Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

[SaltnVinegar]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

ME childish!!! never

I'd love to see you put a letter together containing pretty much all the red stuff you have above and sending it to them!

[nightwatch]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

Sainsbury cc
started 1999
ballance £2277.74
defaulr 2008
now with Cabot
prorata payments to date

CCA sent
Account on hold
31/10 letter from cabot . Please find enclosed all of the relevant information you requested under s77-78 of the CCA1974 We can confirm that we have provided a reconstituted true copy of your credit agreement, which for the avoidance of doubt complies with the Consumer Credit cancellation Notices and copies of documents regulations 1983 and therefore complies with the obligations set out in section[77-78 of the CCA 1974
What Happens next; as we have now complied with your request for information We are able to enforce the credit agreement, which you signed and entered into.Enforcement means that we are able to obtain a County Court judgment against you. however we would prefer that you work with us to set up a repayment plan to settle your outstanding balance
Now me thinks they are being a bit hasty with the threat of CCJ as all they have sent is a copy of some un-dated terms with my name and address on them and a Your right to cancel in the middle between item 4.2 and 5 and a print out of payments made, no sight of the original application or the TC when taken out, so they are FIBBING when they say they can confirm its a recon TRUE copy of my credit agreement
06/11 letter to crapup T&C received

15/11 letter from crapbot, they point out that my balance is £2277.74 and thank me for reducing it to this,they say an ideal solution would be for me to be able to clear the outstanding balance so,,, they have had a look at the length of my repayment plan with them and taking into consideration my age [cheeky bleeders] they can see I will be paying this account back for over 15 years wrong no valid CCA no payments ever again,They have a solution for me that I may be interested in wrong again,They are proposing to accept a lower amount to clear the account, so if I could just find £1366.64, they will accept it as payment to clear the account in full.will just go and check the piggy bank,shake shake, no 2 buttons, 1956 penny, and some fluff This means that my monthly payments can then cease they have already, they would like payment in the next few weeks, A HA they don't have enough for the xmas do,whilst they realise that they are reducing my balance substantially, they do feel it is in MY best interest due to the length of time it will take to repay the full amount, they hope I can see their proposal as a solution to clearing this account and if I would like to take advantage of their offer I am to contact them by phone in the next 14 days.you've bought a lemon, na na nan na na

ME childish!!! never

[MrsD]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

I would wait and see NW, it does say "may resume"

[nightwatch]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

Tesco cc
start date 1999
balance£4730.11
defaulted 2003
prorata payments up to date OC/Morecroft/fredricksons

12/04 CCA sent
03/05 letter received, dated 21/04, unable to deal with request as it is not signed. returned with 'no sig required' temp
19/05 letter from D Munn,(7/5) 'HE' is disapointed to note that I have failed to comply with 'OUR' agreement,unles 'HE' receives an immediate payment as arranged 'HE' will have no alternative but to place my account in the hands of an external DCA
7/6, letter from tesco, Legal and Estates,"futher to my recent request, we enclose copy information held by Tesco Bank provided under the terms of the above act"
they have sent me the information as quoted under DPA 1998 ??
will email what I got to Niddy
missing PT letter will be sent 2mozz
after sending missing PT letter have just received the same stuff back but with some T&C but i cannot see any date on them so dont know if they are original or varied will send to Niddy for his opinion

His Niddyship says to ignore, wait and see what happen next
2013
31/01 letter from tesco dated 28/01, We are considering legal action to recover your debt, despite writing to you several times, you have still not paid off your credit card balance or made a repayment arrangement with us,we are now considering commencing court proceedings against you to recover this debt.
it then goes on to explain what this could mean and what may happen if i don't pay the CCJ 1, paid from employer. 2, charging order.
they would prefer to come to an arrangement to settle the debt and i am to call them immediately to disscuss a repayment plan.
20/02 was going to send thret o gram template for last letter but forgot to post it (just found it in the car)
20/02, 2 letters received today both dated 15/02 from Tesco Collections, letter 1, wants me to contact them urgently to discuss my account.
letter 2,Tesco Recoveries, because of an absence of an acceptable repayment arrangement, and because i haven't contacted them, despite several attempts to discuss the matter, they will shortly commence further action against me with the assistance of DCA or Solicitors. To stop all action I am to make a payment NOW. If no payment or agreed repayment plan is received within 7 days, they will commence further action against you
22/02 letter sent cross between you hav not sent me my CCA /unenforcable/threat-o gram it was received by them on the 23/02
11/03 [05/03] letter from Tesco recoveries,Important you must take action-call us today,dispite previous correspondance and our repeated attempts to try and reach an arrangement with you, the debt still remains outstanding.
we will shortly have no alternative but to seek the assistance of a debt collection agency or, if appropriate, commence legal proceedings against you for the recovery of the debt.
I am to make an acceptable offer of repayment within the next 7 days
25/03 letter from Moroncroft (23/03) my account details have been passed to them from Tesco Bank,they are acting as collection agent for them, they will be in contact with me within the next 7 days by letter and/or phone to discuss my repayment options in detail, well tesco can't have a valid CCA, if they can't read and answer my last letter i'll just have to start the ride again
April
05/04 SWID letter sent to morons also pointed out all communication in writing only and that I do not give permission to anyone to visit my doorstep so dont try that one.
06/04 letter from moronics of possible further action if no contact is made by 12/04. I could contact them now and they would be happy to discuss a repayment program, they may also be able to offer a substantial discount off the outstanding balance.
19/04 letter from moronics thanking me for my recent letter and advising that they will be communicating with their client in respect of my raised query. follow up action will be suspended on my account and they will endeavor to provide me with an appropriate response as soon as possible No rush love, no rush.
04/05 letter from Morecomics [01/05] Tesco have told them that they completed an agreement request S78 on the 5th June 2012 and also on the 25th June 2012.
they also advise that the account is on a temporary hold to allow me time to receive this letter and contact them to discuss a payment arrangement I can afford and maintain, if contact is not made promptly, their follow up of the account will recommence. just to make clear. Tesco sent me a photo copy of the signed agreement and T&C dated 2012 but no original T&C and the covering letter said it was sent under the Data Protection Act 1998 , and when I sent the Missing PT letter they sent me the same 2 pages so how have they complied with my CCA request
UE CCA received letter sent to morcomics
17/05 letter from moronics(14/05) their clients believe that the documents sent do meet the requirements under s78 of the Consumer Credit Act.They go on to explain what may be omitted from the document and that there is no requirement to provide a signed 'Executed' copy of the agreement.
their client believe that the balance remains due and payable and they therefore require immediate payment of the said sum or my realistic proposals for repayment of the same within the next 14 days
21/05 letter from morecomics(20/5) to prevent further action I am to send my payment proposal before 27/05 or telephone them within the next 7 days sorry their last letter dated 14th states 14 days 14+14= 28, so they can wait
If i do not contact them following receipt of this letter they MAY have no alternative other than to recommend to their clients that they consider further debt recovery action against me deary me I'm quivering in my armchair. no PT, no compliant CCA. sorted
6/6 letter from Morecomics (3/6) as they have not received any communication from me with regards to my outstanding account, they feel that I may not be in a position to meet their request to clear the account in full.gosh they get have feelings
to prevent their recommendation to their client that further debt recovery action be considered they are prepared to accept payments of £120 a month,to take advantage of this offer I must,
contact them by phone err no
make payment by website erm No
send payment attached to letter and no again
if I do not reply I MAY leave them with no other option but to recommend to their client that they CONSIDER further debt recovery action against me
18/6 letter from Midas cs,(17/06) they are aware that i have not agreed a repayment for this debt with moronics. they are now reviewing the account prior to the possible recommending of further debt recovery action to their clients.Now are thay talking about Tesco or morcomics being their client
they would remind me that unless we can agree a settlement of this account, the default which their client may have registered against my credit file will remain unchanged. are they using a default as a threat , cos the Tesco wouldn't remove it anyway To prevent possible further action I must contact Morecrap now.
04/07 letter from Morcronic (01.07) their records show I have not made any payments to them must have a newby in accounts so my account has been passed to the next desk along Home collections Division, for action.So are they collecting home's now along with door steps? This may involve their local rep calling at my home in the near future,to establish how I intend to settle the balance outstanding.easy! you give me a valid CCA, I consider where we go from there
If I would prefer to agree a repayment arrangement or I believe there is an outstanding query on the account I must telephone no later than 08/07 i'm busy washing my hair
they would emphasis that if no satisfactory agreement is made they may have no alternative but to recommend to our client that they consider further debt recovery action they have been putting this last line in since may


