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Type of account (store card ) Argos
mine
Date commenced (2004)
Approx balance (£880)
Date last paid (22 June 2012)
Are you on arrangement or not paying (was on dmp now stopped paying)
Status (default/cca being sent )
Account owner (moorcroft)
9/7/12 cca request
13/7/12
letter recieved today, all collection activity on this account has been put on hold and they will not seek to enforce payment of this debt until such time as the documentation has been supplied or i am advised otherwise .
I decided to scan the letter from Moorcroft to see if you all think this is the normal reply from them .
received 8/11/2012
8 pages of a reconstituted
It's just about Argos card and tells me about statements and financial and related details
example : 8 we will set the credit limit for your account and tell you what it is when we send you your Argos card.
_______________________
shall i copy the first page and send it to Niddy to make sure ?

08/12/12
Had another cca sent which is still just terms and conditions i have sent it to Niddy see what he says.
It's still unenforceable , shall i wait and see what they do next as they have already had a missing pt's letter ?
28/12/12 Moorcroft Home Collections Division.
Our records show that despite our previous letters to you, payment has still not been made on the agreement in place on our system with the result that your account is now in arrears for the sum of £1.00
Our records also show that you are dealing with us via a third party (this would be payplan) If you are no longer dealing with them please contact our call centre.
As a result of the arrears on your account it has now been passed to our Home Collections division for possible action. If contact is not made with our offices as above, this may involve our local representative calling at your home address to discuss the account with you and to seek to establish how you propose to settle the balance outstanding.
We would emphasise that if no satisfactory agreement is made with us or our local representative you may leave us with no alternative but to recommend to our client that they take debt rcovery action agaisnt you .
16/01/13 from Argos
Thank you for your letter dated 14 November 2012
Unfortunatley , we are unable to locate the signed copy of your agreement.
We make no admissions regarding whether or not the agreement was actually signed by you and reserve the right to undertake a more thorough search should it become necessary for us to enforce the agreement in the Courts.
We do of course note that s61 (1) (a) consumer credit Act 1974 provides that an agreement is not properly executed , unless a document containing the prescribed terms is signed in the the prescribed manner by the debtor.
We accept that unless we are able to locate the signed agreement or otherwise prove that it was sigend by you, it is unenforceable against you.
However, the agreement remains valid and we do expect you to continue with your payment.
then they refer to the case of McGuffick and the royal bank of scotland 2009
they say that if i choose to breach the terms of the agreement by failing to make the payments, they may have no option but to continue with their debt collection activities, and register a default .
14/02/2013 from direct legal collections
We have previously written to you advising that we are the legal owners of your debt.
We have now withdrawn your account from the Debt Collection Agency who were acting on our behalf and you now need to deal with us directly.
Please contact us with your proposals to pay the outstanding balance.
Failure to respond to this letter will result in further action being taken to recover the outstanding balance.
15/03/2013 from MDB
I have been instructed by direct legal & collections an associated company of Mercantile Data Bureau Ltd, to contact you about the above unpaid debt. Your account has been transferred to me due to your continued failure to discharge your current liability. All future contact relating to your account should now be with me .
I would like to give you the opportunity to discuss your account with me before we undertake any action with your account. I will take into consideration your current financial circumstances and outline the many options available to hep resolve this matter.
I urge you to contact me today on 00000000000000 to conclude this matter as quickly possible
05/04/13 from MDB
SELLEMENT OFFER
I have identified your account as eligible for an ealry settlement figure.
If you pay £445.78 within 14 days, I will be able to write off the remaining £445.78.
Once payment has been recieved, I will arrange for the credit reference agencies tr credit file.
This is a limited offer available for 14 day.
06/04/13 from dlc
We refer to your complaint dated 19 March2013. Please find enclosed a copy of our complaints procedure for your information.
GOES TO SAY THEIR FINDINGS AND SUMMARY AND HOW MANY TIMES THEY TRIED TO CONTACT ME .
Ignore ?
4/5/13 dlc
Further to our previous correspondence regarding your complaint, the original lender has confirmed that the original executed agreement and statement are currently unavailable due to the age of the account, please find a copy of the transactions to date from our system since our acuisition.
Whilst we may not be able to enforce the agreement, the monies remain outstanding. The agreement or any monies paid has not been made illegal or void because of our failure to enforce the credit agreement but the underlying obligation to repay, remains intact.
The ruling in the case of McGuffick CV RBS clarifies the numerous interpretations of what is considered 'enforcement'. Should you want to view the Judgement in its entirety , it is easily accessible via the internet.
The demanding of payment is not considered enforcement and purely a step taken prior to the commencement of proceedings, therefore your account will remain with our collections department for collection activity to continue.
Goes on about reporting my account to the credit reference agencies.
24/05/213 dlc- i have scanned this as there is too much to type out .
31/5/2017 Argos
This letter is important and requires your careful attention.
I am writing to you about the Argos store card account you opened in 2003 .
We recently reviewed the way in which we added charges to our customers accounts. This is included looking at your an Argos Card account from the first time a fee was charged, up until 01/03/2007. We have identified that some of the fees on your account should not have been charged.
We are sorry that this happened. We are therefore refunding all fees that were applied incorrectly , plus interest.
As you may be aware , we sold your account to DLC. We have notified them of the amount we are crediting to your outstanding balance and the have adjusted this accordingly .
The total reducing the outstanding balance by £ 20.09
mine
Date commenced (2004)
Approx balance (£880)
Date last paid (22 June 2012)
Are you on arrangement or not paying (was on dmp now stopped paying)
Status (default/cca being sent )
Account owner (moorcroft)
9/7/12 cca request
13/7/12
letter recieved today, all collection activity on this account has been put on hold and they will not seek to enforce payment of this debt until such time as the documentation has been supplied or i am advised otherwise .
I decided to scan the letter from Moorcroft to see if you all think this is the normal reply from them .
received 8/11/2012
8 pages of a reconstituted
It's just about Argos card and tells me about statements and financial and related details
example : 8 we will set the credit limit for your account and tell you what it is when we send you your Argos card.
_______________________
shall i copy the first page and send it to Niddy to make sure ?

