Florida Jens diary

[Floridajen]

My own experience here is that a couple of months of phone Calls (ignored or better blocked) is useful before for sending the AAD Harassment Letter.

Numerous phone calls (make certain if you can that you have the date and hopefully time of these). If you have a BT phone then you can use (without extra cost their Call Protect service [black the numbers])

Now obviously you can't tell which Debt PRA are chasing by phone because presumably the Call doesn't get that far. So you can't really enter a diarise an entry against a specific debt can you.!!!
But you could send three harassment letters that one for each of the three Debts after a couple of months!

This then just leaves the individual letters. At the moment these do not seem to be threatening and can be filed away against each individual debt.

We have all been through this harassment process and it can work to your benefit!!

Your are doing well

Thank you for your advice much appreciated

[Roger]

My own experience here is that a couple of months of phone Calls (ignored or better blocked) is useful before for sending the AAD Harassment Letter.

Numerous phone calls (make certain if you can that you have the date and hopefully time of these). If you have a BT phone then you can use (without extra cost their Call Protect service [black the numbers])

Now obviously you can't tell which Debt PRA are chasing by phone because presumably the Call doesn't get that far. So you can't really enter a diarise an entry against a specific debt can you.!!!
But you could send three harassment letters that one for each of the three Debts after a couple of months!

This then just leaves the individual letters. At the moment these do not seem to be threatening and can be filed away against each individual debt.

We have all been through this harassment process and it can work to your benefit!!

Your are doing well

[Floridajen]

Good morning FJ,
you say you received 3 letters are they all for the same account? as you appear to have 4 accounts with PRA, it is starting to get a little confusing to which account (s) you are refering to,
QUOTE

the debts these letters correspond to niddy advised two were UE and was was enforceable.

Any advice what we should do please???
you havn't linked to which is which
could I make a suggestion,

I think it would mike life a little easier if you could link each seperate letter to each account. SO for example:-

If, letter one concerns debt 1,
go to your opening thread for debt one hit "edit", at the bottom of the post,
enter the date,roughly what the letter say's,
hit save,
then hit quote, and add a question or just say up date
hit post reply.

we then have the history of the debt , with out having to go back and forth through all your posts.

do the same for letter 2 and 3, or if for the same account just link them to that one account,

as you can imagine if you have 6 debts and don't add the letters sent and received to that part of your diary, it means that as your diary gets bigger we have to search throuch all of it to find out what has happened in the past, something that has been said to help you, could be missed, or we could miss one of the post and give the wrong advice,

sorry if I soundlike a school teacher, but it helps us help you quicker,

if you like please feel free to read my diary,
https://all-about-debt.co.uk/forum/d...-diary-of-debt.

just get a coffee and sandwich it is a long thread

hope this helps NW xx

I have tried to do this but not sure if I done it correctly thanks

[Floridajen]

Debt 5

• Type of account (credit card/loan) Barclaycard
• Date commenced (ideally before Apr 2007) ????
• Approx balance. £1900
• Date last paid (approximate date you last made a FULL payment) 2013
• Are you on arrangement or not paying. Was paying Stepchange till 2018
• Status (default/in arrears/up-to-date) Default
• Account owner (who is writing to you, a DCA or the lender. DCA. PRA Group

2013
statement received from Barclaycard
letter received thanking me for letting them know about stepchange

2014
Monthly statements received
letter from Barclaycard advising they have had payment offer from stepchange

2015
Monthly statements received
Default letter 87 (1)
letter from Barclaycard Formal Demand
as above
letter advising account transferring to PRA Group
letter advising account now closed
letter from PRA Group saying they have purchased account

2016
letter from PRA statement of account

2017
Letter from PRA account summary

2018
I sent CCA request with £1 PO
I received PO back with PO account of hold
letter from PRA enclosing some documents but stating unenforceable
letter enclosing copy documents as requested
emailed to Niddy - he thinks UE

Thanks for any help ---- 5 down 1 more debt to add - sorry if you are all bored x


Letter received 4th September along with numerous phone calls to which we have not answered....