27/07 letter from morecrap We are agents of Tesco Bank, Their records show that the above account has an outstanding balance, They have therefore asked us to contact the account holder to discuss the account and we have been provided this address by a credit reference agency that supply us with addresses links based on the information they hold.Please contact us to confirm the position and so that we can make the appropriate arrangements.
However if you believe that you are not the person responsible for the account, it is important you contact us immediately, either by telephone or letter. they told me that they were agents back in March, they have also told me how outstanding my balance is, but never sent me an award for it,and why have they found my address through a CRA when they have been writing to me and I have been replying? errr what position do I need to confirm ? If i write and tell them I'm deceased will they make funeral arrangements?

05/08 letter to morecrap pointing them back to my letter sent in may also asking what position I am to confirm,and why do they need to look me up when they have been sending letters containing confidential details since march, so it is a little late to find out if the correct person lives at this address .

12/08 letter from Morecrap (10/08) in capitals, Important information-possible further action. I am to contact them in the next 7 days, or send my payment proposal before 17th Aug, to prevent possible further debt recovery action, If i don't they may have no alternative than to recommend to their client that they consider possible further debt recovery action against me, they may be able to offer a substantial discount from the outstanding balance, Oh dear me, the newbie has done it again and sent me letters from the past.
17/08letter form Morecarp, account on hold while they contact their client

25/09 letter from Tesco, due to my failure to agree or maintain repayments towards this account, we have decided to pass the management of the account to one of our DCAs, fredrickson International Ltd, they will attempt to contact you within the next 10 days, to discuss your individual circumstances. their aim is to establish an affordable and sustainable repayment arrangement with you. Should I wish to contact them, the contact details are below
30/09 letter from Freds Hi nw you've not paid tesco, so we are sending you this threatening 1st letter so you will give us all your money OR ELSE Reply piss off
14/10 SWID letter sent to freds
24/10 letter from freds(17/10) they note the contents of my recent letter pity they didn't read it if Irequire documentation under the CCA1974 I may request this directly from their client with the fee of £1,00, I sent SWID,
I am to contact them with my payment proposals

12/11 letter from fred, In answer to my recent letter(read what I sent)Their client confirms that they complied with my s78 CCA request in June 2012 and sent me documents on the 5th and 25th of that month.
their client also advises that their legal department do not keep copies of what was sent.that's a bit daft, so how do they know what was sent complied with my request?? Should I require further copies I need to make my request again DIRECT to their client and enclose the £1.00 fee as they have complied with this request twice already.
Fred says they would be grateful if I would contact them with my payment proposal by 25th November if they do not hear from me collection activity MAY resume.

ok so...... UE CCA received. or..... a letter saying nothing has been received from Tesco under s78 CCA 1974, which is true they sent it under DPA 1998, and if the legal team don't keep a copy of what was sent, then how can they say they did or didn't comply? or.... should I ignore and see what happens next . any takers

[MrsD]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

I would send a threat of legal to the muppets

[nightwatch]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

Nationwide cc
still with OC
start date 1998
ballance £8,500
Defaulted 2007
prorata payments up to date
His Nidship has deemed this thanks Niddy

27/1/12. letter rec offering part settlement if i pay 25% in 14 days, will not have to pay the rest but will only report part settleed to CRA.don't think so!!
08/2013 Don't all shout at me but realised I never sent for the CCA on this last year, nor did hubby stop the payments from his account. have done now
CCA received and sent to His Niddyship but am thinking a missing T&C is in order

