New member needing advice please!!

[SA Gold]

Re: New member needing advice please!!

guys, the system was designed to put people in debt, end of. No point trying to work out why or how it happened. We all live in a fiat currency system, which can only work if there is a debt owed by someone to someone else. Its that simple.

So true.

Max - Just picked up on this thread mate. I can only echo what others have already said: I know it feels like a big step, but as soon as you stop paying these lot you can then re-gain control. When i discovered the forum i spent about two solid days reading up on the sticky threads and diaries and went for it. I can honestly say the day of cancelling CCCS was the start of the end of this crap.

Stopping payment will set alarm bells off and you will get letters and calls but its a bit like a bottle of pop; fizzing everywhere and then suddenly stops. You will soon realise a lot of them are nothing more than scare tactics.

Best of luck with it and i'll keep my fingers crossed that you and the Mrs make December your last payment.

Cheers
SA

[SXGuy]

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guys, the system was designed to put people in debt, end of. No point trying to work out why or how it happened. We all live in a fiat currency system, which can only work if there is a debt owed by someone to someone else. Its that simple.

The only way the system can no longer function is to remove yourself from it. And that's what we all do here. We do not let it work, because we refuse to play their game. We play our own.

[MrsD]

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been there and done it, so I know that is how it is because we've been there.

Being in debt is not a capital crime, shit happens to everyone, that's what life is all about. The system is horrendous for debt, and mostly you don't know anything about it until it happens to you. It's a bit like the matrix when the guy discovers that his ordinary life doesn't actually exist!

We are here, we're not going anywhere and we will support and help all we can, the evidence that this forum does that is all around these pages.

[odetter]

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Mrs D at the risk of mutual back slapping that is a brilliant summation of pay grab!!!

[odetter]

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Sadly the people who rave on about how wonderful Pay grab are haven't bothered to research their organization.
It's been established by the financial industry to maintain the financial industry.
End of.
Blimey I sound like a commie! Ha ha!

[odetter]

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Thanks Odetter,
I will see if I can get my wife to agree with coming out of Payplan after x-mas as advised by Never in Doubt and go from there. I am reading loads of information from here and re-educating myself. I thought Payplan was impartial!!!

When you're in big doo doo it's important that people get professional debt advice.
However although DMPs offer a short-term comfort blanket for vulnerable people with debt they don't necessarily explain the long term implications.
There is a bigger world of debt solutions, I'm quite depressed reading other forums about people's self flagellatory debt "journey".
FFS let's stop beating ourselves up about it and get on and sort it out.

[cymruambyth]

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The first few months will be hard but by following the AAD way for dealing with debt you will gain confidence; as strange as it may sound you eventually wonder what you have done wrong when they leave you alone!

Ask any questions, no doubt someone will have asked them before! The aim is not to make people feel stupid but to empower.

Good luck, you will know you are winning when you start to have fun posting on some of the more frivolous chat threads

[Max]

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Thanks Pixie and Mrs D. You are so right about Payplan and the court and their insurance which we have been paying for 5 years plus.
I have talked most of the weekend with my wife about the advice you have all given me and we are definitely coming out of the DMP in January once x-mas is out of the way. I have been starting to read the UE stories and they are inspiring. By the new year I hopefully will be able to stand up and fight back at long last.
Thanks to you all!!!

[MrsD]

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Max

it is stressful but the whole point of UE is NOT to end up in court. We try very hard here not to let that happen. We were on a DMP as well, they didn't stop interest and kept up the ridiculous phonecalls. At our first 6 month review they wanted to put the money up by cutting our budget to the bone, the woman I spoke to was dismissive and patronising. At that point I did research, discovered Niddy and packed in the DMP, that was 3.5 years ago, turned out most of our huge pile was UE, you just need to stand up for yourself. I bet when you ended up in court Payplan told you to admit the debt and ask for time to pay? They are like Stepchange backed by the banks, it's in their interest to keep you paying to their masters the banks and of course paying into their little insurances, making more money for the financial industry. You know that they've told you lies about your proceeds, don't let them take the piss any longer. Have a good read around the diaries, some great and very long stories there.

xxx

[Pixie]

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If it looks like you might get a court claim we'll help you to negotiate a F&F settlement or put you in touch with our preferred solicitor. Save the £350 you've been paying PayPlan just in case you need to do that.

There are lots of members on here who've been going down the UE route for 3+ years with no sign of a court claim.

[Max]

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Thanks SXGuy,
Yes your words are helpful as I often feel this is only happening to me but of course its not. The advice from this site is fantastic.
At the moment me and my wife can't agree on what to do next. As we went to court on three occasions when charging orders were put on by nationiwide and MBNA the memory of this is still strong(it was bloody awful feeling like a criminal) and my wife is worried we will back in court again next year if we go down the UE road.
I will read through as much of the helpful threads and sections as I can and in the new year will decide what I will do and let my wife decide what she would like to do with her debts if we can't agree.

[SXGuy]

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If its any help, im sure we have all been there, with the stress and worry. Im on here for my mothers debts, there not actually mine, but even i at the start dredded her letterbox going. Every letter was like a heart thump wondering what it may say.

Truth is, spend some time here and you realise, they are not personally written to you, they are standard letters sent to everyone. The messages are all the same. What you also realise is, half of them are empty threats. Not saying you shouldnt take them seriously, but alot of us on here will have at some point had the same letters, dealt with the same people and can advise how to proceed.

You will soon see, the worry and stress will disapear, and you will start to actually feel ok about the post man arriving.

[Enforcer]

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I agree with your comments, anxiety, worry, fear, depression. Add in sleepless nights, afraid to answer your own phone, high blood pressure and many more.
Started off thinking that I was £32,000 in debt. Now realise that I only truly owe around £2,000.
What a relief! Wow.

[Max]

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Thanks Pixie,
Never in doubt or Niddy's advice and threads have been very helpful as well as everybody's advice on here. I am glad I posted a request for help as I have slept better this weekend than in a long time. I am still worried but it has reduced.
Pixie I will see if my wife will take a look at the UE diaries as I would like to do it together with her rather than separately.
Many Thanks to everybody's advice. You really do help people and I am sure you save lives as debt causes so much anxiety, worry, fear and depression!!

[Max]

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Thanks Odetter,
I will see if I can get my wife to agree with coming out of Payplan after x-mas as advised by Never in Doubt and go from there. I am reading loads of information from here and re-educating myself. I thought Payplan was impartial!!!