to morons also pointed out all communication in writing only and that I do not give permission to anyone to visit my doorstep so dont try that one.
                              06/04 letter from moronics of possible further action if no contact is made by 12/04. I could contact them now and they would be happy to discuss a repayment program, they may also be able to offer a substantial discount off the outstanding balance.
                              19/04 letter from moronics thanking me for my recent letter and advising that they will be communicating with their client in respect of my raised query. follow up action will be suspended on my account and they will endeavor to provide me with an appropriate response as soon as possible No rush love, no rush.
                              04/05 letter from Morecomics [01/05] Tesco have told them that they completed an agreement request S78 on the 5th June 2012 and also on the 25th June 2012.
                              they also advise that the account is on a temporary hold to allow me time to receive this letter and contact them to discuss a payment arrangement I can afford and maintain, if contact is not made promptly, their follow up of the account will recommence. just to make clear. Tesco sent me a photo copy of the signed agreement and T&C dated 2012 but no original T&C and the covering letter said it was sent under the Data Protection Act 1998 , and when I sent the Missing PT letter they sent me the same 2 pages so how have they complied with my CCA request
                              UE CCA received letter sent to morcomics
                              17/05 letter from moronics(14/05) their clients believe that the documents sent do meet the requirements under s78 of the Consumer Credit Act.They go on to explain what may be omitted from the document and that there is no requirement to provide a signed 'Executed' copy of the agreement.
                              their client believe that the balance remains due and payable and they therefore require immediate payment of the said sum or my realistic proposals for repayment of the same within the next 14 days
                              21/05 letter from morecomics(20/5) to prevent further action I am to send my payment proposal before 27/05 or telephone them within the next 7 days sorry their last letter dated 14th states 14 days 14+14= 28, so they can wait
                              If i do not contact them following receipt of this letter they MAY have no alternative other than to recommend to their clients that they consider further debt recovery action against me deary me I'm quivering in my armchair. no PT, no compliant CCA. sorted
                              6/6 letter from Morecomics (3/6) as they have not received any communication from me with regards to my outstanding account, they feel that I may not be in a position to meet their request to clear the account in full.gosh they have feelings
                              to prevent their recommendation to their client that further debt recovery action be considered they are prepared to accept payments of £120 a month,to take advantage of this offer I must,
                              contact them by phone err no
                              make payment by website erm No
                              send payment attached to letter and no again
                              if I do not reply I MAY leave them with no other option but to recommend to their client that they CONSIDER further debt recovery action against me
                              18/6 letter from Midas cs,(17/06) they are aware that i have not agreed a repayment for this debt with moronics. they are now reviewing the account prior to the possible recommending of further debt recovery action to their clients.Now are thay talking about Tesco or morcomics being their client
                              they would remind me that unless we can agree a settlement of this account, the default which their client may have registered against my credit file will remain unchanged. are they using a default as a threat , cos the Tesco wouldn't remove it anyway To prevent possible further action I must contact Morecrap now.
                              what to do!, what to do!
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                              • Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

                                Originally posted by nightwatch View Post
                                what to do!, what to do!
                                nothing! Youre not worried about a default, are you?
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