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  • #31
    Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

    Account three
    Barclaycard

    Type: Credit card

    Start: 1995

    Balance: £9400

    Last 'full' payment: January 2012

    Arrangement: No longer making minimum payments

    Status: In arrears

    Account owner: Mercers Debt Collections

    Key: Sent Received Updates


    2012
    April
    23.04 CCA request template downloaded, letter wrote and copy letter placed in a Barclaycard binder.
    24.04 CCA request sent to Barclaycard, by Royal Mail recorded delivery and with an unsigned postal order for £1.00.
    09.04 Letter received reference to Section 78 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. States that due to circumstances beyond their control they no longer hold a copy of the executed agreement. Regulation 9 of the CNC Regulations confirms that, in these circumstances, for accounts opened before 19 May 1985 (such as mine) the copy agreement they provide may comprise an easily legible statement of the current terms of the agreement, and this will be sent shortly...
    10.05 Letter recieved from Barclaycard with a couple of A4 print outs showing point 1 through to 28 of the terms and conditions of an agreement between us (Barclays) and me. This shows the 'easily legible current terms' they mentioned above on 09.04 regarding regulation 9 of the CNC regulations?

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    • #32
      Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

      Originally posted by CharlieH View Post
      Account three
      Barclaycard

      Type: Credit card

      Start: 1995

      Balance: £9400

      Last 'full' payment: January 2012

      Arrangement: No longer making minimum payments

      Status: In arrears

      Account owner: Mercers Debt Collections

      Key: Sent Received Updates


      2012
      April
      23.04 CCA request template downloaded, letter wrote and copy letter placed in a Barclaycard binder.
      24.04 CCA request sent to Barclaycard, by Royal Mail recorded delivery and with an unsigned postal order for £1.00.
      09.04 Letter received reference to Section 78 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. States that due to circumstances beyond their control they no longer hold a copy of the executed agreement. Regulation 9 of the CNC Regulations confirms that, in these circumstances, for accounts opened before 19 May 1985 (such as mine) the copy agreement they provide may comprise an easily legible statement of the current terms of the agreement, and this will be sent shortly...
      10.05 Letter recieved from Barclaycard with a couple of A4 print outs showing point 1 through to 28 of the terms and conditions of an agreement between us (Barclays) and me. This shows the 'easily legible current terms' they mentioned above on 09.04 regarding regulation 9 of the CNC regulations?
      Just ignore........
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      • #33
        Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

        Ignored

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        • #34
          Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

          Account two
          Barclaycard - originally Goldfish

          Type: Credit card

          Start: 1999

          Balance: £1200

          Last 'full' payment: April 2012

          Arrangement: Will no longer be making minimum payments

          Status: Will default in May

          Account owner: Lender

          Key: Sent Received Updates


          2012
          April
          23.04 CCA request template downloaded, letter wrote and copy letter placed in a Barclaycard Goldfish binder.
          24.04 CCA request sent to Barclaycard Goldfish, by Royal Mail recorded delivery and with an unsigned postal order for £1.00.
          12.05 Letter received from Barclaycard, dated 09.05.12, acknowledging receipt of my Section 78 request. They will respond as soon as possible.

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          • #35
            Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

            Hi and welcome Charlie you seem to be at the same stage as me in the UE journey just popped in to wish you the very best of luck x

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            • #36
              Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

              Thanks Sosad. I trust that since finding and using the site you are enjoying the 'UE' journey.

              It makes the going a lot easier when you can see the success others have had by reading their diaries.

              Even if UE does not always work, the stress associated with the harassment is a lot easier to cope with.

              Good luck with your UE journey!

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              • #37
                Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

                Account four
                MBNA

                Type: Credit card

                Start: 2002

                Balance: £4100

                Last 'full' payment: January 2012

                Arrangement: No longer making minimum payments

                Status: In arrears

                Account owner: Link Financial Outsourcing

                Key: Sent Received Updates


                2012
                April
                23.04 CCA request template downloaded, letter wrote and copy letter placed in a MBNA binder.
                24.04 CCA request sent to MBNA, by Royal Mail recorded delivery and with an unsigned postal order for £1.00.
                08.05 Letter received from Link Financial Outsourcing Limited stating that on 27.04.12 MBNA assigned them the debt, and again on 27.04.12 they assigned the benefit of the debt to IDR Finance UK Limited. Do I therefore send the 'Account sold whilst in dispute' letter to IDR Finance?
                09.05 Telephone call from IDR/Link. I have asked them to contact me by letter only. But they informed me that they are a 'telephone based company'. How unfortunate for them. I did tell them that they had been sold the debt whilst in dispute...
                14.05 Second letter received from Link/IDR repeating their letter of 08.05 stating that on 27.04.12 MBNA assigned them the debt. Contact us to pay etc...
                Last edited by CharlieH; 14 May 2012, 11:53.

