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  • #46
    Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

    How weird

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    I'll do same for you
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    • #47
      Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

      Originally posted by Never-In-Doubt View Post
      Ah!!! Definitely odd!

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      • #48
        Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

        UPDATE 18/09/12
        Lloyds TSB Overdraft
        Account – Current Account opened before 2002
        Overdraft Limit – 4k
        Current – Default 20/10/2010
        Default Amount - £4.5k
        Status – No payments since March 2010
        Account Charges for missed DD's etc included in this default amount are + £3600



        May 2009 letter sent to Lloyds requesting repayment of all default charges levied to account since 2002, also request it is dealt with at once due to my financial hardship. Total amount £3694

        29 May 2009 Letter received from Lloyds “will respond within 4 weeks.........”

        June 2009 received letter from Lloyds stating copy sent to collections team…… test case underway…

        9th Sep 2009 sent to Lloyds explaining that “I have had no satisfactory response from May letter….I am under severe financial hardship…. I am no longer eligible for job seekers allowance…… am still being levied interest and further charges…..7 day response needed or will go to fos”

        15th Sep 2009 Received from lloyds“we are very sorry to hear of your concerns……let me assure you your complaint is getting the attention it deserves….”

        16th September 2009 received from lloyds “thank you for getting in touch with us again….we have updated our files to make a note of any further letters and additional points you have raised…..as explained in previous letter Lloyds tsb is currently involved in legal proceedings with oft…..

        21st Sep 2009 Complaint sent to oft claiming charges do not reflect true cost etc and that I am experiencing financial difficulties

        8th October Reply from oft. “we will now ask Lloyds for further info…etc”

        October 2009 received from Lloyds “we are aware you have made a claim in relation to your overdraft charges which is currently on hold……you still owe us this debt…we will not make any further payments from this account…until resolved we have decided to waive further interest and charges and have decided to stopactively taking steps to collect the amount you owe for the time being….should we consider your circumstances have changed, or once your claim has been dealt with , we intend to actively start collecting again any amount you owe..

        19th October 2009 from Lloyds “your complaint is about overdraft charges applied to your account and, as you are aware, most of these cases are on hold pending the outcome of the High Court test case. However as you say you are experiencing financial hardship we will now consider how the bank has handled this case… we have assigned your account to our dedicated hardship team…”

        11 Nov 2009 Letter from Lloyds “we wanted to let you know that we’ve made all the payments that you arranged to come out of your account this morning. Unfortunately because there was not enough money in your account to cover all of them, we have agreed to provide you with an unplanned overdraft..

        18 November 2009 from oft “your case has been referred to me … I am an adjudicator… I will look at both sides of the complaint etc

        Note : goes a bit patchy here as head went in sand due to Cahoot loan and personal life issues.

        From memory, fos did not agree that charges etc were wrong, Lloyds defaulted me on 20 Oct 2010

        15th April 2011 Received letter HL Legal notice of pending legal action, 7 days… court action may be taken
        ignored

        30th August 2011 Letter received from Credit Security ltd “once again you
        have ignored our letter”

        9th September 2011 letter received from Credit Security Ltd “unless we receive payment/proposal by 23rd Sep 2011 a claim will be prepared….”

        12th Sep 2011 Prove it letter sent

        15th Feb 2012 Received by Robinson Way “our client has authorized us to recover the full amount you owe (4.5k) if you cannot pay in full call us to discuss payment plan….. if you do not we will advise our client to start court action”

        20/02/12 sent a CCa request to RW as suggested by Niddy

        23/02/12 Received response from Robinson Way that they are requesting the information I have asked for and that they are sending me a further letter explaining their procedures from here, they have returned the postal order


        07/03/12 Letter from RW received in todays mail but is dated 23/02/12

        "following your request, we have today asked for a copy of the agreement/statement to verify that you are liable to pay the amount due. Your account has been placed on a temporary delay pending receipt of this documentation and we will contact you again in due course."

