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    Hello folks, I hope you will be able to help.

    I have been helped by Joanna and Di from Joanna Connollly Solicitors with a previous legal issue (claim won )

    My husband and I have both received a Letter of Claim from Howard Cohen for a loan now assigned to Hoist Finance UK Holdings 2 Ltd.

    The loan was originally taken out with Cahoot, than Santander took over the loan part of the business sometime in 2009. Following some financial difficulties, Santander defaulted us early in 2010. We made token payments to them but stopped in 2013. So no payment has been made since the end of 2013 and we haven't had any statements since.

    I wrote to them in early 2014 asking them to write off the debt but they refused.

    Mid 2014 the loan was assigned to Hoist Portfolio Holdings 2 Ltd ('HPH2'), and administered by Robinson Way. We have never acknowledged either of them since then. However I did write to Santander early 2015 to tell them of a change of address.

    Robinson Way said they would pass things over to Howard Cohen, which they have done. Hoist Finance UK Holdings 2 Ltd ('HFUKH2L') have written only to my husband to say the debt is now assigned to them in October.

    So initially I am asking for advice on how to proceed. There is a section in the Claim Letter to ask for more information and what it would be. Is this the right thing to do or does it put us in a weaker position as we would like to contest the claim. They want an answer in the next few days or they will proceed to Court.

    The debt is just under 10000.
    I have the SAR from Santander from last December.

    All help will be very appreciated.

    Regards

    oxfordgirl

  • #2
    Originally posted by oxfordgirl View Post
    I have been helped by Joanna and Di from Joanna Connollly Solicitors with a previous legal issue (claim won )

    Hello again

    Di

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    Joanna Connolly Solicitors a firm which specialises in consumer credit. If you need to contact me you can send a message by clicking on my username or by emailing me at di@joannaconnollysolicitors.co.uk or by telephoning 0330 053 9340. Our initial advice is always free.

    Any posts I make on the AAD Consumer Forum are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as legal advice. Any advice I provide on the forum is without liability. If you are unsure please seek formal legal guidance or contact your local citizens advice bureau at https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk

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    • #3
      Hi oxfordgirl and welcome to AAD. You will hopefully find lots of help, some humour and non judgemental posters.
      I'm an official AAD Moderator and also a volunteer, here to help make the forum run smoothly. Any views or opinions are mine and not the official line of AAD. Similarly, any advice I have offered you is done so on an informal basis, without prejudice or liability. If in doubt seek advice from a qualified insured professional - Find a Solicitor or go to the National Probono Centre.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by oxfordgirl View Post
        Robinson Way said they would pass things over to Howard Cohen, which they have done. Hoist Finance UK Holdings 2 Ltd ('HFUKH2L') have written only to my husband to say the debt is now assigned to them in October.

        So initially I am asking for advice on how to proceed.

        The first thing you should do is send a s 77-79 CCA Request to Hoist. You and your husband should send separate requests in separate envelopes.

        This was a joint loan which was assigned to Hoist Portfolio Holdings 2 Ltd. ('HPH2').

        However it seems that your husband's 'debt' was subsequently assigned to Hoist Finance UK Holdings 2 Ltd ('HFUKH2L') but not your 'debt'.

        This may give them assignment issues if they do issue legal proceedings, since how can one debt be owned by two different entities since you're both jointly and severally liable for it.

        If Hoist can't or don't comply with each of your CCA Requests within the statutory time-frame then the debt becomes unenforceable until or unless they do comply. I suppose there could be a situation where Hoist comply with one and not the other (CCA Request).

        I would treat this debt/legal situation as if you and your husband were total strangers despite living under the same roof

        Di
        Legal Disclaimer

        I am a Litigation Executive at
        Joanna Connolly Solicitors a firm which specialises in consumer credit. If you need to contact me you can send a message by clicking on my username or by emailing me at di@joannaconnollysolicitors.co.uk or by telephoning 0330 053 9340. Our initial advice is always free.

        Any posts I make on the AAD Consumer Forum are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as legal advice. Any advice I provide on the forum is without liability. If you are unsure please seek formal legal guidance or contact your local citizens advice bureau at https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk

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        • #5
          I have checked through all my paperwork. I definitely did not receive an assignment letter to Hoist Finance. However the Letters of Claim we both received from Howard Cohen both say they are acting for Hoist Finance. My surname is also spelt slightly wrong.
          Shall I send the letters anyway?
          Sorry Di for the delay - health issues


          Kind regards
          oxfordgirl
          Last edited by oxfordgirl; 27th November 2018, 17:10.

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          • #6
            Hiya, I would get them off ASAP xx
            I'm an official AAD Moderator and also a volunteer, here to help make the forum run smoothly. Any views or opinions are mine and not the official line of AAD. Similarly, any advice I have offered you is done so on an informal basis, without prejudice or liability. If in doubt seek advice from a qualified insured professional - Find a Solicitor or go to the National Probono Centre.