02/09 missing prescribed terms letter sent

09/09 letter from NCCS (05/09) in reply to my Missing PT+C, they say they have provided me with all the information relating to this account in there letter of the 20/08, and they are unable to supply me with any further information.
I have provided them with no legal basis for disputing the amount owed in respect of the account and they are not willing to engage any longer in protracted correspondence with me. If i fail to make payments to the account Nationwide will enforce the debt in accordance with the Terms and conditions of the account ( will this be the original T+C that they have not sent) I am to note that if I do not make the required payments and it becomes necessary for them to commence Court proceedings to recover the debt, they will seek costs of doing this from me. They recommend i seek advice from a firm of solicitors or CAB

04/11 Letter from K.P.R. threatening hell and high water if I don't pay Formal Demand for Payment in big bold capital letters will hide until nasty person stops shouting NW collections has passed my account to them,it is important that the debt is repaid so please call 0845xxxxxx within 7 days cutting it fine letter is dated 29/10 NW is now considering taking legal proceedings to obtain a court judgement or decree against you.
they go on to say costs would be added and that NW or one of its agents would look to enforce by one of the following options
Charging order jointly owned so only a restriction
warrant of execution will supply my own gallows
Attachment of earnings I can be unemployed at any time
Alternatively, your account may be referred to a specialist external DCA now your talking

so as they said in reply to my missing PT letter that they had nothing left to send me.
Do I reply with SWID or threat of legal action ? thanks

[nightwatch]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

M&S charge cardstarted 1997
balance £1645.23
default 2007
prorata upto date OC not paid since april 2012

12/04 CCA req sent
05/05 letter received, dated 01/05, my repayment plan has now expired they would like me to call them to give them my details and discuss how i expect to clear the debt.
If they dont hear from me they will consider refurring the account to their solicitors. or they may refer it to a DCA
29/05 no CCA received letter sent

18/06 CCA rec will send to Niddy
23/06 letter received from Moorcroft dated 21/06 ' they have been instucted by M N S to to collect my overdue debt' I must make full payment within 7 days' OR' call them IMMEDIATLEY to prevent them recommending further debt recovery action to their client. they and their client do not wish to do this, but if no agreement cannot be reached by 28/06/12 they may have no alternative
they point out that their client has registered a default against my credit file in relation to this account
25/06 Letter fromM n S dated 20/06 they have asked Moorcroft to take responsibility for my account allpayments and queries to them
30/06 another letter from MnS they have asked Moorcroft to ect ect ect....
07/07 letter from Moroncust(05/07) they have been asked by their clients to Increase my outstaning debt by. this will increase my total debt to £1645.23, and I should contact them by 12/07 to discuss an affordable repayment arrangement that will clear this ammount in the shortest possable time.
If I am in receipt of certain benifits they may be able to asist me in establishing payment of this account through the benifits system
20/07 letter from Morecrap.19/07 they feel that I may not be in a position to repay the debt in full,so, to stop them recomending to their client that further debt recovery action should be taken, they are prepared to accept a sensible monthly repayment plan that I can afford to maintain, with this in mind the kind of figure they would be prepared to accept would be £100.00 per month
If I wish to take advantage of this opportunity I should ring them at once,
failure to respond within the next 7 days may leave them with no option but to recommend that further recovery action may be considered,
Do not ignore this letter
I didn't ignore their last letter, I did read it, but as I was not in the least interested in their offer I did not reply

09/08 letter from Midascreditservices dated 03/08 WARNING OF POSSIBLE FURTHER ACTION, they say they are part of Moorcroft and they are aware that I have failed to reach a repayment agreement with moorcroft, clever bloke this as such they have been asked to review what steps may be taken in relation to further debt recovery action. the options include recommending one of the following:

Continue in our attempts to contact you by letter and phone please continue I have a truecall
Instruct a local rep to arrange to call at your home address please do I love visitors, the last double glazing salesman to call would like some company in the basement
Referal of your account for consideration by our Litigation Selection Team err the bloke that signed the letter says he's a litigation Manager??
20/08 letter from Morecrap-home collections devision-my account has been passed to them.this means that a local rep may call at my house. the double glazing bloke is getting excited
they have also been authorised to offer:
a substantial discount of UP TO 25% subject to personal circumstances no, dont think it will tempt me,
Greater discounts may be available and can vary, dependant on current circumstances discount of 90% may work
option of paying the AGREED settlement figure over a period of up to 3 months subject to T&C MY T&C

7.30 tonight (24/09) door bell rings , hubby answers. then walks back and asks me if I am free to talk to a bloke from Moorcroft. NO. he tells him to leave but bloke tries to give him an envelope, Hubby tells him politely to shove it, I go to the door and tell him to leave now, he says he does'nt want to distress me, told him leave then, and he went. pussy cat

28/09 letter from Morectap (27/09) DISCOUNT OFFER they are dissapointed to note that dispite numerous attempts to contact me, no satisfactory agreement has been reached reguarding the debt outstanding,
But to prevent the possability of further debt recovery action their client has informed them that they MAY be able to offer me a substantial discount from my outstanding balance.
If I can agree to an arrangement for payment of a reduced settlement figure over the next 3 months, they will not persue the remaining balance of the debt they dont state the % of discount,and they say THEY will not persue the balance, not that no one will persue
I should contact them immediately err I'm washing my hair
they look forward to hearing from me don't hold your breath

29/10, Letter fromHome Collection Services LTD (27/10)I could be free of this debt if i telephone them and agree to one of the following options:
1/ agree an affordable repayment plan, they will be happy to discuss my financial circumstances with me and agree a monthly plan that I can afford and maintain, If we can reach an agreement they ensure me that no further debt recovery action will be taken while the plan is maintained,

2, Substantial Discount, I am to telephone them for a partial settlement figure. the benifits are;

a discount to help reduce the debt by a substantial amount do they do 100%

Once the payment has been received and cleared neither they or their client will contact me again concerning this debt, they don't say that no one else will contact me about the rest of it

I am not to ignore this letter I have not ignored i have read it and put it on here ( i may deal with it at a later date)