        17/03/2012 Received from RW dated 15/03/12

        "further to your request for a copy statement in respect to the above account we now enclose a document for your immediate attention. We need to hear from you with your proposals for settlement of your account which is overdue for payment, WITHIN 10 DAYS"

        They have sent photo copies of some of the accounts monthly statements from October 08 to June 10, these show O/D interest, Unplanned O/D Fees and Account Charges of around £800 over this period. Most of the statements show an increase in the Account Overdraft limit and a change in the renewal date to the 3rd or 4th of the next month.

        30/03/12

        Letter from RW "this is a notice about your unpaid account which is in our hands to collect...call us without delay to pay using a dbit or credit card...."

        IGNORED

        13/04/12

        Letter from RW "you have not paid the sum you owe.......ring us today - we can agree a reduced balance...."

        IGNORED

        25/04/12

        From RW

        "we will allow your account to paid by affordable instalments of just £30 a month.....

        IGNORED


        07/05/12

        "Final Notice - Do Not Ignore this letter... you have not responded to our previous letter.... in the next 10 days I may arrange for our Local Representative to call at your home......"


        Ignore or send visit letter?

        16/05/12 sent Our Templates | Harassment & Intimidation Templates | Harassment & Threat of Doorstep-Visit

        after help from In 2 Deep ( thanks )

        23/05/12 Received from RW "we refer to your recent request not to be contacted by phone......your number has been removed....you remain liable for payment of balance owing...futher action may still be taken.. if you have not provided us with repayment proposals, please contact us within next 14 days."
        IGNORE?

        24/05/12 Received from RW
        "ref your recent contact our client has informed us that this balance relates to your current account and as such is exempt from part V of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. No copy agreement is available on your account. We trust this resolves your query....proposals for payment within next 14 days"

        31/05/12 Sent Niddy Special Letter, reference link - Unenforceability/Overdrafts/Cca info/post 89




        08/06/12 From RW
        "thank you for recent contact..as previously advised, our client has rejected your dispute and you remain fully liable for the balance outstanding. In the absence of any alternative dispute, we are unable to defer payment on this account and we now require your proposals of payment within the next 14 days. After this time collection activity will resume.

        26/06/12 Sent part 2 response of Niddy Special ref : Unenforceability/Overdrafts/Cca info/post 89

        30/06/12 Letter received from Horwich Farrelly Solicitors "we have received instructions from RW to claim full payment of this account......you can contact us directly by phone......please do not ignore this letter our clients want to agree payment terms without having to take further action...."


        04/07/12 does this need responding to? thanx all

        04/07/12 In Today's mail
        From HF Solcs, drafted on the same day as the auto letter mentioned 30/06/12
        "we thank you for your recent correspondence.........this balance refers to your current account and such is exempt from part V of the Consumer Credit act 1974. No copy agreement is available on your record.
        In the absence of any alternative dispute, we are unable to defer payment on this acc....payment props within 14 days or collections resume.."

        26/07/12 letter from HF solcs "we note that despite previous correspondence you have no resolved this debt....we urge you to pay in full...or affordable payment plan....."

        26/07/12 Sent part 2 of OD letter again with copy of part 1 (cc Rob Way) to HF solcs
        and Sent part 2 of OD letter again with copy of part 1 (cc HF solcs) to Rob Way

        03/08/12 Received from HF solcs dated (presume incorrectly 1st July 2012!)
        We refer to recent correspondence received 30th July....
        Please be advised your CCA request is irrelevant under part V of the CCA 1974 as no agreement was signed when opening your bank acc.
        This has been previously advised, we will not continue with repetitive correspondence.
        You account has been delayed for 10 days while we await you proposals

        16/08/12 Sent Niddy/Elsa Special letter to HF Solcs

        30/08/12 Received letter claiming to be from LTSB but does not give correct account number for the current account in dispute and is on poor quality LTSB headed paper, and sent from Huddersfield so is actually I think from Westcot on Lloyds headed paper!

        "As we haven't been able to agree a suitable repayment plan we've transferred your Lloyds account to a debt collection agency. We have instructed Westcot Credit Services Ltd to arrange a collection of the outstanding amount........Please contact WCS as soon as possible....."

        Should I send "account sold in dispute" to the LTSB address on the letter, even though this has obviously not come from them?
        Or should I wait for something on WCS letter head?