08/12/12
Had another cca sent which is still just terms and conditions i have sent it to Niddy see what he says.
It's still unenforceable , shall i wait and see what they do next as they have already had a missing pt's letter ?
28/12/12 Moorcroft Home Collections Division.
Our records show that despite our previous letters to you, payment has still not been made on the agreement in place on our system with the result that your account is now in arrears for the sum of £1.00

Our records also show that you are dealing with us via a third party (this would be payplan) If you are no longer dealing with them please contact our call centre.
As a result of the arrears on your account it has now been passed to our Home Collections division for possible action. If contact is not made with our offices as above, this may involve our local representative calling at your home address to discuss the account with you and to seek to establish how you propose to settle the balance outstanding.
We would emphasise that if no satisfactory agreement is made with us or our local representative you may leave us with no alternative but to recommend to our client that they take debt rcovery action agaisnt you .
16/01/13 from Argos
Thank you for your letter dated 14 November 2012
Unfortunatley , we are unable to locate the signed copy of your agreement.
We make no admissions regarding whether or not the agreement was actually signed by you and reserve the right to undertake a more thorough search should it become necessary for us to enforce the agreement in the Courts.
We do of course note that s61 (1) (a) consumer credit Act 1974 provides that an agreement is not properly executed , unless a document containing the prescribed terms is signed in the the prescribed manner by the debtor.
We accept that unless we are able to locate the signed agreement or otherwise prove that it was sigend by you, it is unenforceable against you.
However, the agreement remains valid and we do expect you to continue with your payment.
then they refer to the case of McGuffick and the royal bank of scotland 2009
they say that if i choose to breach the terms of the agreement by failing to make the payments, they may have no option but to continue with their debt collection activities, and register a default .
14/02/2013 from direct legal collections
We have previously written to you advising that we are the legal owners of your debt.
We have now withdrawn your account from the Debt Collection Agency who were acting on our behalf and you now need to deal with us directly.
Please contact us with your proposals to pay the outstanding balance.
Failure to respond to this letter will result in further action being taken to recover the outstanding balance.
15/03/2013 from MDB
I have been instructed by direct legal & collections an associated company of Mercantile Data Bureau Ltd, to contact you about the above unpaid debt. Your account has been transferred to me due to your continued failure to discharge your current liability. All future contact relating to your account should now be with me .
I would like to give you the opportunity to discuss your account with me before we undertake any action with your account. I will take into consideration your current financial circumstances and outline the many options available to hep resolve this matter.
I urge you to contact me today on 00000000000000 to conclude this matter as quickly possible
05/04/13 from MDB
SELLEMENT OFFER
I have identified your account as eligible for an ealry settlement figure.
If you pay £445.78 within 14 days, I will be able to write off the remaining £445.78.
Once payment has been recieved, I will arrange for the credit reference agencies tr credit file.
This is a limited offer available for 14 day.
06/04/13 from dlc
We refer to your complaint dated 19 March2013. Please find enclosed a copy of our complaints procedure for your information.
GOES TO SAY THEIR FINDINGS AND SUMMARY AND HOW MANY TIMES THEY TRIED TO CONTACT ME .
Ignore ?
4/5/13 dlc
Further to our previous correspondence regarding your complaint, the original lender has confirmed that the original executed agreement and statement are currently unavailable due to the age of the account, please find a copy of the transactions to date from our system since our acuisition.
Whilst we may not be able to enforce the agreement, the monies remain outstanding. The agreement or any monies paid has not been made illegal or void because of our failure to enforce the credit agreement but the underlying obligation to repay, remains intact.
The ruling in the case of McGuffick CV RBS clarifies the numerous interpretations of what is considered 'enforcement'. Should you want to view the Judgement in its entirety , it is easily accessible via the internet.
The demanding of payment is not considered enforcement and purely a step taken prior to the commencement of proceedings, therefore your account will remain with our collections department for collection activity to continue.
Goes on about reporting my account to the credit reference agencies.
24/05/213 dlc- i have scanned this as there is too much to type out .
31/5/2017 Argos
This letter is important and requires your careful attention.
I am writing to you about the Argos store card account you opened in 2003 .
We recently reviewed the way in which we added charges to our customers accounts. This is included looking at your an Argos Card account from the first time a fee was charged, up until 01/03/2007. We have identified that some of the fees on your account should not have been charged.
We are sorry that this happened. We are therefore refunding all fees that were applied incorrectly , plus interest.
As you may be aware , we sold your account to DLC. We have notified them of the amount we are crediting to your outstanding balance and the have adjusted this accordingly .
The total reducing the outstanding balance by £ 20.09
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