10/01/2013 letter from M&S account passed to Credit Security Ltd
17/01. letter from CSL, they have been instructed by M&S. please call them No
31/01, letter from CSL, we have not received a reply
16/03, letter from CSL(14/03) Despite attempts to contact you the debt is still outstanding. Depending on your circumstances our client may be prepared to accept a reduced sum in settlement. Phone us now.
04/11 letter from M&Saccount sold to Arrow Global on 8/10/13, Arrow have appointed Wescot as agents [wetsloths not doing to good with my accounts are they?] envelope also contained NOA from Arrow now as this is enforceable but have managed to blagg it for 19 months may just have to see how far I can go.

will wait to hear from wetsloths and send SWID

[nightwatch]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

Bos cc
start date 1998
owing £4802.57
defaulted 2008
prorata payments to Blair Oliver & Scott up to date
12th April CCA sent
27/04 letter received from Blair etc..dated 23/04, thanking me for my request for A NEW/ UPDATED TEMPORY REPAYMENT PROGRAM ??????
they confirm that my proposal to pay £1.00 a month is acceptable and i should pay them by the 22nd of each month, should I miss one instalment, legal procedings could be instigated without further notice.
£1.00 has been used toward payment of debt and not for CCA

26/07 nothing heard from BOS

5/11 letter from Blurr, Orrible and Snot dated 31/10/12, I AM NOT TO IGNORE THIS LETTER, they are urgently trying to contact me to discuss the repayment of my debt, but I do not appear to have responded to their requests for payment or provided acceptable repayment proposals. now let me see.. Yep thats it !! I am still awaiting my CCA that was requested in April, and I haven't heard off them since the stupid letter of the 24th/4
No CCA received letter sent16/11
21/11 letter Headed from, from Blurb oribble, snot,dated 18/11(Sunday ?) as we havent been able to agree a suitable repayment plan, we've transfered your BOS cc to Robson Way.I am to contact Robbin ways asap, and they give their contact details as Quays Reach Salford which is interesting as it is the return address on the back of the envelope the letter came in.
23/11 09.30am phone call from robway, they obviously cant understand english as my truecall only got ..speak to one of our advisers....
23/11 letter from Robway asking for us to contact them to arrange full payment or an arrangement, if we don't they MAY advise their client to start court action
26/11 phone call from RW different number showing on truecall but they still cant workit out
27/11 same as 26th
28/11 same as 26th & 27 th each time a different number
29/11 letter from BOS they thank me for my recent request for my CCA ?? they are currently awaiting the documentation to fufil my request and will endeavour to reply as soon as possible take as long as you like
will send sold in dispute to RW
5/12 CCA received from BOS have email it to Niddy
8/12 letter from Robsway NOTE...... IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED noted, just posted on here,I am to act now, and call them without delay and pay using my card I have a Christmas card?their staff are waiting for my call,hope they get to go home over christmas
will Ignore as sent Sold in dispute letter last week by snail mail
niddy says prob have sent missing pt to hbos
21/12 letter from robbing ways. NOTE...IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED.
you have not paid the sum you owe. until it is paid your account will not be closed, but may stay registered as an unpaid debt in your name. this may adversely affect your credit rating. WE URGE YOU TO SETTLE YOUR ACCOUNT-NOW- AND CLEAR THIS UP ONCE AND FOR ALL. if i call them today they can agree a reduced balance and i may even be able to pay the reduced balance by installments i can afford
2013
9/01 letter from RW(7/01) APPOINTMENT FOR HOME VISIT your debt is still unpaid despite previous letters and calls they have had a Sold in dispute letter in dec. and all calls come through our trucall, no messages left
before court action is considered we MAY arrange for a local rep to call at your address, to agree an affordable payment plan with you. YOUR ACCOUNT MAY BE SENT TO OUR LOCAL REP IN 10 DAYS TIME call us if you would prefer to agree an affordable payment plan with this office, or if you want to agree an appointment for our rep to visit. if they are sending it to their Rep why do I want to call to make an appointment ?
If you prefer not to talk to us you can deal with this online at our website. will send dorstep visit letter and refer to dispute letter sent in dec
still no reply to missing prescribed terms letter sent to Hbos
letter sent to robbing ways refering them to my letter sent in nov that they have ignored {copy enclosed} also refers to no reply from HBOS and dorstep visit letter
24/01 letter from Horwich Farrelly solicitors court action may be taken against me unless i take steps to resolve this matter quickly. i can avoid this action if i take the following action within the next 10 days. make a payment in full, or, pay what i can now and the remainder by an affordable payment arrangement.

06/02 letter from HF(04/02) they have noted my dispute/query, they will stop all collection activity for the time being while they make the necessary enquires

25/03 letter from BOS(21/3) it has a return address of CDR Manchester as we havent agreed to an acceptable repayment plan they have transferred ? my Hbos-Visa/Mastercard account to Crapquest, who they have asked to arrange collection of the outstanding balance so they don't know if its a visa or mastercard
Iam to contact crappyquest to arrange payment, cheeky sods want me to do their job for them
28/3. letter from crapjest [24/3] they write to inform me that my visa/mastercard account has been referred to them to manage in all matters relating to collection, which may include;
Personal visits by our doorstep collection agency
Possible Litigation
It is there aim to ensure that a suitable payment plan is agreed and maintained,their team of negotiators will assist me in finding a plan that will clear my indebtedness, without the need for further action.
If i am not in a position to settle the account i am to contact them to discuss the matter
Contact must be made by 02 April 13 by calling them on 0844.... or I am to write to them not left me any time to write if contact is not made by this date the account will be passed to HL Legal.
NO CONTACT WILL MEAN FURTHER ACTION
It ends with 'LETS WORK ON THIS TOGETHER'
April
05/04 SWID letter to crappyjest,along with stop the phone calls, and don't threaten to visit my doorstep.
11/4 letter from crappyjest (8/4) prior to the start of legal proceedings various checks and validations are undertaken to establish facts around your current circumstances. During this process it has been established that there are no outstanding CCJ's registered against you at your current address that's kind of them to let me know
they are highlighting this as a matter of urgency WHY? If we need to start the legal process and a judgement is awarded against you this may have a damaging affect on your ability to obtain credit no sh1t sherlock
they go on to explain what may happen if i apply for credit. they are not seeking payment in full; they can offer many repayment methods that can be designed around my current curcumstances that may include possible settlements that will save me money but if i'm not paying i'm already saving money all they ask is that i make contact on 0844 befor 21st april, no contact by this date will result in my account moving forward to litigation
LET's work on this together
as SWID letter has been sent will wait and see what comes next