        Any advice is appreciated thanks to all.

        03/09/12 Received From Wescot in red with the heading "important notice of debt collection" it reads "we have been instructed by our client to collect the above....to prevent further action you must..." etc
        Ignore or send in dispute?
        Cheers all

        06/09/12 Sent letter to Wescot stating acc in dispute with HF and Lloyds with a copy of the HF letter included

        11/09/12 Letter from Westcot investigating and collections suspended meanwhile

        13/09/12 letter from Westcot "having contacted our client they have advised as this is a current acc they are unable to provide a copy of the agreement"...... *please contact us"

        FYI The above letter was dated by WC 12/09/12 (received 13th)

        18/09/12 received letter from WC dated 14/09/12 "thank you for your recent contact....we acknowledge you have raised a query....we will suspend all activity whilst the matter is under investigation...
        Last edited by bosdog; 4 April 2015, 08:47.

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        • #49
          Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

          Originally posted by bosdog View Post
          18/09/12 received letter from WC dated 14/09/12 "thank you for your recent contact....we acknowledge you have raised a query....we will suspend all activity whilst the matter is under investigation...
          As a result of this, I will not bother doing a template - see what they come back with yea>

          I'm the forum administrator and I look after the theme & features, our volunteers & users and also look after any complaints or Data Protection queries that pass through the forum or main website. I am extremely busy so if you do contact me or need a reply to a forum post then use the email or PM features offered because I do miss things and get tied up for days at a time!

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          • #50
            Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

            UPDATE 15/10/12
            Lloyds TSB Overdraft
            Account – Current Account opened before 2002
            Overdraft Limit – 4k
            Current – Default 20/10/2010
            Default Amount - £4.5k
            Status – No payments since March 2010
            Account Charges for missed DD's etc included in this default amount are + £3600



            May 2009 letter sent to Lloyds requesting repayment of all default charges levied to account since 2002, also request it is dealt with at once due to my financial hardship. Total amount £3694

            29 May 2009 Letter received from Lloyds “will respond within 4 weeks.........”

            June 2009 received letter from Lloyds stating copy sent to collections team…… test case underway…

            9th Sep 2009 sent to Lloyds explaining that “I have had no satisfactory response from May letter….I am under severe financial hardship…. I am no longer eligible for job seekers allowance…… am still being levied interest and further charges…..7 day response needed or will go to fos”

            15th Sep 2009 Received from lloyds“we are very sorry to hear of your concerns……let me assure you your complaint is getting the attention it deserves….”

            16th September 2009 received from lloyds “thank you for getting in touch with us again….we have updated our files to make a note of any further letters and additional points you have raised…..as explained in previous letter Lloyds tsb is currently involved in legal proceedings with oft…..

            21st Sep 2009 Complaint sent to oft claiming charges do not reflect true cost etc and that I am experiencing financial difficulties

            8th October Reply from oft. “we will now ask Lloyds for further info…etc”

            October 2009 received from Lloyds “we are aware you have made a claim in relation to your overdraft charges which is currently on hold……you still owe us this debt…we will not make any further payments from this account…until resolved we have decided to waive further interest and charges and have decided to stopactively taking steps to collect the amount you owe for the time being….should we consider your circumstances have changed, or once your claim has been dealt with , we intend to actively start collecting again any amount you owe..

            19th October 2009 from Lloyds “your complaint is about overdraft charges applied to your account and, as you are aware, most of these cases are on hold pending the outcome of the High Court test case. However as you say you are experiencing financial hardship we will now consider how the bank has handled this case… we have assigned your account to our dedicated hardship team…”

            11 Nov 2009 Letter from Lloyds “we wanted to let you know that we’ve made all the payments that you arranged to come out of your account this morning. Unfortunately because there was not enough money in your account to cover all of them, we have agreed to provide you with an unplanned overdraft..

            18 November 2009 from oft “your case has been referred to me … I am an adjudicator… I will look at both sides of the complaint etc

            Note : goes a bit patchy here as head went in sand due to Cahoot loan and personal life issues.

