Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

Ouch. That's naughty - chances are he'd get a custodial for £400k

[PlanB]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

Why waste good money chasing bad? He's skint.

No he's not - he's got £400k in the bank which he swindled out of that poor pensioner

The man is a crook . . . and going through court in this country for stealing £400k from a pensioner...

Plan B x

[PlanB]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

you cannot give legal advice when you do not understand the schematics of the industry .

I don't give advice I share wisdom as per my signature

The OP asked (in the thread title) if she should use a Statutory Demand, Debt Collection Agency or a LBA as a tool to recover money owed to her.

I treated it as a multiple choice question so selected LBA as my answer.

Plan B x

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

Point taken

Don't be like that - but we don't. CAG tried getting thousands of people suing banks for reclaiming - look at the trouble that caused. I am vehemently against the legal system and only resort to it as a last resort - too many people I care about (you included) have been shafted by idiots abusing the system and thus no matter whether we are right or wrong it really needs to be a last resort (as you know with the hassles we had a year or so ago - only when libel and hatred started did I instruct top solicitors to issue claims...)

I know you love a good fight but the counter-productive element with this would be patch issuing a claim.

[PlanB]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

court action isn't what we do - certainly not through my portal which is AAD.

Point taken

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

Based on that new information it may be wise to Google prospective clients before you accept their business in future

Or ask for 50% up front and rest at completion before giving any access. Works for us - in fact it's great (for us) cos then you kinda get paid twice in the space of a couple of weeks

[PlanB]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

I did some digging about..... The man is a crook, he's wanted in another country for fraud and going through court in this country for stealing £400k from a pensioner... ffs how did we get hooked up with him! The things you find on google!!
He wont pay.

Based on that new information it may be wise to Google prospective clients before you accept their business in future

# hindsight

Plan B x

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

Would you be out of pocket if the website stays up (albeit you say it's currently suspended) so he can earn the money to pay you what he owes you assuming he's an e-tailer?

Don't be confused, the whole object of a forum is to get a variety of views

Plan B x

The suspension is likely the hosting company suspending the domain for non payment - we are hosts, is Patch? I don't know.

However you cannot give legal advice when you do not understand the schematics of the industry - this is nothing to do with debt, it is specific to IT and the contracts we use, if ever, are tailored towards suspension - legal action is rarely (if ever) used. We hold rights via suspension options - we don't issue claims.

The moment you sue a non payer you'll get no future business - 100% of my work comes from referrals - my site has earned thousands of views but no direct business.

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

Closing down someone's website could be counterproductive if the site generates the customer's income.

If they can't pay not won't pay, putting them out of business will not get the OP her money even if it gives some momentary satisfaction.

A LBA to prompt serious discussion over recovering a £1,000 debt is not necessarily bonkers especially as a grand may be a lot of money to the OP who is in debt and has children to feed. Hopefully it will result in payment if only by agreed instalments without the need to go to court.

Plan B x

Totally disagree sorry. Its a unique industry and court action isn't what we do - certainly not through my portal which is AAD.

[PlanB]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

Now I'm confused . . .

Suspending websites is the norm in this industry though.... He pays for a service, dont pay, no service..

Would you be out of pocket if the website stays up (albeit you say it's currently suspended) so he can earn the money to pay you what he owes you assuming he's an e-tailer?

Don't be confused, the whole object of a forum is to get a variety of views



Plan B x

[Never-In-Doubt]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

It's a LOT of money for us, but you're right, I doubt he will pay anyway, he hasn't paid the rent on his shop for months either.. I'll write it off.. His site has been closed for weeks with a suspended due to non payment holder up.

Sadly that seems wise. That's the best approach & I know it's a lot but you learn from it.

Why waste good money chasing bad? He's skint.

We we always get 50% up front and rest at completion before admin password or cPanel access is given. We also hold rights on the domain via nominet.

[patchouli]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

I did some digging about..... The man is a crook, he's wanted in another country for fraud and going through court in this country for stealing £400k from a pensioner... ffs how did we get hooked up with him! The things you find on google!!
He wont pay, I need to convince hubby to forget about him.

[PlanB]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

It's a LOT of money for us, but you're right, I doubt he will pay anyway, he hasn't paid the rent on his shop for months either.. I'll write it off.. His site has been closed for weeks with a suspended due to non payment holder up.

Our posts crossed. A thousand pounds is a lot of money to me too.

I was explaining your options not goading you into taking court action.

You've no need to write it off, but you may need to wait a long time for it if his business is doing badly. I assume the debt won't become SB for six years so you've plenty of time to decide your next move


Plan B x

[patchouli]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

oh gawd, now I'm confused... lol

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Suspending websites is the norm in this industry though.... He pays for a service, dont pay, no service... same as any other really.

[PlanB]

Re: Statutory demand, DCA or LBA?

Closing down someone's website could be counterproductive if the site generates the customer's income.

If they can't pay not won't pay, putting them out of business will not get the OP her money even if it gives some momentary satisfaction.

A LBA to prompt serious discussion over recovering a £1,000 debt is not necessarily bonkers especially as a grand may be a lot of money to the OP who is in debt and has children to feed. Hopefully it will result in payment if only by agreed instalments without the need to go to court.

Plan B x