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  • Deepie
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    Originally posted by Drowning Not Waving View Post
    Woohoo! I'm taking copies and photos of the letter before filing it away

    So long as I know they don't have a leg to stand on, I can cope with a few (or a lot!) nasty letters. Bring it on
    You will not here anything from Barclaycard ....I haven't in over 2 years

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  • Never-In-Doubt
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    They now have no legs left - think of them as kinda fooked

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  • DNW
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    Woohoo! I'm taking copies and photos of the letter before filing it away

    So long as I know they don't have a leg to stand on, I can cope with a few (or a lot!) nasty letters. Bring it on

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  • Never-In-Doubt
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    Originally posted by swanfan View Post
    Anyone who contacts you re this account send a copy of barclaycards letter with this--> Unenforceability Templates - Section 2
    Awesome result - well done.

    Do as Swanny advises above.... if you get any hassle from anyone!

    This is now dead n buried - well done

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  • swanfan
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    That means they can ask you to pay but cannot enforce it. Result.

    Anyone who contacts you re this account send a copy of barclaycards letter with this--> Unenforceability Templates - Section 2

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  • Pixie
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    Keep that letter safe - very safe!! And make some copies too!

    It means that they can't take you to court to get the debt repaid but they can, and will, carry on hassling you.

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  • DNW
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    Re: DNW's UE Diary

    Originally posted by Drowning Not Waving View Post
    Barclaycard 3

    Code:
    Name                     - Barclaycard Goldfish
    Type of account          - Credit Card
    Date commenced           - May 98 
    Approx balance           - £14,738
    Date last paid           - Mar-11    
    Arrangement/not paying   - Not paying
    Status                   - In Arrears (DN Rec'd)
    Account owner            - DCA (Mercers)
    
    Key:
    Them
    Me
    Other


    Activity
    1. 15/04/11 Acknowledgement letter, refuse £1 payment no reduction in interest or charges
    2. 04/05/11 Request for payment
    3. 13/05/11 Reduced credit limit
    4. 08/06/11 Payment reminder & notice of passing to Mercers
    5. 27/06/11 Mercers - Default notice
    6. 06/07/11 Mercers - Unable to contact and will send doorstep collector
    7. 24/07/11 My letter - no doorstep visits, no phone calls
    8. 28/07/11 Mercers - local collecter will call
    9. 17/08/11 CCA request sent
    10. 26/08/11 Letters from Mercers and BCard accepting £1 month and freezing interest (bit late now as token payments have stopped awaiting CCA)
    11. 30/08/11 Acknowledge CCA request
    12. 15/10/11 Letter from Calder Financial (dated 03/10/11, rec'd 15/10/11) - 7 day notice before further action including sending local rep.
    13. 17/10/11 'Dont' Visit' me template sent to Calders Templates - Harassment
    14. **** UPDATE BELOW ****
    15. 25/10/11 Letter from Barclaycard stating that they are "unable to provide a copy of the credit agreement and they therefore accept that they are prevented from enforcing".

    Update as per #15 above... I think I can categorically say, in Barclaycard own words, this is now

    They refer to the case of McGuffick v RBoS [2009] in terms of what constitutes enforcement, and also Carey v HSBC [2009] as to unfair relationships.

    Despite the 'we can't enforce' part, the legal quotes don't mean a lot to me - I'm guessing they just mean they can send 'the heavies' if they want to?

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  • Never-In-Doubt
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    Originally posted by Drowning Not Waving View Post
    Thanks Niddy, it was CCA request so I'll send the muppets your letter as above.

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  • DNW
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    Thanks Niddy, it was CCA request so I'll send the muppets your letter as above.

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  • Never-In-Doubt
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    ^^^^^^ p.s. don't go to the ICO - No need as the creditor is in default so they can go and swing

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  • Never-In-Doubt
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    Originally posted by Drowning Not Waving View Post
    Received a letter today which did amuse me slightly...

    Should I respond to this?
    Is this for the CCA or a SAR?

    If the CCA then simply respond with the following custom letter - see how that works:
    Dear Sirs,

    Account No: XXXXXXXX

    Thank you for your letter dated XX/XX/XXXX, the contents of which have been noted.