25/04 letter from HL legal.[23/04] crappyjest have appointed us on behalf of hbos visa/mastercard so they don't know if its a visa or mastercard?
TAKE NOTICE THAT unless this account is paid in full or a satisfactory proposal for settlement is received by 07 may 13, court proceedings MAY be issued against you without further notice.
they go on to say that if they issue proceedings they will add court costs of £85. and solicitors costs of £80 and if judgement is obtained against me It will result in further costs and fees being added.
I am to contact crappyjest without delay to make payment, or if I wish to discuss the matter.
now as today has been a really crappy one I am in the mood to phone and tell them to GFY, but realize a paper trail must be kept. so I will send the threat-o-gram template and point out they have not replied to my letter of the 5th april.
3/5 letter sent to carpyjest
09/05. letter from CQ they are sorry I am dissatisfied with their service,and will be conducting a through investigation into the issues I have raised. and will contact me with the outcome of their investigation. they enclose a copy of their internal complaints procedure
11/05 letter from crapjest stating they have been in touch with BOS and have been informed by BOS that my complaint (missing PT letter) had been dealt with and responded to in their letter of 27/12/2012 they kindly enclosed a copy of the said letter this is a letter I never received
they say that I was informed that the documents provided to me by HBOS comply with all requirements under the CCA and that if i was unhappy i could refer my complaint to the FOS within 6 months of the date of the letter.
they go on to say that in my letter i stated that they had chosen not to deal with my dispute, but they have not received any other correspondence from me regarding this dispute only my letter of complaint so are unable to assist me further , however if I could send proof of my request for documentation they will be happy to investigate the matter further. due to that fact they are unable to find any issue with the way they have dealt with my account as they have no record of receiving my request for documentation under the CCA 1974. if I am not satisfied i can refer my complaint to the FOS blah blah blah
now back to the missing letter of december2012
letter dated 27/12/2012 from bos,they point out that I was sent a letter in Nov 2012 which contained the documents I requested and told me how they had complied with the CCA 1974
'In summary, to comply with section 78, the copy does not have to be a copy with the customers signature on it. We do not have to produce an actual copy of the document signed. the purpose of section 78 is to allow debtors access to the terms and conditions of their credit agreement and by providing the debtor with a true copy of the terms and conditions we have complied with section 78.In addition, although not required under s78 we also provided a copy of the original signed agreement. we will not be providing any other documentation, as we have fulfilled your request.

they continue to state that the documents sent comply with s78 and the copy agreement contains all the prescribed terms, names and addresses of all parties, a description of how the credit limit will be calculated and all the original T&C . It does not show the signitures of both parties as this element is specifically excluded from being required by regulation 3(2)(b) of the consumer credit(Cancellation Notices and copies of Documents) Regulations 1983.
If i am unhappy I can refer to FOS within 6 months they enclose their leaflet that explains about the FOS services and their contact details they didn't
OK what they sent me was :
a copy of the signed agreement no T&C on it
a copy of current terms with the signature box and your right to cancel. somewhere in the middle of the T&C. the interest rate is 13.9 and default sum is £12
and the covering letter states "Please find enclosed a copy of the original signed agreement which prove a valid signature The prescribed terms of the agreement would have been validly incorporated into the agreement on the reverse of the enclosed sheet or a separate attached sheet


22/06 letter from crapjest(19/06) they say that following previous correspondence and in order to bring this matter to a satisfactory conclusion their client, HBOS has requested them to contact me to advise that a settlement figure is now available for my visa/mastercard account. to take advantage i must contact them on 0333....... by 28th june
if an agreement is reached to settle with a reduced payment, once it has been received and cleared they will close my account and my credit file will be updated to show that the balance has been satisfied with a special flag of partial settlement. they can piss off if no contact is received by the above date they reserve the right to withdraw this offer.
well they must of withdrawn the offer
29/07 letter from BOS dated 25th As we haven't been able to agree a suitable repayment plan they have transferred account to Wescot Credit Services Ltd, they've instructed Wescot to arrange collection of the outstanding amount. They want ME to contact Wescot asap to arrange to pay back the outstanding balance,

08/08 letter from Wetcloths they have been asked to collect this debt

08/08 letter to wetcloths SWID

17/08 letter from wetcloths (15/08) account on hold while they contact their client.
22/08 letter from wetclots (20/08) they enclose a reply from Hbos and would like a payment from me. They have sent me a copy of the 27th, Dec letter, that Hbos say they sent (never received,to be honest I think they never sent it) which states partway through" in summary, to comply with section 78, the copy does not need to be a copy with the customers signature on it( but it was). we do not have to produce an actual copy of the document signed (but they did) The purpose of section78 is to allow debtors access to the terms and conditions of their credit agreement and by providing the debtor with a true copy of the terms and conditions of the agreement we have complied with section 78". but they haven't, there are no prescribed T&C on the copy they sent and the covering letter(s) state that the T&C would of been on the reverse or on a seperate sheet.
02/09 final Response UE CCA received letter sent to wetcloths
11/09 letter from Wetcloths, thanking me for my letter and acknowledging that I have raised a dispute on the account and that while they investigate the dispute the account is on hold,as it may take several weeks to contact their client and look into the dispute they thank me for my patience they can take as long as they like they will contact me when they have concluded their investigation, to advise me of the outcome and next steps