            From memory, fos did not agree that charges etc were wrong, Lloyds defaulted me on 20 Oct 2010

            15th April 2011 Received letter HL Legal notice of pending legal action, 7 days… court action may be taken
            ignored

            30th August 2011 Letter received from Credit Security ltd “once again you
            have ignored our letter”

            9th September 2011 letter received from Credit Security Ltd “unless we receive payment/proposal by 23rd Sep 2011 a claim will be prepared….”

            12th Sep 2011 Prove it letter sent

            15th Feb 2012 Received by Robinson Way “our client has authorized us to recover the full amount you owe (4.5k) if you cannot pay in full call us to discuss payment plan….. if you do not we will advise our client to start court action”

            20/02/12 sent a CCa request to RW as suggested by Niddy

            23/02/12 Received response from Robinson Way that they are requesting the information I have asked for and that they are sending me a further letter explaining their procedures from here, they have returned the postal order


            07/03/12 Letter from RW received in todays mail but is dated 23/02/12

            "following your request, we have today asked for a copy of the agreement/statement to verify that you are liable to pay the amount due. Your account has been placed on a temporary delay pending receipt of this documentation and we will contact you again in due course."

            17/03/2012 Received from RW dated 15/03/12

            "further to your request for a copy statement in respect to the above account we now enclose a document for your immediate attention. We need to hear from you with your proposals for settlement of your account which is overdue for payment, WITHIN 10 DAYS"

            They have sent photo copies of some of the accounts monthly statements from October 08 to June 10, these show O/D interest, Unplanned O/D Fees and Account Charges of around £800 over this period. Most of the statements show an increase in the Account Overdraft limit and a change in the renewal date to the 3rd or 4th of the next month.

            30/03/12

            Letter from RW "this is a notice about your unpaid account which is in our hands to collect...call us without delay to pay using a dbit or credit card...."

            IGNORED

            13/04/12

            Letter from RW "you have not paid the sum you owe.......ring us today - we can agree a reduced balance...."

            IGNORED

            25/04/12

            From RW

            "we will allow your account to paid by affordable instalments of just £30 a month.....

            IGNORED


            07/05/12

            "Final Notice - Do Not Ignore this letter... you have not responded to our previous letter.... in the next 10 days I may arrange for our Local Representative to call at your home......"


            Ignore or send visit letter?

            16/05/12 sent Our Templates | Harassment & Intimidation Templates | Harassment & Threat of Doorstep-Visit

            after help from In 2 Deep ( thanks )

            23/05/12 Received from RW "we refer to your recent request not to be contacted by phone......your number has been removed....you remain liable for payment of balance owing...futher action may still be taken.. if you have not provided us with repayment proposals, please contact us within next 14 days."
            IGNORE?

            24/05/12 Received from RW
            "ref your recent contact our client has informed us that this balance relates to your current account and as such is exempt from part V of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. No copy agreement is available on your account. We trust this resolves your query....proposals for payment within next 14 days"

            31/05/12 Sent Niddy Special Letter, reference link - Unenforceability/Overdrafts/Cca info/post 89




            08/06/12 From RW
            "thank you for recent contact..as previously advised, our client has rejected your dispute and you remain fully liable for the balance outstanding. In the absence of any alternative dispute, we are unable to defer payment on this account and we now require your proposals of payment within the next 14 days. After this time collection activity will resume.

            26/06/12 Sent part 2 response of Niddy Special ref : Unenforceability/Overdrafts/Cca info/post 89

            30/06/12 Letter received from Horwich Farrelly Solicitors "we have received instructions from RW to claim full payment of this account......you can contact us directly by phone......please do not ignore this letter our clients want to agree payment terms without having to take further action...."


            04/07/12 does this need responding to? thanx all

            04/07/12 In Today's mail
            From HF Solcs, drafted on the same day as the auto letter mentioned 30/06/12
            "we thank you for your recent correspondence.........this balance refers to your current account and such is exempt from part V of the Consumer Credit act 1974. No copy agreement is available on your record.
            In the absence of any alternative dispute, we are unable to defer payment on this acc....payment props within 14 days or collections resume.."