    I see we're going round in circles here, regards your absolutely ridiculous request to requiring my signed authorisation before you will comply with my CCA Request. I have told you on numerous occasion now that I do not need to supply a signature to you, your constant refusal leaves me no alternative but to now formally report you to the ICO for your clear breaches and lack of knowledge in your role as a Data Processor.

    I have previously drawn your attention to the fact that the Consumer Credit Act 1974 does not require that I supply you a copy of my signature and I also explained that if it is for Data Protection purposes then I don't see why you suddenly require this when for the last few years you've been happily communicating with me at the same address. One must only presume that you want my signature in order to fudge an agreement, something more commonly known as fraud, thus my refusal to supply you with it stands based on my uncertainty of your bizarre and unlawful request.

    As you are aware, disclosing data without adequate checks of identity is contrary to the 7th principal of Data Protection, listed in schedule 1 of the Data protection Act 1998:
    7. Appropriate technical and organisational measures shall be taken against unauthorised or unlawful processing of personal data and against accidental loss or destruction of, or damage to, personal data.
    Similarly, as you're now in breach of my formal s.78 request any action you attempt to take to enforce this debt will be vehemently disputed based on your lack of diligence in responding to my formal CCA Request.

    I have nothing left to say to you, we will await the ICO's input, with my formal request remaining outstanding and your ability to enforce this rendered unsuitable based within s.127 (CCA 1974).

    Yours faithfully


    Sign digitally

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  • garlok
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    Hi Niddy, you're still here I was just away looking the CPUTR stuff. Maybe a bit early but for reference here it is for DNW to take a look.

    > New Templates - CPUTR - allaboutFORUMS

    Garlok
    Last edited by Never-In-Doubt; 22 October 2011, 12:17. Reason: changed link

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  • DNW
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    Re: DNW's UE Diary

    Originally posted by Drowning Not Waving View Post
    Hitachi Capital
    Code:
    Name                     - Hitachi Capital
    Type of account          - Loan
    Date commenced           - May 10
    Approx balance           - £825
    Date last paid           - Mar-11    
    Arrangement/not paying   - Not paying
    Status                   - In Arrears (DN Rec'd)
    Account owner            - Lender
    
    Key:
    Them
    Me
    Other

    Activity
    1. 13/04/11 DD cancelled letter
    2. 14/04/11 Refuse £1 and will default than pass to Recovery
    3. 09/06/11 Arrears Notice
    4. 12/07/11 Default notice and now passed to Recovery
    5. 12/07/11 Discount offer rec'd - 30% of £825.91 (£247) within 14 days
    6. 24/07/11 My letter - counter offer £150
    7. 27/07/11 Letter rec'd - £150 refused
    8. 17/08/11 CCA Request sent
    9. 27/08/11 Letter from Hitachi refusing request for as my letter was unsigned. My letter returned to me for signature.
    10. 14/09/11 Returned my original letter to them and sent CCA Request - Demand of Signature by Creditor
    11. 19/09/11 Letter rec'd from Hitachi still refusing my CCA request until I sign my letter
    12. 11/10/11 Letter sent - Unenforceability Templates - Section 3
    13. 22/10/11 Letter rec'd - They will still not send CCA without a signed request and will enter into no further correspondance until signature is received

    Received a letter today which did amuse me slightly...

    Regarding a letter dated 11/10/11, and apparently from you ( ), relating to an information request; The situation is clear and will not be changed by repeated submissions of essentially the same request.

    Blah blah... shall not undertake any future correspondence... until I receive a signed written request.
    Should I respond to this?

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  • garlok
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    Stick with it DNW, we are all on your side here and we do understand your position.

    Garlok

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  • DNW
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    Thanks Garlok, I did panic but I'm very aware that this is only the first in a long line of debts with agreements that are enforceable and sadly we don't have a bottomless pit of money with which to pay these off (else they would be long gone by now).

    I think a priority for me now has to be getting together an up to date and realistic CFS, ready for the next few hits we will inevitably receive.

    I've got an update to do on another of my enforceables as well now the postie has been... just off to gather the info.

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