18/09 letter from wetcloths (13/9) They have contacted their client who has advised them that the account was opened on the 14th of Jan 1998 and they are not obliged to produce a copy of the application under the 1974 Consumer Credit Act, as the account is over 6 years old.they continue that they believe the dispute has now been resolved and want payment,
if I believe there is still a dispute I am to contact them with details within the next 14 days


14/10 missing PT sent to wetcloths

17/10 letter from wetcloths(14/10) as a final attempt to avoid further action, our client has agreed that we can offer you a discount to settle your account ,offer is for a limited period only I should contact wetcloths by 24/10 to agree a suitable settlement, telephone 0844xxxxxx
28/10 letter from Wetcloths, their client is still saying that because the account was opened in 1998 they are not obliged to produce a copy of the application if the account is older than 6years
04/11 letter from Wetsloths, the opportunity to take control of my outstanding balance, they would like to give me the opportunity to pay my outstanding balance by means of regular manageable instalments, which would give me the potential to improve my credit rating and increase my chance of obtaining future credit. Now why would I need to improve my chance of obtaining credit in the future, I only have one DF showing on my cfedit file and that falls off in Feb 2014, I have 2 accounts with K N Co with a joint credit limit of 19,000 so don't think I'm overly worried.
04/11 UE CCA received letter going of today

UE cca going off today, will wait and see what comes back next

[Enforcer]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

Like the poppy.

[nightwatch]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

I havent sent one yet mrs D as I only received the letter in the envelope from Crapbot today, never got it from Barcs, so will send one off after the weekend

[MrsD]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

Have you sent them one of these http://www.all-about-debt.co.uk/old/...firming-no-cca

if you have I would do a one liner referring them to it and if you haven't, I'd send it.

[nightwatch]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

Barclaycard (1)

start date 1998
Balance £5552.10
Defaulted 2002
No payments made since Aug 2011 when they returned my payment as unrecognised account, no reply to letter sent.
Sold to Cabot Nov 2011 ignored letters CCA going off on monday
02/02/12 letter from cabot, they are requesting cca from barcs, and have returned my £1.00
220/02 cabot are still waiting to hear from barcs
23/02 copy of statements requested by SAR received 2006/7 i never had these as barcs stoped sending me statements in 2005 one dated sept 2006 asked for a payment of £6,471.10 immediatly followed by a further £6,459.23 to reach them by Oct 2006
27/02 letter from cabot, barcs are experiencing a delay in obtaining information from their archive.
09/03 Cabot are unable to produce the requested information,
my account has been placed on hold untill they can.

2013
19/04 letter from cabot (12/04) Cabot has not been able to provide you with the requested informationwithin the relevant time period yep i think 12 months+ is out of time
we shal continue to request the information to assist you with your request please don't rush on my behalf, I can wait
We would like to inform you that your account will remain on hold until we can comply with your request told you, no rush..
IMPORTANT Please note, you are still obliged to repay the outstanding balance as confirmed in this letter and therefore we would recommend you contact us as soon as possible to set up a repayment arrangement or continue with you existing payment plan I will continue with my existing plan £0.00 a month for ever, seems good to me (filed)
31/10 letter from Crapbot please find enclosed information requested under CCA 1974 as the letter from them about my Sainsbury account in the above post they confirm it is a [recon] true copy of my account they go on to say they have complied with my request and they are able to Enforce the credit agreement that I signed and entered into. they can go for a CCJ, but they would prefer me to enter into a repayment plan
Now again they have not thought this letter throughas enclosed with the original TCthere is a page with my name and address typed on it and a large your right to cancel box in the middle of the page, ALSO a letter from Barclays dated 05/12/2012 which near the bottom of the page states quite clearly. We are currently unable to provide a copy of the terms of your credit agreement as varied in accordance with section 82 [1] of the act,We accept that we are therefore prevented from enforcing our agreement with you while this state of affairs continues.they continue with what they are allowed to do which is short of enforcement

so do I reply with a copy of this letter from barclays and ask why cabot think that they can get a CCJ when Barcs have already said they can't

[nightwatch]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

Sainsbury cc
started 1999
ballance £2277.74
defaulr 2008
now with Cabot
prorata payments to date

CCA sent
Account on hold
31/10 letter from cabot . Please find enclosed all of the relevant information you requested under s77-78 of the CCA1974 We can confirm that we have provided a reconstituted true copy of your credit agreement, which for the avoidance of doubt complies with the Consumer Credit cancellation Notices and copies of documents regulations 1983 and therefore complies with the obligations set out in section[77-78 of the CCA 1974
What Happens next; as we have now complied with your request for information We are able to enforce the credit agreement, which you signed and entered into.Enforcement means that we are able to obtain a County Court judgment against you. however we would prefer that you work with us to set up a repayment plan to settle your outstanding balance
Now me thinks they are being a bit hasty with the threat of CCJ as all they have sent is a copy of some un-dated terms with my name and address on them and a Your right to cancel in the middle between item 4.2 and 5 and a print out of payments made, no sight of the original application or the TC when taken out, so they are FIBBING when they say they can confirm its a recon TRUE copy of my credit agreement

so do I reply with, Liar, liar bums on fire, How is this a true copy when all you have sent are some random TC

[Deepie]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

Ok enough is enough, can anyone point me to a letter that tells them they are quoting sh1t. HBOS have already sent me a copy of the application with No prescribed T&C, and some current T&C, so they have the papers so should send them,I under stand if the account is so old no paperwork exists that they do not have to send it but should send a recon with the reason why. but these are saying, we don't have to follow guidelines and can do as we like!! I am of the opinion they have no T&Cs from inception, but am unsure of how to word the letter so as to not put my foot in it.