Letter asks if we can settle account and giving three option
pay a discount price (couple hundred off)
three monthly instalments
six monthly instalments

please call us to arrange .......

what should we do please??
would ideally like the calls to stop

UPDATE

[Floridajen]

Debt 3

• Type of account (credit card/loan) Barclayloan Plus
• Date commenced (ideally before Apr 2007) 20th October 2011
• Approx balance. £3000
• Date last paid (approximate date you last made a FULL payment) 2013
• Are you on arrangement or not paying. Was paying Stepchange till 2018
• Status (default/in arrears/up-to-date) Default
• Account owner (who is writing to you, a DCA or the lender. DCA. PRA Group

2013
letter received from Barclays advising I had cancelled the DD
letter received advising missed a payment
Letter received Notice of Default section 87 (1)
letter received advising receipt of payment proposal


2014
letter received Arrears Notice
letter received Arrears Notice
statement received
letter received stating receipt of offer of payment
letter received Arrears Notice

2015
letter received Arrears Notice
letter from Barclays Arrears Notice
letter received from Barclays 12 month review
letter received advising they are in receipt of payment from Stepchange


2016
Arrears Notice received
Arrears Notice received
letter received from Barclays thanking us for providing details of Stepchange
letter received from Barclays advising offer of payment received
received from Barclays advising transfer to PRA Group
statement received from Barclays
letter received from Barclays saying transfer now complete
letter received from PRA Group saying they purchased debt
letter received from PRA Group section 86B
letter received from PRA Group statement of account

2017
letter received from PRA Group statement of account

2018
I sent a CCA request with £1 postal order
letter received back from PRA Group returning PO and account on hold
letter received from PRA enclosing copy documents as requested.
(sent all to Niddy who thinks enforceable)
????

Next steps please ? Thanks


Letter received 4th September along with numerous phone calls to which we have not answered....

Letter asks if we can settle account and giving three option
pay a discount price (couple hundred off)
three monthly instalments
six monthly instalments

please call us to arrange .......

what should we do please??
would ideally like the calls to stop

UPDATE

[Floridajen]

Ok here we go. 6 debts in total so I will try and do a post for each.

be gentle with me I am a newbie to this site

Debt 1

• Type of account (credit card/loan) Barclaycard
• Date commenced (ideally before Apr 2007) ???
• Approx balance. Approx 7000
• Date last paid (approximate date you last made a FULL payment) 2013
• Are you on arrangement or not paying. Was paying Stepchange till June 2018
• Status (default/in arrears/up-to-date) Default
• Account owner (who is writing to you, a DCA or the lender. DCA. PRA group

2013
statement received paid minimum payment
statement received nil paid
letter received stating they didn't receive payment

2014
statement received stating payment received via Stepchange
same every month for rest of year
letter sent advising situation not changed
letter received saying thank you for letter payments will stay same

2015
statement
statement
letter received section 87 (1)

2016
statement from PRA

2018
Stopped payments via Stepchange want to go Self managed
May CCA request made
postal order sent back with letter stating account on hold
letter from PRA stating unenforceable
letter received stating enclosed copy docs as requested. Received reconstituted copy, terms and conditions and a copy statement.


I emailed Niddy who advises unenforceable

APOLOGIES NOT IN COLOURs I am on an iPad and don't know how to do?

Letter received 4th September along with numerous phone calls to which we have not answered....

Letter asks if we can settle account and giving three option
pay a discount price (couple hundred off)
three monthly instalments
six monthly instalments

please call us to arrange .......

what should we do please??
would ideally like the calls to stop

UPDATE

[Still Waving]

Very sound advice Nightwatch. I do find the threads of some recent members hard to follow, as they don't follow the recommended method of providing a clear separate ongoing history for each account.