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                • #38
                  Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

                  Account two
                  Barclaycard - originally Goldfish

                  Type: Credit card

                  Start: 1999

                  Balance: £1200

                  Last 'full' payment: April 2012

                  Arrangement: Will no longer be making minimum payments

                  Status: Will default in May

                  Account owner: Lender

                  Key: Sent Received Updates


                  2012
                  April
                  23.04 CCA request template downloaded, letter wrote and copy letter placed in a Barclaycard Goldfish binder.
                  24.04 CCA request sent to Barclaycard Goldfish, by Royal Mail recorded delivery and with an unsigned postal order for £1.00.
                  12.05 Letter received from Barclaycard, dated 09.05.12, acknowledging receipt of my Section 78 request. They will respond as soon as possible.
                  17.05 Two letters today regarding this. One from the left hand, and one from the right hand! The first is the standard print out of the current T&C's. The second is more interesting. This states they are 'currently unable to provide a copy of the CCA' and are 'therefore prevented from enforcing our agreement' and then 'with immediate effect, we have suspended your Barclaycard' this is a 'temporary measure which will be kept under review'. They 'can and will continue to take any action short of enforcement, which includes reporting to credit reference agencies without also telling them that the agreement is currently unenforceable.'
                  The case of McGuffick v The Royal Bank of Scotland [2009] EWHC 2386 is mentioned in terms of "enforcement" and also Carey v HSBC [2009] EWHC 3417QB regarding 'an unfair relationship cannot be said to have arisen between the fact that we have not currently complied with section 78 of the Act.'

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                  • #39
                    Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

                    Originally posted by CharlieH View Post
                    Account two
                    Barclaycard - originally Goldfish

                    Type: Credit card

                    Start: 1999

                    Balance: £1200

                    Last 'full' payment: April 2012

                    Arrangement: Will no longer be making minimum payments

                    Status: Will default in May

                    Account owner: Lender

                    Key: Sent Received Updates


                    2012
                    April
                    23.04 CCA request template downloaded, letter wrote and copy letter placed in a Barclaycard Goldfish binder.
                    24.04 CCA request sent to Barclaycard Goldfish, by Royal Mail recorded delivery and with an unsigned postal order for £1.00.
                    12.05 Letter received from Barclaycard, dated 09.05.12, acknowledging receipt of my Section 78 request. They will respond as soon as possible.
                    17.05 Two letters today regarding this. One from the left hand, and one from the right hand! The first is the standard print out of the current T&C's. The second is more interesting. This states they are 'currently unable to provide a copy of the CCA' and are 'therefore prevented from enforcing our agreement' and then 'with immediate effect, we have suspended your Barclaycard' this is a 'temporary measure which will be kept under review'. They 'can and will continue to take any action short of enforcement, which includes reporting to credit reference agencies without also telling them that the agreement is currently unenforceable.'
                    The case of McGuffick v The Royal Bank of Scotland [2009] EWHC 2386 is mentioned in terms of "enforcement" and also Carey v HSBC [2009] EWHC 3417QB regarding 'an unfair relationship cannot be said to have arisen between the fact that we have not currently complied with section 78 of the Act.'
                    Keep that letter safe......result welldone
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                    • #40
                      Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

                      Don't worry I will do! lol

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                      • #41
                        Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

                        So after being the 'Big I am' playground bully, once confronted they turn into childish !

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                        • #42
                          Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

                          Originally posted by CharlieH View Post
                          Account four
                          MBNA



                          08.05 Letter received from Link Financial Outsourcing Limited stating that on 27.04.12 MBNA assigned them the debt, and again on 27.04.12 they assigned the benefit of the debt to IDR Finance UK Limited. Do I therefore send the 'Account sold whilst in dispute' letter to IDR Finance?
                          09.05 Telephone call from IDR/Link. I have asked them to contact me by letter only. But they informed me that they are a 'telephone based company'. How unfortunate for them. I did tell them that they had been sold the debt whilst in dispute...
                          14.05 Second letter received from Link/IDR repeating their letter of 08.05 stating that on 27.04.12 MBNA assigned them the debt. Contact us to pay etc...
                          Load of rubbish! They send me letters though, I must admit, not all that many!

                          Send them the account in dispute letter.