I'd send them this if it were me---> Final Response - UE (CCA Received)

[nightwatch]

Re: Nightwatch & Hubbys Diary of debt

Bos cc
start date 1998
owing £4802.57
defaulted 2008
prorata payments to Blair Oliver & Scott up to date
12th April CCA sent
27/04 letter received from Blair etc..dated 23/04, thanking me for my request for A NEW/ UPDATED TEMPORY REPAYMENT PROGRAM ??????
they confirm that my proposal to pay £1.00 a month is acceptable and i should pay them by the 22nd of each month, should I miss one instalment, legal procedings could be instigated without further notice.
£1.00 has been used toward payment of debt and not for CCA

26/07 nothing heard from BOS

5/11 letter from Blurr, Orrible and Snot dated 31/10/12, I AM NOT TO IGNORE THIS LETTER, they are urgently trying to contact me to discuss the repayment of my debt, but I do not appear to have responded to their requests for payment or provided acceptable repayment proposals. now let me see.. Yep thats it !! I am still awaiting my CCA that was requested in April, and I haven't heard off them since the stupid letter of the 24th/4
No CCA received letter sent16/11
21/11 letter Headed from, from Blurb oribble, snot,dated 18/11(Sunday ?) as we havent been able to agree a suitable repayment plan, we've transfered your BOS cc to Robson Way.I am to contact Robbin ways asap, and they give their contact details as Quays Reach Salford which is interesting as it is the return address on the back of the envelope the letter came in.
23/11 09.30am phone call from robway, they obviously cant understand english as my truecall only got ..speak to one of our advisers....
23/11 letter from Robway asking for us to contact them to arrange full payment or an arrangement, if we don't they MAY advise their client to start court action
26/11 phone call from RW different number showing on truecall but they still cant workit out
27/11 same as 26th
28/11 same as 26th & 27 th each time a different number
29/11 letter from BOS they thank me for my recent request for my CCA ?? they are currently awaiting the documentation to fufil my request and will endeavour to reply as soon as possible take as long as you like
will send sold in dispute to RW
5/12 CCA received from BOS have email it to Niddy
8/12 letter from Robsway NOTE...... IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED noted, just posted on here,I am to act now, and call them without delay and pay using my card I have a Christmas card?their staff are waiting for my call,hope they get to go home over christmas
will Ignore as sent Sold in dispute letter last week by snail mail
niddy says prob have sent missing pt to hbos
21/12 letter from robbing ways. NOTE...IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED.
you have not paid the sum you owe. until it is paid your account will not be closed, but may stay registered as an unpaid debt in your name. this may adversely affect your credit rating. WE URGE YOU TO SETTLE YOUR ACCOUNT-NOW- AND CLEAR THIS UP ONCE AND FOR ALL. if i call them today they can agree a reduced balance and i may even be able to pay the reduced balance by installments i can afford
2013
9/01 letter from RW(7/01) APPOINTMENT FOR HOME VISIT your debt is still unpaid despite previous letters and calls they have had a Sold in dispute letter in dec. and all calls come through our trucall, no messages left
before court action is considered we MAY arrange for a local rep to call at your address, to agree an affordable payment plan with you. YOUR ACCOUNT MAY BE SENT TO OUR LOCAL REP IN 10 DAYS TIME call us if you would prefer to agree an affordable payment plan with this office, or if you want to agree an appointment for our rep to visit. if they are sending it to their Rep why do I want to call to make an appointment ?
If you prefer not to talk to us you can deal with this online at our website. will send dorstep visit letter and refer to dispute letter sent in dec
still no reply to missing prescribed terms letter sent to Hbos
letter sent to robbing ways refering them to my letter sent in nov that they have ignored {copy enclosed} also refers to no reply from HBOS and dorstep visit letter
24/01 letter from Horwich Farrelly solicitors court action may be taken against me unless i take steps to resolve this matter quickly. i can avoid this action if i take the following action within the next 10 days. make a payment in full, or, pay what i can now and the remainder by an affordable payment arrangement.

06/02 letter from HF(04/02) they have noted my dispute/query, they will stop all collection activity for the time being while they make the necessary enquires

25/03 letter from BOS(21/3) it has a return address of CDR Manchester as we havent agreed to an acceptable repayment plan they have transferred ? my Hbos-Visa/Mastercard account to Crapquest, who they have asked to arrange collection of the outstanding balance so they don't know if its a visa or mastercard
Iam to contact crappyquest to arrange payment, cheeky sods want me to do their job for them
28/3. letter from crapjest [24/3] they write to inform me that my visa/mastercard account has been referred to them to manage in all matters relating to collection, which may include;
Personal visits by our doorstep collection agency
Possible Litigation
It is there aim to ensure that a suitable payment plan is agreed and maintained,their team of negotiators will assist me in finding a plan that will clear my indebtedness, without the need for further action.
If i am not in a position to settle the account i am to contact them to discuss the matter
Contact must be made by 02 April 13 by calling them on 0844.... or I am to write to them not left me any time to write if contact is not made by this date the account will be passed to HL Legal.
NO CONTACT WILL MEAN FURTHER ACTION
It ends with 'LETS WORK ON THIS TOGETHER'
April
05/04 SWID letter to crappyjest,along with stop the phone calls, and don't threaten to visit my doorstep.
11/4 letter from crappyjest (8/4) prior to the start of legal proceedings various checks and validations are undertaken to establish facts around your current circumstances. During this process it has been established that there are no outstanding CCJ's registered against you at your current address that's kind of them to let me know
they are highlighting this as a matter of urgency WHY? If we need to start the legal process and a judgement is awarded against you this may have a damaging affect on your ability to obtain credit no sh1t sherlock
they go on to explain what may happen if i apply for credit. they are not seeking payment in full; they can offer many repayment methods that can be designed around my current curcumstances that may include possible settlements that will save me money but if i'm not paying i'm already saving money all they ask is that i make contact on 0844 befor 21st april, no contact by this date will result in my account moving forward to litigation
LET's work on this together
as SWID letter has been sent will wait and see what comes next