[nightwatch]

Good morning FJ,
you say you received 3 letters are they all for the same account? as you appear to have 4 accounts with PRA, it is starting to get a little confusing to which account (s) you are refering to,
QUOTE

the debts these letters correspond to niddy advised two were UE and was was enforceable.

Any advice what we should do please???
you havn't linked to which is which
could I make a suggestion,

I think it would mike life a little easier if you could link each seperate letter to each account. SO for example:-

If, letter one concerns debt 1,
go to your opening thread for debt one hit "edit", at the bottom of the post,
enter the date,roughly what the letter say's,
hit save,
then hit quote, and add a question or just say up date
hit post reply.

we then have the history of the debt , with out having to go back and forth through all your posts.

do the same for letter 2 and 3, or if for the same account just link them to that one account,

as you can imagine if you have 6 debts and don't add the letters sent and received to that part of your diary, it means that as your diary gets bigger we have to search throuch all of it to find out what has happened in the past, something that has been said to help you, could be missed, or we could miss one of the post and give the wrong advice,

sorry if I soundlike a school teacher, but it helps us help you quicker,

if you like please feel free to read my diary,
https://all-about-debt.co.uk/forum/d...-diary-of-debt.

just get a coffee and sandwich it is a long thread

hope this helps NW xx

[Joanna Connolly Solicitors]

we have had three letters from PRA saying.... could you settle your account. Then going on to say a figure of settlement about a couple of hundred off balance. I can pay in one go, three monthly payments or six monthly payments

the debts these letters correspond to niddy advised two were UE and was was enforceable.

Any advice what we should do please???

Generally speaking if a debt is deemed unenforceable then this forum suggests you ignore correspondence unless it's a Letter Before Claim.

However a lot depends on the history of the debt and the amount being chased etc. Is it possible to identify which debt received which letter, in particular the one you say the credit agreement is enforceable in case there are other potential legal issues which could make the debt unenforceable?

Di

[Joanna Connolly Solicitors]

we have had three letters from PRA saying.... could you settle your account. Then going on to say a figure of settlement about a couple of hundred off balance. I can pay in one go, three monthly payments or six monthly payments

the debts these letters correspond to niddy advised two were UE and was was enforceable.

Any advice what we should do please???

Generally speaking if a debt is deemed unenforceable then this forum suggests you ignore correspondence unless it's a Letter Before Claim.

However a lot depends on the history of the debt and the amount being chased etc. Is it possible to identify which debt received which letter, in particular the one you say the credit agreement is enforceable in case there are other potential legal issues which could make the debt unenforceable?

Di

[Floridajen]

Ok so today we have had three letters from PRA saying.... could you settle your account. Then going on to say a figure of settlement about a couple of hundred off balance. I can pay in one go, three monthly payments or six monthly payments

they are also ringing daily but we haven't answered to them.

the debts these letters correspond to niddy advised two were UE and was was enforceable.

Any advice what we should do please???

[The Tech Clerk]

Paperwork/agreements etc appear to have 'gone astray'.

Oh! what a shame if true fingerrs x!d

[sunnylolly]

And now the 'biggy' as you call it

If this loan wasn't opened online, then how was it opened?

I see it was opened in January 2013 and also defaulted in the same year so what is the backstory of this debt?

It's good news that PRA have admitted the debt it's currently unenforceable because they don't have the documentation they need to comply with your s77-79 CCA Request. It's basically time to hold your breath until they make the next move if/when they source or reconstitute the paperwork. I doubt they'll walk away without making an effort. We'll see.

Di

I just wanted to comment on this to say a 'little bird' from a reliable source has told me that following Barclays moving their collections department from I think Cardiff to Birmingham a lot of paperwork/agreements etc appear to have 'gone astray'.

[Joanna Connolly Solicitors]

Thank you so much x

You're welcome

You have my number if things get tricky.

Di

[Floridajen]

Thank you so much x