                          Originally posted by CharlieH View Post
                          17.05 Two letters today regarding this. One from the left hand, and one from the right hand! The first is the standard print out of the current T&C's. The second is more interesting. This states they are 'currently unable to provide a copy of the CCA' and are 'therefore prevented from enforcing our agreement' and then 'with immediate effect, we have suspended your Barclaycard' this is a 'temporary measure which will be kept under review'. They 'can and will continue to take any action short of enforcement, which includes reporting to credit reference agencies without also telling them that the agreement is currently unenforceable.'
                          The case of McGuffick v The Royal Bank of Scotland [2009] EWHC 2386 is mentioned in terms of "enforcement" and also Carey v HSBC [2009] EWHC 3417QB regarding 'an unfair relationship cannot be said to have arisen between the fact that we have not currently complied with section 78 of the Act.'
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                          Are you quaking in your boots?

                          Great news CharlieH
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                          If you spot an abusive or libellous post then please report it by Clicking Here. If you need to contact me, for instance if I've issued you a warning, moved, edited or deleted your post, please send me a message by clicking my username.

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                          • #43
                            Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

                            Account four
                            MBNA

                            Type: Credit card

                            Start: 2002

                            Balance: £4100

                            Last 'full' payment: January 2012

                            Arrangement: No longer making minimum payments

                            Status: In arrears

                            Account owner: Link Financial Outsourcing

                            Key: Sent Received Updates


                            2012
                            April
                            23.04 CCA request template downloaded, letter wrote and copy letter placed in a MBNA binder.
                            24.04 CCA request sent to MBNA, by Royal Mail recorded delivery and with an unsigned postal order for £1.00.
                            08.05 Letter received from Link Financial Outsourcing Limited stating that on 27.04.12 MBNA assigned them the debt, and again on 27.04.12 they assigned the benefit of the debt to IDR Finance UK Limited. Do I therefore send the 'Account sold whilst in dispute' letter to IDR Finance?
                            09.05 Telephone call from IDR/Link. I have asked them to contact me by letter only. But they informed me that they are a 'telephone based company'. How unfortunate for them. I did tell them that they had been sold the debt whilst in dispute...
                            14.05 Second letter received from Link/IDR repeating their letter of 08.05 stating that on 27.04.12 MBNA assigned them the debt. Contact us to pay etc...
                            17.05 'Account in dispute' letter sent.

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                            • #44
                              Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

                              Account one
                              Capital One

                              Type: Credit card

                              Start: 2002

                              Balance: £2700

                              Last 'full' payment: April 2012

                              Arrangement: £20.00 per month from July 2011

                              Status: Will default in May

                              Account owner: CapQuest Debt Recovery

                              Key: Sent Received Updates


                              2012
                              April
                              23.04 CCA request template downloaded, letter wrote and copy letter placed in a Capital One binder.
                              24.04 CCA request sent to Capital One, by Royal Mail recorded delivery and with an unsigned postal order for £1.00.
                              02.05 Letter received stating 'the signature on your letter does not match what we have on our records' (no s*** Sherlock, as it was a typeface!!) and they require a 'copy of a document showing my current signature, drivers licence or passport.' They have kept the £1.00 postal order...
                              19.05 Second letter of refusal to supply CCA due to lack of signature, as I have signed the letter electronically. This time they state 'under the Data Protection Act 1998 we are unable to investigate your account unless we receive a true signature to ensure we are satisfied with your identity' and 'we feel requesting for a copy of your true, current signature is a reasonable request. In addition, the 12 working day time frame begins after the date of receipt of a satisfactory request.'

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                              • #45
                                Re: What's the worst thing that can happen! UE diary

                                Originally posted by CharlieH View Post
                                Account one
                                Capital One

                                Type: Credit card

                                Start: 2002

                                Balance: £2700

                                Last 'full' payment: April 2012

                                Arrangement: £20.00 per month from July 2011

                                Status: Will default in May

                                Account owner: CapQuest Debt Recovery

                                Key: Sent Received Updates


                                2012
                                April
                                23.04 CCA request template downloaded, letter wrote and copy letter placed in a Capital One binder.
                                24.04 CCA request sent to Capital One, by Royal Mail recorded delivery and with an unsigned postal order for £1.00.
                                02.05 Letter received stating 'the signature on your letter does not match what we have on our records' (no s*** Sherlock, as it was a typeface!!) and they require a 'copy of a document showing my current signature, drivers licence or passport.' They have kept the £1.00 postal order...
                                19.05 Second letter of refusal to supply CCA due to lack of signature, as I have signed the letter electronically. This time they state 'under the Data Protection Act 1998 we are unable to investigate your account unless we receive a true signature to ensure we are satisfied with your identity' and 'we feel requesting for a copy of your true, current signature is a reasonable request. In addition, the 12 working day time frame begins after the date of receipt of a satisfactory request.'

                                This looks as if they know they are on to a loser to me - good luck




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