            26/07/12 letter from HF solcs "we note that despite previous correspondence you have no resolved this debt....we urge you to pay in full...or affordable payment plan....."

            26/07/12 Sent part 2 of OD letter again with copy of part 1 (cc Rob Way) to HF solcs
            and Sent part 2 of OD letter again with copy of part 1 (cc HF solcs) to Rob Way

            03/08/12 Received from HF solcs dated (presume incorrectly 1st July 2012!)
            We refer to recent correspondence received 30th July....
            Please be advised your CCA request is irrelevant under part V of the CCA 1974 as no agreement was signed when opening your bank acc.
            This has been previously advised, we will not continue with repetitive correspondence.
            You account has been delayed for 10 days while we await you proposals

            16/08/12 Sent Niddy/Elsa Special letter to HF Solcs

            30/08/12 Received letter claiming to be from LTSB but does not give correct account number for the current account in dispute and is on poor quality LTSB headed paper, and sent from Huddersfield so is actually I think from Westcot on Lloyds headed paper!

            "As we haven't been able to agree a suitable repayment plan we've transferred your Lloyds account to a debt collection agency. We have instructed Westcot Credit Services Ltd to arrange a collection of the outstanding amount........Please contact WCS as soon as possible....."

            Should I send "account sold in dispute" to the LTSB address on the letter, even though this has obviously not come from them?
            Or should I wait for something on WCS letter head?

            Any advice is appreciated thanks to all.

            03/09/12 Received From Wescot in red with the heading "important notice of debt collection" it reads "we have been instructed by our client to collect the above....to prevent further action you must..." etc
            Ignore or send in dispute?
            Cheers all

            06/09/12 Sent letter to Wescot stating acc in dispute with HF and Lloyds with a copy of the HF letter included

            11/09/12 Letter from Westcot investigating and collections suspended meanwhile

            13/09/12 letter from Westcot "having contacted our client they have advised as this is a current acc they are unable to provide a copy of the agreement"...... *please contact us"

            FYI The above letter was dated by WC 12/09/12 (received 13th)

            18/09/12 received letter from WC dated 14/09/12 "thank you for your recent contact....we acknowledge you have raised a query....we will suspend all activity whilst the matter is under investigation.

            13/10/12 From westcot "we refer to your recent communication please find enclosed copy statement...payment is now required..call us"
            They have just sent copy bank statements from 2008 up until 2010 when the account was closed, no mention of my request for copy of the agreement.
            Also, these statements show charges for non payment of dds and standing orders and interest that I had not included in my original tally.
            Total bank charges on this account from 2002 - 2010 for non payment of direct debits and standing orders are in excess of 4.5k with a further total of over 1k for interest charges.
            As always, any advice is really appreciated
            Bos
            Last edited by bosdog; 4 April 2015, 08:47. Reason: date correction

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            • #51
              Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

              Hi

              If the actual charges are more than the debt then why don't you consider a reclaim thus cancelling all charges.... we could then look to seek write off against the charges refund.

              Or continue to ignore them till they get too stroppy.....

              I'm the forum administrator and I look after the theme & features, our volunteers & users and also look after any complaints or Data Protection queries that pass through the forum or main website. I am extremely busy so if you do contact me or need a reply to a forum post then use the email or PM features offered because I do miss things and get tied up for days at a time!

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              • #52
                Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

                Hi Niddy
                Thanks for the reply. could I still do this even though Fos rejected me when I went to them with the charges?

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                • #53
                  Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

                  Originally posted by bosdog View Post
                  Hi Niddy
                  Thanks for the reply. could I still do this even though Fos rejected me when I went to them with the charges?
                  ermmm, possibly not then. Bugger - why did they reject it i.e. for what reason and when did you apply?
                  I'm the forum administrator and I look after the theme & features, our volunteers & users and also look after any complaints or Data Protection queries that pass through the forum or main website. I am extremely busy so if you do contact me or need a reply to a forum post then use the email or PM features offered because I do miss things and get tied up for days at a time!