            If you spot an abusive or libellous post then please report it by Clicking Here. If you need to contact me, for instance if I've issued you a warning, moved, edited or deleted your post, please send me a message by clicking my username.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by oxfordgirl View Post
              I have checked through all my paperwork. I definitely did not receive an assignment letter to Hoist Finance. However the Letters of Claim we both received from Howard Cohen both say they are acting for Hoist Finance. My surname is also spelt slightly wrong.
              Shall I send the letters anyway?
              Sorry Di for the delay - health issues


              Kind regards
              oxfordgirl
              "..
              The first thing you should do is send a s 77-79 CCA Request to Hoist. You and your husband should send separate requests in separate envelopes.

              This was a joint loan which was assigned to Hoist Portfolio Holdings 2 Ltd. ('HPH2').

              However it seems that your husband's 'debt' was subsequently assigned to Hoist Finance UK Holdings 2 Ltd ('HFUKH2L') but not your 'debt'.

              This may give them assignment issues if they do issue legal proceedings, since how can one debt be owned by two different entities since you're both jointly and severally liable for it.

              If Hoist can't or don't comply with each of your CCA Requests within the statutory time-frame then the debt becomes unenforceable until or unless they do comply. I suppose there could be a situation where Hoist comply with one and not the other (CCA Request).

              I would treat this debt/legal situation as if you and your husband were total strangers despite living under the same roof


              Di
              .."

              Follow Di's advice.
              Have you set off the S.77/78 requests (plus 1) if not do so immediately (Recorded Delivery) tomorrow
              THEN once they have been sent
              Send back LBC tick box D to dispute the debt stating they have not complied with your s 77-78 Request.

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              • #8
                Unfortunately both my husband and I ended up in hospital, me for a three week stay, only being discharged on Thursday. In the meantime Hoist Finance UK have sent us both separately a Court claim, issue date of 10 December.
                Does this change our course of action as we haven't had a chance to send any letters as yet. Clearly Christmas is a barrier.I will submit an acknowledgement of service separately on Monday.

                Regards
                oxfordgirl

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by oxfordgirl View Post
                  Hoist Finance UK have sent us both separately a Court claim, issue date of 10 December.
                  Does this change our course of action as we haven't had a chance to send any letters as yet. Clearly Christmas is a barrier.I will submit an acknowledgement of service separately on Monday.

                  Hello

                  Your health is the most important thing so I'm glad to see you're home for Christmas.

                  I'm sorry to learn that Hoist have issued a claim (or two).

                  Do you mean they've issued two separate claim forms with different numbers and different names for the Claimant since there was a question of who the debt was assigned to? You and Hubby have received different information in your correspondence.

                  This was a joint loan so it should be interesting.

                  If the claim(s) issue date is 10th December you have 19 days to file your Acknowledgment of Service online so to give yourself peace of mind over the holiday period I suggest you go online and tick the box which says you "intend to defend all of the claim" on the AOS section, to prevent a Default Judgment.

                  Don't enter anything in the Defence box at this stage.

                  Email me the front page of both claim forms.

                  Don't let this spoil your Christmas.

                  Di
                  Legal Disclaimer

                  I am a Litigation Executive at
                  Joanna Connolly Solicitors a firm which specialises in consumer credit. If you need to contact me you can send a message by clicking on my username or by emailing me at di@joannaconnollysolicitors.co.uk or by telephoning 0330 053 9340. Our initial advice is always free.

                  Any posts I make on the AAD Consumer Forum are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as legal advice. Any advice I provide on the forum is without liability. If you are unsure please seek formal legal guidance or contact your local citizens advice bureau at https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk

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                  • #10
                    Sorry to hear that you have received a claim, they love trying to spoil Christmas. As Di has said your health is the most important thing. Try not worry over Christmas, you are in excellent hands with Di helping you.
                    I'm an official AAD Moderator and also a volunteer, here to help make the forum run smoothly. Any views or opinions are mine and not the official line of AAD. Similarly, any advice I have offered you is done so on an informal basis, without prejudice or liability. If in doubt seek advice from a qualified insured professional - Find a Solicitor or go to the National Probono Centre.

                    If you spot an abusive or libellous post then please report it by Clicking Here. If you need to contact me, for instance if I've issued you a warning, moved, edited or deleted your post, please send me a message by clicking my username.

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                    • #11
                      Hi Di
                      Both Claim forms have the same number and both are from Hoist Finance UK despite me not getting an assignment letter from Hoist Portfolio.
                      The account was defaulted by the OC in 2011.
                      I will send you the front pages of both claim forms and file the AOS tomorrow

                      Many thanks for your help

                      Regards
                      oxfordgirl

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by oxfordgirl View Post
                        Hi Di
                        Both Claim forms have the same number and both are from Hoist Finance UK despite me not getting an assignment letter from Hoist Portfolio.

                        I will send you the front pages of both claim forms and file the AOS tomorrow

                        Many thanks for your help

                        I look forward to seeing the claim forms.

                        Jo is aware.

                        Di
                        Legal Disclaimer

                        I am a Litigation Executive at
                        Joanna Connolly Solicitors a firm which specialises in consumer credit. If you need to contact me you can send a message by clicking on my username or by emailing me at di@joannaconnollysolicitors.co.uk or by telephoning 0330 053 9340. Our initial advice is always free.

                        Any posts I make on the AAD Consumer Forum are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as legal advice. Any advice I provide on the forum is without liability. If you are unsure please seek formal legal guidance or contact your local citizens advice bureau at https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk

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