25/04 letter from HL legal.[23/04] crappyjest have appointed us on behalf of hbos visa/mastercard so they don't know if its a visa or mastercard?
TAKE NOTICE THAT unless this account is paid in full or a satisfactory proposal for settlement is received by 07 may 13, court proceedings MAY be issued against you without further notice.
they go on to say that if they issue proceedings they will add court costs of £85. and solicitors costs of £80 and if judgement is obtained against me It will result in further costs and fees being added.
I am to contact crappyjest without delay to make payment, or if I wish to discuss the matter.
now as today has been a really crappy one I am in the mood to phone and tell them to GFY, but realize a paper trail must be kept. so I will send the threat-o-gram template and point out they have not replied to my letter of the 5th april.
3/5 letter sent to carpyjest
09/05. letter from CQ they are sorry I am dissatisfied with their service,and will be conducting a through investigation into the issues I have raised. and will contact me with the outcome of their investigation. they enclose a copy of their internal complaints procedure
11/05 letter from crapjest stating they have been in touch with BOS and have been informed by BOS that my complaint (missing PT letter) had been dealt with and responded to in their letter of 27/12/2012 they kindly enclosed a copy of the said letter this is a letter I never received
they say that I was informed that the documents provided to me by HBOS comply with all requirements under the CCA and that if i was unhappy i could refer my complaint to the FOS within 6 months of the date of the letter.
they go on to say that in my letter i stated that they had chosen not to deal with my dispute, but they have not received any other correspondence from me regarding this dispute only my letter of complaint so are unable to assist me further , however if I could send proof of my request for documentation they will be happy to investigate the matter further. due to that fact they are unable to find any issue with the way they have dealt with my account as they have no record of receiving my request for documentation under the CCA 1974. if I am not satisfied i can refer my complaint to the FOS blah blah blah
now back to the missing letter of december2012
letter dated 27/12/2012 from bos,they point out that I was sent a letter in Nov 2012 which contained the documents I requested and told me how they had complied with the CCA 1974
'In summary, to comply with section 78, the copy does not have to be a copy with the customers signature on it. We do not have to produce an actual copy of the document signed. the purpose of section 78 is to allow debtors access to the terms and conditions of their credit agreement and by providing the debtor with a true copy of the terms and conditions we have complied with section 78.In addition, although not required under s78 we also provided a copy of the original signed agreement. we will not be providing any other documentation, as we have fulfilled your request.

they continue to state that the documents sent comply with s78 and the copy agreement contains all the prescribed terms, names and addresses of all parties, a description of how the credit limit will be calculated and all the original T&C . It does not show the signitures of both parties as this element is specifically excluded from being required by regulation 3(2)(b) of the consumer credit(Cancellation Notices and copies of Documents) Regulations 1983.
If i am unhappy I can refer to FOS within 6 months they enclose their leaflet that explains about the FOS services and their contact details they didn't
OK what they sent me was :
a copy of the signed agreement no T&C on it
a copy of current terms with the signature box and your right to cancel. somewhere in the middle of the T&C. the interest rate is 13.9 and default sum is £12
and the covering letter states "Please find enclosed a copy of the original signed agreement which prove a valid signature The prescribed terms of the agreement would have been validly incorporated into the agreement on the reverse of the enclosed sheet or a separate attached sheet


22/06 letter from crapjest(19/06) they say that following previous correspondence and in order to bring this matter to a satisfactory conclusion their client, HBOS has requested them to contact me to advise that a settlement figure is now available for my visa/mastercard account. to take advantage i must contact them on 0333....... by 28th june
if an agreement is reached to settle with a reduced payment, once it has been received and cleared they will close my account and my credit file will be updated to show that the balance has been satisfied with a special flag of partial settlement. they can piss off if no contact is received by the above date they reserve the right to withdraw this offer.
well they must of withdrawn the offer
29/07 letter from BOS dated 25th As we haven't been able to agree a suitable repayment plan they have transferred account to Wescot Credit Services Ltd, they've instructed Wescot to arrange collection of the outstanding amount. They want ME to contact Wescot asap to arrange to pay back the outstanding balance,

08/08 letter from Wetcloths they have been asked to collect this debt

08/08 letter to wetcloths SWID

17/08 letter from wetcloths (15/08) account on hold while they contact their client.
22/08 letter from wetclots (20/08) they enclose a reply from Hbos and would like a payment from me. They have sent me a copy of the 27th, Dec letter, that Hbos say they sent (never received,to be honest I think they never sent it) which states partway through" in summary, to comply with section 78, the copy does not need to be a copy with the customers signature on it( but it was). we do not have to produce an actual copy of the document signed (but they did) The purpose of section78 is to allow debtors access to the terms and conditions of their credit agreement and by providing the debtor with a true copy of the terms and conditions of the agreement we have complied with section 78". but they haven't, there are no prescribed T&C on the copy they sent and the covering letter(s) state that the T&C would of been on the reverse or on a seperate sheet.
02/09 final Response UE CCA received letter sent to wetcloths
11/09 letter from Wetcloths, thanking me for my letter and acknowledging that I have raised a dispute on the account and that while they investigate the dispute the account is on hold,as it may take several weeks to contact their client and look into the dispute they thank me for my patience they can take as long as they like they will contact me when they have concluded their investigation, to advise me of the outcome and next steps

18/09 letter from wetcloths (13/9) They have contacted their client who has advised them that the account was opened on the 14th of Jan 1998 and they are not obliged to produce a copy of the application under the 1974 Consumer Credit Act, as the account is over 6 years old.they continue that they believe the dispute has now been resolved and want payment,
if I believe there is still a dispute I am to contact them with details within the next 14 days


14/10 missing PT sent to wetcloths

17/10 letter from wetcloths(14/10) as a final attempt to avoid further action, our client has agreed that we can offer you a discount to settle your account ,offer is for a limited period only I should contact wetcloths by 24/10 to agree a suitable settlement, telephone 0844xxxxxx
28/10 letter from Wetcloths, their client is still saying that because the account was opened in 1998 they are not obliged to produce a copy of the application if the account is older than 6years

Ok enough is enough, can anyone point me to a letter that tells them they are quoting sh1t. HBOS have already sent me a copy of the application with No prescribed T&C, and some current T&C, so they have the papers so should send them,I under stand if the account is so old no paperwork exists that they do not have to send it but should send a recon with the reason why. but these are saying, we don't have to follow guidelines and can do as we like!! I am of the opinion they have no T&Cs from inception, but am unsure of how to word the letter so as to not put my foot in it.