                  If you spot any spammers, AE's, abusive or libellous posts or anything else that just doesn't feel right then please report them to me as soon as you spot them at: webmaster@all-about-debt.co.uk

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                  • #54
                    Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

                    Have sent a copy of the Fos ruling to Niddy for evaluation and comments. Not sure wether I need to continue with the cca requests on this od as I have sent part 1 and 2 and all they have sent is a few bank statements, or if I just wait for their next move.
                    Cheers to all

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                    • #55
                      Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

                      Update 19/03/13
                      Lloyds TSB Overdraft
                      Account – Current Account opened before 2002
                      Overdraft Limit – 4k
                      Current – Default 20/10/2010
                      Default Amount - £4.5k
                      Status – No payments since March 2010
                      Account Charges for missed DD's etc included in this default amount are + £3600



                      May 2009 letter sent to Lloyds requesting repayment of all default charges levied to account since 2002, also request it is dealt with at once due to my financial hardship. Total amount £3694

                      29 May 2009 Letter received from Lloyds “will respond within 4 weeks.........”

                      June 2009 received letter from Lloyds stating copy sent to collections team…… test case underway…

                      9th Sep 2009 sent to Lloyds explaining that “I have had no satisfactory response from May letter….I am under severe financial hardship…. I am no longer eligible for job seekers allowance…… am still being levied interest and further charges…..7 day response needed or will go to fos”

                      15th Sep 2009 Received from lloyds“we are very sorry to hear of your concerns……let me assure you your complaint is getting the attention it deserves….”

                      16th September 2009 received from lloyds “thank you for getting in touch with us again….we have updated our files to make a note of any further letters and additional points you have raised…..as explained in previous letter Lloyds tsb is currently involved in legal proceedings with oft…..

                      21st Sep 2009 Complaint sent to oft claiming charges do not reflect true cost etc and that I am experiencing financial difficulties

                      8th October Reply from oft. “we will now ask Lloyds for further info…etc”

                      October 2009 received from Lloyds “we are aware you have made a claim in relation to your overdraft charges which is currently on hold……you still owe us this debt…we will not make any further payments from this account…until resolved we have decided to waive further interest and charges and have decided to stopactively taking steps to collect the amount you owe for the time being….should we consider your circumstances have changed, or once your claim has been dealt with , we intend to actively start collecting again any amount you owe..

                      19th October 2009 from Lloyds “your complaint is about overdraft charges applied to your account and, as you are aware, most of these cases are on hold pending the outcome of the High Court test case. However as you say you are experiencing financial hardship we will now consider how the bank has handled this case… we have assigned your account to our dedicated hardship team…”

                      11 Nov 2009 Letter from Lloyds “we wanted to let you know that we’ve made all the payments that you arranged to come out of your account this morning. Unfortunately because there was not enough money in your account to cover all of them, we have agreed to provide you with an unplanned overdraft..

                      18 November 2009 from oft “your case has been referred to me … I am an adjudicator… I will look at both sides of the complaint etc

                      Note : goes a bit patchy here as head went in sand due to Cahoot loan and personal life issues.

                      From memory, fos did not agree that charges etc were wrong, Lloyds defaulted me on 20 Oct 2010

                      15th April 2011 Received letter HL Legal notice of pending legal action, 7 days… court action may be taken
                      ignored

                      30th August 2011 Letter received from Credit Security ltd “once again you
                      have ignored our letter”

                      9th September 2011 letter received from Credit Security Ltd “unless we receive payment/proposal by 23rd Sep 2011 a claim will be prepared….”

                      12th Sep 2011 Prove it letter sent

                      15th Feb 2012 Received by Robinson Way “our client has authorized us to recover the full amount you owe (4.5k) if you cannot pay in full call us to discuss payment plan….. if you do not we will advise our client to start court action”

                      20/02/12 sent a CCa request to RW as suggested by Niddy

                      23/02/12 Received response from Robinson Way that they are requesting the information I have asked for and that they are sending me a further letter explaining their procedures from here, they have returned the postal order


                      07/03/12 Letter from RW received in todays mail but is dated 23/02/12

                      "following your request, we have today asked for a copy of the agreement/statement to verify that you are liable to pay the amount due. Your account has been placed on a temporary delay pending receipt of this documentation and we will contact you again in due course."

                      17/03/2012 Received from RW dated 15/03/12

                      "further to your request for a copy statement in respect to the above account we now enclose a document for your immediate attention. We need to hear from you with your proposals for settlement of your account which is overdue for payment, WITHIN 10 DAYS"

                      They have sent photo copies of some of the accounts monthly statements from October 08 to June 10, these show O/D interest, Unplanned O/D Fees and Account Charges of around £800 over this period. Most of the statements show an increase in the Account Overdraft limit and a change in the renewal date to the 3rd or 4th of the next month.

                      30/03/12

                      Letter from RW "this is a notice about your unpaid account which is in our hands to collect...call us without delay to pay using a dbit or credit card...."

                      IGNORED

                      13/04/12

                      Letter from RW "you have not paid the sum you owe.......ring us today - we can agree a reduced balance...."

                      IGNORED

                      25/04/12

                      From RW

                      "we will allow your account to paid by affordable instalments of just £30 a month.....

                      IGNORED


                      07/05/12

                      "Final Notice - Do Not Ignore this letter... you have not responded to our previous letter.... in the next 10 days I may arrange for our Local Representative to call at your home......"


                      Ignore or send visit letter?

                      16/05/12 sent Our Templates | Harassment & Intimidation Templates | Harassment & Threat of Doorstep-Visit

                      after help from In 2 Deep ( thanks )

                      23/05/12 Received from RW "we refer to your recent request not to be contacted by phone......your number has been removed....you remain liable for payment of balance owing...futher action may still be taken.. if you have not provided us with repayment proposals, please contact us within next 14 days."
                      IGNORE?

                      24/05/12 Received from RW
                      "ref your recent contact our client has informed us that this balance relates to your current account and as such is exempt from part V of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. No copy agreement is available on your account. We trust this resolves your query....proposals for payment within next 14 days"

                      31/05/12 Sent Niddy Special Letter, reference link - Unenforceability/Overdrafts/Cca info/post 89




                      08/06/12 From RW
                      "thank you for recent contact..as previously advised, our client has rejected your dispute and you remain fully liable for the balance outstanding. In the absence of any alternative dispute, we are unable to defer payment on this account and we now require your proposals of payment within the next 14 days. After this time collection activity will resume.

                      26/06/12 Sent part 2 response of Niddy Special ref : Unenforceability/Overdrafts/Cca info/post 89

                      30/06/12 Letter received from Horwich Farrelly Solicitors "we have received instructions from RW to claim full payment of this account......you can contact us directly by phone......please do not ignore this letter our clients want to agree payment terms without having to take further action...."


                      04/07/12 does this need responding to? thanx all

                      04/07/12 In Today's mail
                      From HF Solcs, drafted on the same day as the auto letter mentioned 30/06/12
                      "we thank you for your recent correspondence.........this balance refers to your current account and such is exempt from part V of the Consumer Credit act 1974. No copy agreement is available on your record.
                      In the absence of any alternative dispute, we are unable to defer payment on this acc....payment props within 14 days or collections resume.."

                      26/07/12 letter from HF solcs "we note that despite previous correspondence you have no resolved this debt....we urge you to pay in full...or affordable payment plan....."

                      26/07/12 Sent part 2 of OD letter again with copy of part 1 (cc Rob Way) to HF solcs
                      and Sent part 2 of OD letter again with copy of part 1 (cc HF solcs) to Rob Way

                      03/08/12 Received from HF solcs dated (presume incorrectly 1st July 2012!)
                      We refer to recent correspondence received 30th July....
                      Please be advised your CCA request is irrelevant under part V of the CCA 1974 as no agreement was signed when opening your bank acc.
                      This has been previously advised, we will not continue with repetitive correspondence.
                      You account has been delayed for 10 days while we await you proposals

                      16/08/12 Sent Niddy/Elsa Special letter to HF Solcs

                      30/08/12 Received letter claiming to be from LTSB but does not give correct account number for the current account in dispute and is on poor quality LTSB headed paper, and sent from Huddersfield so is actually I think from Westcot on Lloyds headed paper!

                      "As we haven't been able to agree a suitable repayment plan we've transferred your Lloyds account to a debt collection agency. We have instructed Westcot Credit Services Ltd to arrange a collection of the outstanding amount........Please contact WCS as soon as possible....."

                      Should I send "account sold in dispute" to the LTSB address on the letter, even though this has obviously not come from them?
                      Or should I wait for something on WCS letter head?

                      Any advice is appreciated thanks to all.

                      03/09/12 Received From Wescot in red with the heading "important notice of debt collection" it reads "we have been instructed by our client to collect the above....to prevent further action you must..." etc
                      Ignore or send in dispute?
                      Cheers all

                      06/09/12 Sent letter to Wescot stating acc in dispute with HF and Lloyds with a copy of the HF letter included

                      11/09/12 Letter from Westcot investigating and collections suspended meanwhile

                      13/09/12 letter from Westcot "having contacted our client they have advised as this is a current acc they are unable to provide a copy of the agreement"...... *please contact us"

                      FYI The above letter was dated by WC 12/09/12 (received 13th)

                      18/09/12 received letter from WC dated 14/09/12 "thank you for your recent contact....we acknowledge you have raised a query....we will suspend all activity whilst the matter is under investigation.

                      13/10/12 From westcot "we refer to your recent communication please find enclosed copy statement...payment is now required..call us"
                      They have just sent copy bank statements from 2008 up until 2010 when the account was closed, no mention of my request for copy of the agreement.
                      Also, these statements show charges for non payment of dds and standing orders and interest that I had not included in my original tally.
                      Total bank charges on this account from 2002 - 2010 for non payment of direct debits and standing orders are in excess of 4.5k with a further total of over 1k for interest charges.
                      As always, any advice is really appreciated
                      Bos

                      19/03/13 Received from Wescot "FINAL NOTICE" Our latest enquiries have now confirmed that you are still a resident at the address but we have not received a reply to our previous correspondence. Unless you contact us to agree repayment of £xxx.xx within the next 10 days, further collection activity will be taken to recover the full outstanding balance. Please do not ignore this letter......."

                      Any advice please? Thanks in advance
                      Last edited by bosdog; 4 April 2015, 08:47.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

                        I would wait to see what they send next.

                        I assume that you have sent both overdraft letters.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

                          Hi Vint

                          Thank you very much for your advice.

                          On 06/12/12 I had sent Westcot the "account in dispute" letter with a copy of the part 2 o/d letter that had been sent to HF Solcs and Rob Way in July (who had also been chasing this account.)

                          I have not sent the o/d letter part 1 or 2 directly to Westcot and did not respond to their letter received on the 13/10/12, should I have done?

                          Hope this makes sense?

                          All the best

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                          • #58
                            Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

                            Originally posted by bosdog View Post
                            Hi Vint

                            Thank you very much for your advice.

                            On 06/12/12 I had sent Westcot the "account in dispute" letter with a copy of the part 2 o/d letter that had been sent to HF Solcs and Rob Way in July (who had also been chasing this account.)

                            I have not sent the o/d letter part 1 or 2 directly to Westcot and did not respond to their letter received on the 13/10/12, should I have done?

                            Hope this makes sense?

                            All the best

                            Wescot had a Natwest overdraft and I sent them that letter and it did fend them off and I got a letter from them confirming that they sent it back to Natwest. I've a thread on a natwest/triton overdraft (merges into one about wescot).

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                            • #59
                              Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

                              Originally posted by bosdog View Post
                              Hi Vint

                              Thank you very much for your advice.

                              On 06/12/12 I had sent Westcot the "account in dispute" letter with a copy of the part 2 o/d letter that had been sent to HF Solcs and Rob Way in July (who had also been chasing this account.)

                              I have not sent the o/d letter part 1 or 2 directly to Westcot and did not respond to their letter received on the 13/10/12, should I have done?

                              Hope this makes sense?

                              All the best
                              I would just send a one liner referring them to the 2 OD letters sent. Enclose copies.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Bosdog and Lloyds TSB

                                Thank You Vint
                                Will send first thing in the morning
                                I would be in a dreadful place without you all and the support that you give to me
                                Salute to All of You X
                                bos

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